I've been playing Dragon Age: Origins and loving it, but I have a deep, dark secret... I kind of miss my chainmail bikini! Yeah... chainmail bikinis... those scanty, sexy outfits we female characters get to wear in most western RPG's that are at all fantasy based.
I have to admit that I have a love/hate relationship with my chainmail bikini. There's something very liberating about prancing through the countryside slaying various beasts and critters while attired as a Dominatrix, but on a larger level it bothers me a bit. Mostly it's an immersion issue. Being an "actual, real-live female" I KNOW that there is no way you can run through the forests wearing 3" heels. I've worn high heels most of my adult life... I can walk fast in high heels, I can even run to catch a bus in high heels on a sidewalk - but there is no possible way in hell that I can run through the forests or across a bumpy meadow, battling bad guys or nasty critters while wearing 3" spikey heels without breaking an ankle. It's simply not possible! Reality also intercedes with the whole "boob" thing. Any woman with a C cup or more knows that it's painful to run braless. You have to strap those puppies down... pushing them up just creates the potential for two black eyes. I always shudder when I see Lara and her massive mammaries "shimmy" along a wall and all I can think of is OUCH! It's rather the equivalent of a guy seeing another guy getting kicked in the balls. Weather also plays an immersion role. I can't help but be taken completely out of a game when I see my scantily clad siren skipping through a white winter wonderland in practically no clothing. Brrrrrr!!
Chainmail bikinis and the accompanying virtual gals that tend to wear them also promote a body image almost impossible for most real-life women to attain. Double D cups rarely accompany a 24" waistline unless silicon or suction is involved somewhere. The proportions of these nubile young lasses continue to promote our North American obsession with plastic surgery, unhealthy diets and eating disorders. While sex sells, and games are still full of scantily clad, hormonally enhanced female and male body shapes (particularly in fighting games), I do think that things are gradually, slowly changing and devs can help play a role by promoting something just as sexy but a little more natural and realistic in terms of proportions. Please devs, no more double D cup boobs unless they are accompanied by the reality of a padded waistline that holds them up, or they sag down to sway and play peek-a-boo bellybutton. Attire can still be sexy, but please make it appropriate to the game's environment and character's actions. I think it's quite possible to design sexy attire that is still practical.
That being said, I was pleased that my Dragon Age warrior woman got a sensible suit of armour and a realistic figure... but after awhile I find I am growing bored with my outfit. While it helps with immersion and when out slaying bad guys I like what I'm wearing... there are times when I want to slip into Morrigan's outfit and be a little more feminine and sexy (unfortunately I can't steal her outfit... I tried!). I guess that while it's nice to feel that sense of power and immersion by being dressed for the occasion appropriately, in a body that could be a real life female... there are still times when wearing a chainmail bikini is kind of fun.
Eh... I guess there's just no pleasing a woman! When I get stuck with chainmail I want practicality... when I get practical boring attire, I want a bit of sexy. I guess the solution is what some games seem to currently be doing... offering us a wardrobe of options!
....Now if only devs could design decent shoes!
And I am completely in support of that, provided it doesn't detract from the game into a blatant fapothon for most.
Also, damn you for making me need to boot up DA:O! This essay isn't going to finish itself!
Couple that with progressivly disappointing plunges for the vests available, and you've got me layering a tuxedo shirt to squeeze some decent style out of my gear!
In short: chainmail bikini = yes, please.
Well, maybe not that bad.
I do have to admit though, she looks pretty damn epic when she wears heavy armor as an Arcane Warrior. Talk about an awkward bonar.
I'm sure there are mods out there that can relieve you of your dillema.
Oh yes.
Now I'm no expert on bras, but that looks unbelievably painful. But at the same time, sexy.
Amen. Men know it, women know it, children know it, dogs know it.
@Tubatic... yeah, I do like the chainmail/animal hide type stuff... as long as they keep the body proportions on the reality side! (and with maybe a touch of fur if it's a snow environment!)
@BulletMagnet... yeah, we often want what we can't have! (and any gal that thinks she can unilaterally "change" a man is doomed to disappointment). I do think that for myself, I like the sexy outfits, but want slightly more reasonable proportions on the character - and options! Different outfits for different occasions - just like real life.
@Anonymouse and Occams... Yup, definitely painful! (and cold!!)... but then again, 3 inch spikey heels are exactly the most comfortable thing to wear either... I guess we women must suffer to look good. :(
@MkShiranui... yeah, the spellcasters get the best outfits! Unfortunately I tend to enjoy being a tank or skirmish character. You're quite right that the outfits haven't changed a lot in fantasy games over the years... they all kind of lean towards Xena, catsuits, etc.
Actually... fashion in real life is a massively huge industry. I wonder if eventually we could see some smart fashion designer start designing exclusively for the virtual world (don't some people already do this in Second Life and some virtual worlds?) It would be interesting to see a well known designer arise... as well known as Gucci or Halston in the real world.
@Xzyliac... at least I admit it! :)
Not that I am complaining :P
@Naim, haven't come across the Dalish armour yet... so maybe there is still hope that I'll find an outfit I like!
@Crocbox... LOL! Yeah, I always thought it was very silly too... and as a woman I can't help feeling that those outfits objectify women and send the wrong message... so I'm a bit surprised that I actually miss it!! I suspect that I'm just rationalizing when I say that I want more realistic body shapes... but those sleazy outfits.
@Buji... go away.
@Zeta... again, I think there is a real duality about how women feel about chainmail bikini type outfits in games.
@Pixel... damn ME for being a 360 exclusive!!
