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meh... I think I'll just keep changing my sidebar until I find something I'm happy with.

slightly relevant stuff... I'm old (49), I'm female, I'm happily married.

more relevant stuff... I like online FPS games, I like to play online with other Dtoid members. I'm primarily a PS3 gamer but you can occasionally find me on Xbox (though I don't currently have gold, but expect to get it again around Christmas).


PSN: Elsa
XBL: Elssa62
Playstation Gamer Advisory Panel Member (GAP)

Currently Playing:
PS3:
Two Worlds 2
Uncharted 2 and 3
MAG (mostly Raven, though I have a SVER alt)
... and occasionally Warhawk, UT3, Resistance 2 co-op or Killzone 2!

Xbox:
Halo Reach.
Left 4 Dead 2
Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga


Recent Favorites:
WARHAWK!!
UT3
Portal 1&2
Sacred 2
Bioshock series
Oblivion
Fallout series
Dragon Age: Origins
Resistance series
Killzone 2
Left 4 Dead 2

Can't wait for:
STARHAWK!!!
Skyrim!





Some blogs I wrote that I like:
Girls with Guns
Guess the Gender
A Girl's Guide to FPS Gaming
Me and My Chainmail Bikini...
Adopt a Troll!
Fanboy Wars - the game!

Promoted C-Blogs:
Undies and a Knife
He dumped me! That Bastard!
Love/Hate: Being a Girl Gamer
The Future: The Year is 2029
My Expertise: Leader of Men
The Great Escape: From Physical Pain
More than Just Noise: Boom Headshot!
2010 Sucked: Game Addiction Issues
Technical Difficulties: He teabagged me!

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A Girl's Guide to Online FPS Gaming.
Elsa | 12:10 PM on 06.28.2009 42 comments




After playing Killzone and Warhawk a fair bit so far this weekend... this survival guide came to mind...

To the ladies out there thinking of trying FPS games online for the first time..., first of all, it's important to realize that you are entering what is the virtual equivalent of a sports bar - a place heavy in male testosterone, competitiveness, swearing and a "mine is bigger than yours" attitude. The anonymity of the internet seems to be the rough equivalent to a six pack of beer, so you'll also have to be prepared for the "dumb things guys say when they're drunk" type of verbal warfare. It's important to remember that you can't win this type of war because everything they say is witty and hilarious ...to them.

A dozen things to know (in no particular order):

1) Bitch.
When I heard this word, I assumed they were referring to me as I was often the only female in the game... but no, this word is not (necessarily) referring to females. Apparently guys call each other this, and it's sign of love and respect.

2) Teabagging.
Don't take this lying down. Feel free to make make "ken doll" comments, or ask for a magnifying glass, or ask if it's cold, or if their balls have dropped yet, or if they're married to Lorena Bobbitt, etc, etc. Other guys in your squad will likely snicker, though the object of your taunts may target you. Again, remember that guys do this to other guys too... they're not doing it just because you're a girl (same goes for corpse humping if you're in a game where the avatar can go prone).

3) Pick-ups.
Again, this is nothing personal. Remember that these are like drunk guys in a bar. Boy sees girl. Boy says lame line like "are you hot?". Asking a girl if she's hot is apparently the male equivalent of "hi, how're you doing". They will ask this question of gray haired grannies and 13 year old tweens. It's a guy thing. The appropriate response is always "yes I'm hot... now could you go make me a sandwich because I'm busy playing the game here".

4) Mysogynists.
There will often be one of those guys that just hates women. The one that teamkills you while yelling "girls don't game". Just remember that these are almost always young boys with mommy issues. You're not a psychiatrist and can't cure them... so just avoid them and don't give them the attention they seem so desperately to be seeking.

5) Giggling.
I don't care if you're male or female, don't giggle. It's annoying.

6) "Useless females".
Please don't come into a game and start asking the big strong guys how to play. Play the campaign mode, play offline with bots or create a one person game and learn. Guys don't ask how to play (I think it's probably the male equivalent of asking for directions or looking at a map or something). If you need clarification or a tip on how somebody did something, fine... but don't be giggling, and screaming "oh you killed me, you bad, bad boy!". Appropriate responses to getting killed are to say "crap", "lagswitcher", "n00b tube" (when killed by an RPG), "this game sucks" or if you're feeling particularly soft and feminine even "good kill" (if it was one).

