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Sony's GTA4 Freeze "Solution"
Doomtrain | 10:58 PM on 05.15.2008 21 comments


I just got off the phone with SCEA customer support, and it was an interesting call to say the least.

After the usual rigmarole of robots and elevator music, I get a hold of a live human being. After describing the problem in detail, he says he'll need to transfer me to a specialist department that's dealing with just this single issue. I'm not sure if I should feel good about that or not. After holding for a short while, I get this "specialist" on the line, and start giving him model numbers, dates and what have you. Standard stuff.

Then it happens. The death knell of customer satisfaction; "we'll need to exchange your console".

I was about to throw the phone, because unfortunately for me, my warranty sticker is long gone. I bought my 60GB PS3 from GameStop, and they peel them off so that you can't go to Sony for repair, you have to go back to GameStop. God I hate Gamestop, but I digress. He asks if the serial number sticker has been tampered with, I say that it hasn't. He asks if the warranty sticker has been tampered with and I grudgingly, face fully buried in palm, tell him that I bought it from GameStop and that the warranty sticker is gone.

He hesitates for a moment, then kind of groans like he knows he's about to make me mad. He asks me to hold for short while while he pulls up information. I'm stomping around the room, fuming, swearing to never buy another Sony product again. I prepare to unleash the fury.

He comes back on the line. I brace to be told that I'm going to owe $170 to replace my non-broken console. He tells me that even though the warranty sticker is gone, Sony is offering me a repair or replacement of my PS3 be it under or over it's warranty time, sticker or not, as "a gesture of good will". I'll be mailed a coffin, and a pre-paid shipping label for free, and will be mailed either my current console with new hardware under the hood or a replacement, along with a 90-day warranty for whichever I get back. I quickly ask if I'll get the same model back, as if they're going to be sending me anything other than a 60GB one, they can keep it, free or not. He says that I'll be either getting my current console with updated hardware, or either a new or certified re-build, but it will be the same model, with full hardware backwards compatibility intact.

I ask one last time if this is going to cost me anything, at any point. It seems too good to be true, a totally free repair or replacement for a console I didn't even buy from them? One that's warranty is totally void? I mean, they didn't make a dime on my buying this PS3, GameStop did. He assures me that the shipping both ways is free, and that packing materials will be mailed to me, along with pre-paid postage, and that the repair or replacement will be done at no cost. Turnaround time is about about three weeks including shipping both ways, he adds.

I'm speechless. He asks if I'm still there, and if I have a pen and paper handy to write down my service numbers.

I'm still not happy about having to exchange my console on account of a single game not working correctly, but considering they could have offloaded this whole mess to Rockstar, saying it was their game's fault, I feel a free out-of-warranty repair is going well above and beyond the call. I am impressed.



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pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/15/2008 23:29
pedrovay2003
Holy crap... That's awesome that they did that for you.

I, too, hate GameStop, but it's awesome that you stuck it to them and didn't have to bring it back to them in the end. And your new one may well have a nice new sticker on it for another warranty.
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/15/2008 23:42
Hamza CTZ Aziz
Yay, you blogged about it! Welcome to the blogs!
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/15/2008 23:53
Y0j1mb0
That's pretty outlandish. So you're saying your console worked perfectly with everything else but because of GTA IV you're shipping it back for repairs?

While that may be generous of Sony I would wait fro another patch from Rockstar. I too have a 60 gig had a similar freeze as did quite a few PS3 owners and the 1st patch fix that up quick. Unless I'm missing soething i your story I wouldn't trust a guarantee from customer service no matter how sincere.. them 60 gigers aren't in production no more.

To turn one in with a chance of not getting that back for one game..? Screw that. I thought I read somewhere someone's still waiting to get their 60 gig from repairs 5 months still.
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 00:27
Doomtrain
@brainderailment

I was just going on what the clerk I bought it from said. He told me that the warranty sticker had been removed, and to make sure I didn't break the gamestop sticker they put in it's place if I wanted a replacement.

@yojimbo

He told me that the 60GB parts were plenty in stock for repairs and replacement, and assured me that I would be getting the same model back. From what he was telling me I don't think there is any other way to fix this. The latest firmware update told that it wasn't for GTA4, and that you needed to call Sony for instructions, so that's what I did. If I remember the story of the guy waiting that long for a 60GB repair was the PAL version of the console, in a different region. I could be wrong.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 04:29
Takeshi
"If I remember the story of the guy waiting that long for a 60GB repair was the PAL version of the console."

That's it! We're getting screwed again!! Fuck dammit!

Seriously, that's some service Sony is giving you. But I think they screwed you anyway. Your console isn't broken. They just needed to get one in for repairs. Because They are forgetting how it is done, they need some practice. ;)
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 07:00
Doomtrain
@Takeshi

I think it really depends on what the problem is that's stopping GTA4 from working correctly.

It has to be some kind of hardware flaw, as you can bet that if they could fix it with firmware, they would do that instead of replacing a used console for free.

And again, considering that I've been quoted at $170 for out of warranty repairs before, for them to do it for free is impressive.
Too Much Coffee Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 07:00
Too Much Coffee Man
Sony did sell you the console btw. Sony sold it to gamestop who sold it to you. So in essence they sold it to you. & they're profiting off you being part of the install base for game & movie royalties. No matter where you buy it they're supposed to honor the warranty. Maybe gamestop messed with the sticker because they used to have a one year warranty program where you could exchange it for a new one there. dunno. that suck that they cant just patch it w/ firmware; but its nice that they're going to replace it w/ another 60GB version. Not sure what they're fixing though, doubt they made another 60GB mobo chipset just for GTA. Did they tell u what they were going to do to it?
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 07:10
Doomtrain
Sony didn't sell it to GameStop, someone traded it in.
Too Much Coffee Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 08:05
Too Much Coffee Man
@Doomtrain ah, didnt know it was used. Still though, you adopting it means you buy games/movies for it means sony's profiting off royalties just the same. so in essence you still did buy it from sony. :p
happyorangeman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 09:33
happyorangeman
Sony customer service was pretty quick to replace my 60GB model last year. It took about 3 weeks and I had a new PS3. There was a problem signing back into my PS3 Network ID but they gave me the phone number to the guy in charge and he fixed it in 2 minutes.
PetiePal's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 09:54
PetiePal
Lesson learned, peel your warranty sticker off, but save it somewhere save.
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 10:23
Doomtrain
@PetiePal

You can't. The sticker separates into the sticker itself and a bunch of "VOID" stamps left behind on the console, it wouldn't look the same reapplied to a different system, or even trying to put it back in place. It's one of those tricky stickers.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 10:26
king3vbo
Wait, they pull the sticker off? Isnt that like... against some sort of law or something?
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 11:34
Takeshi
@Doomtrain

I meant they aren't used to the fact that PS3's aren't returned very often. They tend to forget how the bloody thing works. There are some consoles on the other hand...
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 12:13
mix
I'm with y0j1mb0 on this one as pretty much every PS3 is having issues with GTA4 online. Unhook your PS3 from the internet and you can play single player worry free and sweat it out for another patch from R*.

@king3vbo

I think so. I almost ripped off my mattress label and I swear I heard sirens....
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/16/2008 14:49
Doomtrain
@mix

Trust me, I've tried every single possible fix for this, and nothing works. The 12 steps, net connection fiddling, every resolution possible, everything.

@king3vbo

I don't know if it's GameStop that peeled it off. It may have been removed by the previous owner, for whatever reason. I just know that there's a bunch of "VOID" on the side where the sticker should be, and a gamestop sticker in it's place.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2008 18:33
Aaron Mxy Yost
That is an awesome customerm service story.
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