@Krazy... LOL! I never even thought of the inference! Yeah, I guess some women do seek web attention by actually posting pics of themselves in those outfits... but I'll settle for the virtual world! (besides, I'm 47... for many on this site it would be like seeing their Mom in sexy negligee... there's just something inherently "wrong" with that! LOL!)
It's only logical.
@Gyrael... yeah, the game really is GREAT!
LOL Crocbox! Yeah, this is better!
@RAB... fighting topless for a gal is like a guy fighting bottomless... do guys really want their manhood bouncing around and possibly exposed to sharp knives??
@grafkhun... exactly!! It's a tough thing to do... and probably more important to women than it is to men (judging by the amounts the average male/female spends on clothes in real life).
@tim... and ironically they so rarely happen! (again, that immersion issue). :)
I've tried rationalising the lack of female armour (and *ahem* clothing) in video gaming as follows: Female characters rarely have tank builds, and as a result, they rely primarily on speed to defeat stronger, slower foes; speed requires unencumbered movement. It's always better to not get hit than to merely soak up damage, especially when a lot of video game bad guys can kill in only a few hits (cheap!). Well, that's my rationale for half-nekkid female warriors.
I only know of two games featuring fairly realistic female character models - Monster Hunter and Demon's Souls - and with those two games, more armour and clothing is definitely better.
Also, I can only imagine a woman's hatred of metal's tendency for expansion in contraction when it involves traveling the world in a chain-link bra.
Also, also, nipple-chafe. Have fun with that ahaha!!
@Everyone talking about pinchy chainmail: Males are similarly vulnerable to this (and plate codpieces? damn cold). That's why you never wear just chainmail. You want some wool or leather or something to go under that shit. And with the proper cut, the garment on display a la Anonymouse doesn't lose much in the sexy factor, either.
:D
Ivy is one of the worst offenders. I'm also calling out Bayonetta, who is built on a number of sexual cliches.
One of the best examples of practical womens-wear in a game is Jade from Beyond Good & Evil. Jeans and a jacket for adventuring, what an avant-garde idea! (Faith from Mirror's Edge also features a believable outfit.
@ ikiryou: Female characters are often speedy and agile because women are stereotyped as lithe and graceful. While I won't argue the physical differences between men and women, particularly in terms of athletics, this sort of thinking is what leads to the chainmail bikini. But perhaps the problem here is the double standard: agile male characters usually have believable outfits. How come Ninja Gaiden's Ryu wears an unaccepted ninja getup, while Soul Calibur's Taki has breasts that are practically exploding from under her shirt?
I'm getting off point here. Sex sells. Although I seriously doubt reducing the cup size on many female characters to a believable size would impact sales. But hey, I don't have a marketing degree, so what do I know.
It's nice seeing both sides of a female's perspective; you don't HATE the bikini armor yet you don't LOVE it either.
I do hate you though for bringing up DA:O. I started playing a friend's copy, but he took it back and I don't get the game 'till Christmas :(
My city elf, Revan, calls to me . . .
I laughed at the last sentence, hahaha. =)
May Twilight Princess grant your desires.
@Charlie... yeah, Zev is a fun character!
LOL ikiryou!! Yeah, the whole speed, light clothing thing is what they use as a rationale... but I do prefer a tank build if it's available.
@Palidi... good point! (yeah, sci fi rules!)
@Celica... "nipple-chafe" you said my exact thoughts when I saw the pic of the chainmail bra! LOL!
@Pangloss... yeah, I guess opponent distraction is a minor advantage... and those outfits would have to be lined!
@Krahsh... I think a lot of women are torn on this issue. We know we "shouldn't" like chainmail bikinis - but we do anyway.
LOL Technophile... so you're just a little pig? :)
@Khazar - you make a good point about Ryu's outfit... which is where I think the sexy and practical thing comes in... a female ninja suit doesn't have to be done a la Heavenly Sword, but can be tight and formfitting... even showing some cleavage - without looking like it would fall off if she sneezed. (actually, the design of Bayonetta's suit is nice.. it's just the high heels and proportions that could use some tweaking).
@Kwazy... get back to playing DA:O! :)
@Ali... yeah, I agree with your wife. Ivy is so "overdone" that it's almost laughable!
@Cadtalfryn... that's PERFECT! LOL! Yeah, that's what Double D's usually look like in real life!
Hey SilverDragon! Yeah, even her undies are ugly. It would have been nice if they had at least given them some sexy undies so I could at least run around the camp site feeling "pretty"!
But I do think it's possible to balance practicality and sexiness. I mean, if we stay in the idea that "Women are naturally physically weaker/more agile than men so we want to take advantage of it", when you look at most bare-handed non-Asian martial art, men and women tend to wear the least amount of clothes possible to have freer movement. Women usually wear some sort of tank top on top of a sport bra (or so I assume, I never checked personally), and usually some type of tight short (Or pants, but not as sexy, and that's part of the subject here). So from here, I think it's not THAT hard to make something that looks (or rather IS) sexy AND pratical.
@Khazar: Actually, Taki is not that bad... In fact, her whole look would be believable if she was wearing a sarashi below her suit.
X-blades, Heavenly Sword...If DoA: Beach Volleyball was based in the yee old times and had the girls in full costumes the game would have been dead before it was even released.
Personally I like options. You should ideally have some choices so that you can make your character look how you want them to be percieved.. maybe she likes looking sexy, maybe she tries to look as un-femine as possible. And if i want to drag queen up my male toons, I should be able to!
Could it be that we will always desire that which we do not have?
Or maybe, It's just fun to be running around with an almost naked armor and still fight like if we were wearing a complete equipment...Not only guys deserve the fun of watching a women run in a sexy way with high heels!!