7) Mute buttons.
Games have them, know how to use them. Generally when you mute someone, they can still hear you, but you can't hear them... so it's entirely appropriate to say "I had to mute XXXX - what an asshole!". He'll hear you... and know that whatever he says, you can't hear him... and it's a justifiable form of torture.

8) "Are you a girl?".
You'll often hear this question and the appropriate response is to say "yes" then move on. It's good for guys to know that girls actually do game. If you want to play with their heads a little you could alternatively say "No, I'm a big hairy guy living in a trailer park... and I want you... I want you bad!" This usually confuses them and often shuts them up... so you can continue gaming in peace.

9) Do not use the PSN voice changer.
Yes, I'm well aware that by playing with the voice changer I can instantly grow a pair of balls and actually sound like that hairy creepy guy living in a trailer park with a stash of girly mags under the bed... or I can sound like Marvin the Martian. But either way, nobody is going to take you seriously when you're yelling "I have the flag and need air cover!!".

10) You do not need to be a Frag Doll.
Just because you're female does not mean you have anything to "prove". You're allowed to be an average gamer that plays lots of different games. If you want to get really good at one game, that's fine too... but you don't need to be "representin tha ladies"... any female who games and doesn't hide her gender does that.

11) You will learn new words.
Unless you worked in bars (which I did) or worked in the construction industry (which I also did), or watch a lot of South Park and Family Guy... you will be exposed to a tapestry of foul language that you might not have heard before. Just regard it as "educational". I actually had to look up "MILF" when I got called one... and the word "fap" - which I've seen several times here on this very lovely and PG rated gaming site. I'm 47, but have edumacated myself regarding current trends in linguistics. Yep... educational.

12) Assholes!
Above all, it's important to realize that there are assholes online, just as there are assholes in real life... but these assholes don't just harass females, they will harass pretty much everybody or anybody. They are indiscrimate assholes, so don't take it personally. They are also a minority. The vast majority of the time you'll be able to play and just enjoy the game.


So for any ladies considering trying out FPS online gaming... give it a try! Overall it's an incredible experience and while you may run into many of these situations, you'll handle them (though maybe not in the ways I've suggested! LOL!). Online shooter games are fun... there is a sense of being on a team that is not often found in other genres. There is a camaraderie of being on a squad or team and working together to achieve objectives. Don't be afraid to use a mic to talk... that's where the real sense of team play evolves. The ability to yell for aircover when you're running with the flag and see a plane swoop in to take out the plane MG'ing your butt... to hear someone yelling "take the high road, they got tanks on the low road" and to do a fast 360 in your jeep and safely make it to homebase with the flag to the cries of "nice!" or "well done!" from your teammates - that's what makes this type of game different.

Me... I probably talk too much in open mic games and have a bad habit of doing a running commentary on what our team should be doing or where the enemy is... or saying "crap" when I get killed - but guys know where the mute button is too, and when I hear "I had to mute Elsa... what an asshole... she never shuts up" - well... it's then that I know I'm just another gamer ... and that's kind of nice!
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Tavendale's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:20
Tavendale
But are you hot?
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:25
Elsa
Yes, I am... now go make me a sandwich...I'm busy blogging here!
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:30
Y0j1mb0
Elsa shotgunned me in the face in Killzone 2. That's when I realized that she can operate a PS3 controller. :D

Good read and good times on K2 in our last PS3 FNF. We all had a blast.
Tavendale's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:35
Tavendale
During Burning Crusade in WoW, I was in a guild that raided with, I'd say, more female players than the average guild. We didn't however, have the numbers and often had to fill one or two slots with whoever we could find.

Oh. My. God. Some of these people! We stopped inviting them to Vet after a while because the arassment, whether sexual or abusive, was a constant theme.

One individual,I recall, described his 'rape fantasy' in excruciating duty to one of our priests. Needless to say he was quickly replaced.

Such anecdotes, though funny at first glance, fully explain why a lot of female players do not use voice chat in games or otherwise reveal their gender.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:43
Elsa
@Y0jimb0... yeah, I only caught the one game, it's too bad about the time zone differences, it seems like a really great group of people that were playing! :)

@Tavendale... and that's why it's important for females to realize that it's not personal. Some gamers (not always guys) are just idiots. It's unfortunate that it only takes one asshole to ruin the game... but the key is to be persistent, find a good group of people to game with - and that while this type of thing happens, you just have to grow a thick skin and develop a sense of humour about it.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:00
Tubatic
"2) Teabagging.
Don't take this lying down."

Elsa. You rock. You're one of my favorite D-Toiders.
Blackhat's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:16
Blackhat
I don't want to start a war or anything here, but going from, say Halo, SOCOM, Killzone, etc, to an FPS on steam is night and day in terms of male/female interaction.

One girl went to a TF2 server i was on, and did the giggle/I'm a girll1111!1!111!/oh my god i liek totally died! thing. She was completely and utterly ignored. Nobody cared that she was a girl, and she was muted by an admin pretty much straight away.

I think a key thing for any gamer, really, is to find a group that is fun to play with, and do that. My first microsoft Live experience was Vegas 2, and I was inundated with swearing twelve year olds, screaming that I was 'cheating' because I sniped the same guy three times in a row. Later, I was kicked from a server for not dying, because I managed to grenade someone over and over.

Later, I was in a SOCOM game with two, count em, two 8 year old kids. It was the most sad thing I've ever witnessed, as the things they said, and the fact they actually told the whole server their age and names showed a distinct lack of parental supervision, or hell, caring.

So anyway, yes, it can be tough for women to break into any genre, but FPS gaming is often the most unforgiving. This list is a good start, but I'd simply add that you find a server/group that shows a maturity level that you enjoy, and play there/with them.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:18
Blasto
Damn Elsa, you're becoming my favorite blogger already. You're ability to combine humor with substance and you're unique gaming perspective is just great and really enjoyable to read. You keep this up and I think Niero should offer you a job, fo reals.

I know I sound like a kiss-ass but, I truly mean it, and it has nothing to do with your alleged bewbs, you rock . Go smack your hubby and remind him how lucky he is :)

BTW, can anyone join the FNF Killzone 2 warm-ups if they're not in one of the clans? I'd like to see your 1337 skills in action.
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:28
DF
I really think you'd like one of my friends. A female, a FPS gamer too (PC version, however). She apparently found her current boyfriend through Counterstrike Source...

You could call her girly, and she'd probably tear out your throat with her teeth. It's like pink is scared of her or something. XD
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:36
Chris Carter
I wish I had Killzone 2
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:46
CelicaCrazed
LOL I didn't realize Cooking Mama was an FPS now j/k :P

Another good blog. I welcome more women into online shooters. Considering that they would more likely work as a team than most guys, they are greatly needed haha. I can't attack and defend zones on my own *sigh*
HydeGFF's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:51
HydeGFF
I have never been too keen of the FPS online communities. I am definitely supportive of female gamers although there seems to be many barriers. Good entry.
BrickRoadDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 14:04
BrickRoadDX
Nice blog, full of wit and clever dissection of the nuance of online gaming. In other words, i LOL'D
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 14:06
Elsa
@Blackhat... yeah, I do fully agree that gaming with a group (like the Dtoiders here) is the best way to start out... though at one point most any gamer will expand beyond the group's weekly games and try gaming on their own. It's then that they'll come across the problems. As you've noted (getting kicked because you're good), guys have their problems too in online FPS gaming - but overall the rewards outweigh the problems!

@Blasto... yeah, anyone who knows the password can join in on the pre-game warm up (though for the later game you have to be in one of the clans). With the time difference I don't know how often I would be able to join in. My skills are pretty average... not average "for a girl"... just average for anyone who plays the game. (and thanks for the compliment that you enjoy my blogs... I do really love to write!)

@Doomsday... LOL!

Magnalon... Killzone 2 is a fun game... but I don't think it will have the staying power of something like Warhawk.

Hey Celica! Yeah, I think once women get into these types of games, they can really enjoy the sense of working as part of a team!

@Hydegff... I haven't played on Xbox live (but I hear the horror stories), but PSN is pretty good. Many of the gaming communities are really friendly (particularly UT3 and other shooter games like Warhawk). While some of the communities are a little higher in the "asshat %", if you find a good group of people to play with, most of the problems can be averted.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 14:38
PhazonYoshi
A female gamer telling people NOT to bring attention to it?

Well, carry on. Nice blog :) (wanna meet up & r u hot?)
Kris S's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 14:59
Kris S
What Blasto and Tubatic said, love your blogs.
Caffeine Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 15:26
Caffeine Knight
Destructoid is PG? Read Jim's latest articles on Video Characters he would sex.
norm9's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 15:31
norm9
What are women?
Zippyduda's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 16:59
Zippyduda
Good blog :) I agree with all your points to be honest. So far on Killzone I haven't actually talked to or played any assholes (except extreme supreme campers who sit in corners the whole match waiting for you to go past). I've also found the whole of the PS3 Dtoid players (and I'm sure the Xbox crowd as well) are really nice people, all have a laugh and nobody is an arseholes.

Keep up the good work :) And what Blasto said. By the way I sent you a PM.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 18:14
Daxelman
You forgot the essential "Don't Fuck With Vince Offer."


Also, people have time to Teabag in Killzone 2?

I thought we were all to busy suicide 'nading ourselves.

Who do you people play with? I need to document this for science.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 18:28
EternalDeathSlayer
I came in expecting the usual "girl-gamer" attitude, which is when girls act macho for some odd reason. That usually gets the guys around here excited.

But anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by this. A bit unnecessary, but a good read. It's all true.

We're assholes.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 18:59
Usedtabe
@Elsa: My wife would rape you in Gears.

Wait...what?
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 20:20
Naim Master
As much as there is idiot gamers there are idiot gamer girls , I only saw one non-annoying gamer girl , in TF2 ; all the rest (that I've met) are attention whores , nice to see that there are two decent gamer girls in the world ...
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 20:32
Daxelman
@Naim: Really? I meat plenty on TF2....of course, they're all British....wonder if that has anything to do with it...
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 20:42
Elsa
@Brainderailment... LOL! :)

Thanks Kris!

@CaffeineKnight... LOL... yeah, that PG comment was definitely sarcasm!

@Zippy... I'll check messages tomorrow (and KZ isn't bad... but it does have it's percentage of asshats)...yeah, the Dtoid crew I saw in that one game seemed really nice!

@Daxelman... Yeah, lots of people tbag in KZ ... depends on the crowd in the various games. I usually play with GAP (Playstation's Gamer Advisory Panel) and I actually run a GAP Warhawk clan (which is full) and a GAP Killzone 2 clan (which has about 45 of us). We usually don't play competitively (though we did participate in the big Warhawk tourney) and we play once a week (Warhawk on Thursdays, KZ on Sundays). I like KZ and usually play more than just once a week... so I tend to just jump into a lot of random games (as I did on Friday after the Dtoid clan warm up)

In all seriousness... as Naim says, there are idiots out there (both male and female) and while I wrote this blog with humour in mind, I think it's also good for females to realize that much of the behaviour in NOT aimed specifically at them being female gamers... it's just, well, general idiocy.

@Naim, you've likely played with many female gamers and never knew they were female. Lots of females use androgynous names and don't talk. Personally I think this is a shame because in a team based game, talking can really make the game much more interesting and fun.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 20:56
Daxelman
@Elsa: Personally, I don't meet very many girl gamers, outside of the Arcade and Team Fortress 2, so my general knowledge of behavior of this kind is very shallow, since I manage to get along with the Arcade goer pretty well, and on TF2, everyone's just pretty loose about everything. (Mostly because the 2fort2furious servers house the infamous Team Roomba.)

I do have experience of general idiocy from just regular online play, weather it be Xbox Live or PSN or Steam (Or WoW), but nothing with specific gender. I think I managed fly over that land completely and crash in religious beliefs.

Lucky me. =P
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 22:43
DF
@Elsa: But you shouldn't be surprised so many women gamers simply don't say anything and draw attention to themselves. After all, haven't you mentioned yourself that guys tend to hit on you or other females or act differently towards you once they know your gender? It's no wonder they're silent and use neutral names.

Maybe the quiet women are the smart ones. They're STFUAJPGing, which is what we all need to be doing anymore. =P
Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 00:26
Count Grishnack
Let me just say, you have a perspective on gaming that is hugely interesting to me. Keep up the good work.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 09:45
Elsa
@Doomsday... in some ways those quiet women using gender-neutral nicks ARE the smart ones, however I honestly think that they are also missing out on about half the fun of playing a team based game - which is coordinating with your team. I also think that if female gamers were a bit more visible in gaming that guys would simply pay less attention to them. Right now female gamers are perceived as a novelty ... but I think guys would be VERY surprised to find out just how many of those gender-neutral nick, quiet gamers are actually women.

It's all personal choice... but I don't think that female gamers should feel that they "have to be silent" to avoid harassment. As I've said, it only takes one idiot to ruin a game... but luckily those idiots are a minority.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 10:39
Qraze
but how can you play when you're cleaning and cooking my dinner? just joking. good read. now i know what to say to these female gamers, and knowing is half the battle!
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 10:40
Corak
I've seen first hand most of the stuff you talked about above in relation to "girl gamers." I'm never one of the guys that ask "are you hot?" The guys that say that have no idea how to act around women in general. I don't say much during a match anyway, unless it relates to something going on, like "sniper just got me, hes up in that tower." When I hear a woman's voice in a match I do take notice, but that's it. I prefer to let someone's skill when playing the game speak for itself. If a woman is on the other team, like you happened to be last Friday night, I do make a little extra effort to try and hunt you down. Maybe because I don't want to be killed by a girl but mostly because I like to spread the bullets around to all genders :) and since vocal female gamers are a little more rare I definitely have to make that extra effort.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 10:57
Elsa
LOL Corak... yeah, my chattiness is my downfall in KZ2 with the proximity chat... I'm often broadcasting my position! It's interesting that you say you'll sometimes make an effort to "hunt" down a female gamer... I didn't realize guys did that... but being a gamer first I'm going to use that as an excuse for my KDR! :)
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 20:08
Elsa
@Hoborg... if I was in a game with you... I doubt you would even notice I was female after a very short period of time!

... part of the purpose of my blog was to say that we're entering a rather male-dominated domain... just as with male gamers entering online FPS games, we females have to adjust to that (though the adjustment might be larger for females). A lot of what happens in a game is not because we're female... it's just the way it is in many FPS games. Guys will t-bag each other, they'll swear, they'll harass and be abusive - not all guys, only a small minority - it's just the way it is.

Regarding a "unique female identity"... I hope not to see one. Female gamers are as diverse as male gamers... in the end, we're all just gamers.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 20:11
Elsa
Oh... and I should add that I'm sure there are females that will harass and tbag as well... though I haven't met one of those females yet. I do know a lot of female gamers... and most are rather quiet, but that's the nature of their personalities.

Me... I'm rather outspoken... and that's just the nature of mine! :)
Joanna Mueller's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 20:58
Joanna Mueller
Have I mentioned I really love your stuff? Another excellent write-up that is definitely relevant to my interests. I'm starting out on Quake live right now and find it to be a really neat way to work off some stress in 10-15 min intervals.

I'm still pretty terrible, my accuracy is around 18% on a good day, but every so often I pull off a pretty good kill and that makes it all worth it.

I think the biggest problem I have with other girl gamers (mostly from MMO's) is the attention whoring. I usually mention that I'm a girl once in awhile so that I'm not constantly referred to as "dude", or "man" all the time, but otherwise I just play and go with the flow. The chicks who strip their avatars down to their underthings and run around town begging for money, cuz they are girls and need to be taken care of, piss me off. So far it hasn't come up in FPS games, but I'm still pretty new to the whole thing.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 21:48
Elsa
@Zodiac... too cool that you're playing Quake!! I used to do a lot of PC gaming, but I never played any shooter games back then. From what I understand, the game seems a bit similar to Unreal Tournament in that it's a fairly fast game with pick ups/power ups. I really like UT3... the speed is so fast and smooth... it's like dancing!

Don't worry about your accuracy... it will come in time - just have fun! (and many FPS games are very similar, so once you've played one, your skills transfer somewhat when playing another.) PC FPS gamers have been around a long, long time, so you're probably playing against some pretty experienced FPS gamers. I think those of us that play console shooters probably have it a little easier! I figure you're jumping in at the deep end of the pool!
:)
alex1314159's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/30/2009 05:37
alex1314159
internet + anomity + audience = total dickwad.

This explains most people's stupid behaviour on online games
*sigh I wish things could be different.
RiotMonster's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 15:08
RiotMonster
This was pretty awesome.. <3
Airbr1dge's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 23:09
Airbr1dge
This was a good artical. Thank you for posting! I'm trying to get some girls into gaming so this looks like it will help.
Ryshta's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/29/2010 19:05
Ryshta
Thanks for the guide...help me understanding a couple of things...
I only have one question...should I worry when my boyfriend calls her friend a "bitch" because it is a "sign of love and respect"?

LOL...just joking...(I hope I was joking)
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