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Glad you're ready to give the cblogs another try and congrats on being honest with yourself, best wishes for you.
It's kind of awkward to be the first response to a blog like this, but I can't stop myself and just started typing, so here it goes.
Unless you really, really have to have someone's respect or need attention you don't have to explain your sexuality. Good on you for accepting and I hope you you're happy with it. Don't worry too much about what other people think, but alternately don't go new gay overboard. There's a difference between liking men and cruising. Trust me, it's liberating to be who you want to be, but putting yourself at risk by whoring out to any pretty face is awful and often a harrowing experience. I'm not saying that you should hide yourself away. It's just safer for you and anyone else that you want in your life if you don't leave waves of used condoms in your wake.
Be who you are. Be who you want to be. Don't change because it's part of someone else's lifestyle, or what is expected from someone who is gay. Live your own life and try to enjoy it as much as you can.
Also, I am fifty dollars an hour and I don't catch or blow. Welcome to the Jungle.
Unless you really, really have to have someone's respect or need attention you don't have to explain your sexuality. Good on you for accepting and I hope you you're happy with it. Don't worry too much about what other people think, but alternately don't go new gay overboard. There's a difference between liking men and cruising. Trust me, it's liberating to be who you want to be, but putting yourself at risk by whoring out to any pretty face is awful and often a harrowing experience. I'm not saying that you should hide yourself away. It's just safer for you and anyone else that you want in your life if you don't leave waves of used condoms in your wake.
Be who you are. Be who you want to be. Don't change because it's part of someone else's lifestyle, or what is expected from someone who is gay. Live your own life and try to enjoy it as much as you can.
Also, I am fifty dollars an hour and I don't catch or blow. Welcome to the Jungle.
So you yearn for cock now?
"Having come out bi, I've found a lot of people telling me that "bi doesn't exist" or "you're in denial" basically trying to convince me that I'm gay. One of my friends is gay, and has a masters in psychology, and he argues the same thing."
Do you read/listen to Dan Savage? He answers questions like that. Listen to his podcast (Savage Love Podcast). I heard someone call in with the same exact story you told. Dan gives pretty good advice to the lost and confused.
"Having come out bi, I've found a lot of people telling me that "bi doesn't exist" or "you're in denial" basically trying to convince me that I'm gay. One of my friends is gay, and has a masters in psychology, and he argues the same thing."
Do you read/listen to Dan Savage? He answers questions like that. Listen to his podcast (Savage Love Podcast). I heard someone call in with the same exact story you told. Dan gives pretty good advice to the lost and confused.
Dude...it's only as much of an issue as you make of it. Ignore the social pressure. It's for the weak.
Myself, I'm straight most of the time. But every once in a while I meet a friendly femme boy at the local cafe, and well...
There's really nothing gay about being attracted to the opposite sex. Roman generals used it to prove their dominance over those who had been conquered. That's about as manly as it gets, don't you think?
Myself, I'm straight most of the time. But every once in a while I meet a friendly femme boy at the local cafe, and well...
There's really nothing gay about being attracted to the opposite sex. Roman generals used it to prove their dominance over those who had been conquered. That's about as manly as it gets, don't you think?
@ Falsenipple
Dude, if I was gay I would be swimming in cock right now.Gay guys hit on me all the time, I guess I give out that vibe, but if I was gay, my success in getting laid would be far greater than what I have now. Women are such stuck ups, ugh. I do decently in that area, but my dream in life is to be a cocksmith. Men, like you and I, are sluts. Women, on the other hand, are sometimes sluts.
Hey, there is nothing wrong with being a little slutty now and then. God know the things I've done.
Dude, if I was gay I would be swimming in cock right now.Gay guys hit on me all the time, I guess I give out that vibe, but if I was gay, my success in getting laid would be far greater than what I have now. Women are such stuck ups, ugh. I do decently in that area, but my dream in life is to be a cocksmith. Men, like you and I, are sluts. Women, on the other hand, are sometimes sluts.
Hey, there is nothing wrong with being a little slutty now and then. God know the things I've done.
I am running on three hours of sleep, two beers and enough cups of coffee that the world appears to vibrate at the frequency of Guns N' Rose's November Rain, so forgive me if am lacking in my expression.
Hi again. I wondered what happened to you. Welcome back.
Hi again. I wondered what happened to you. Welcome back.
Brad Nicholson recommended that Dan Savage podcast a few times on Electric Hydra (though, mostly for the nasty stuff people ask). Some guy called in saying his respective other's face always smelled like crotch. Topher's advice was to not grow a beard. Laughter ensued.
Brad is a newbie! I've listen to Dan Savage since middle school. I first read his column in the back of The Village Voice next to all the Shemale ads, when I was 12. Brad is just...yeah, he's cool.
The conversation that followed after you came out on Dtoid Chat was pretty epic!
Hopefully you can find the strength to tell your family and ease your worries.
Hopefully you can find the strength to tell your family and ease your worries.
Oh snap! Don't let Brad here you say that! He'll muscle you to death with his arms.
@DimmuJed: Sorry for the two comments about Brad. Welcome black.
@DimmuJed: Sorry for the two comments about Brad. Welcome black.
I admire your courage. I don't care if someone is bi or not, if they're a cool person then they're a cool person. Don't get discouraged about low replies on your blogs sometimes. It doesn't mean it wasn't read, just that people didn't take the time to reply. I'll give this blog a fap when I get back to my PC. (On my phone, atm)
I wouldn't have thought this was a very big deal at all if it weren't for the fact that you had a wife-to-be and a kid, meng.
And those things have nothing to do with your sexuality.
And those things have nothing to do with your sexuality.
I didn't recognize you at first now that you changed your picture, welcome back
Don't think too hard about it, Bi doesn't mean undecided like many people claim it does. The negativity towards the "fence sitter" in the LGBT community is something that needs to disappear. It's hypocritical to say that it's okay to like boys or girls regardless of your own gender, but it's not okay to like both. In a way you are kind of lucky (aside from the societal shun, and mental anguish) you get to appreciate the beauty of both genders, and go tell your Mother as soon as you can. I know it's difficult, but if your child was hurting you would feel terrible for not being there for them.
Don't think too hard about it, Bi doesn't mean undecided like many people claim it does. The negativity towards the "fence sitter" in the LGBT community is something that needs to disappear. It's hypocritical to say that it's okay to like boys or girls regardless of your own gender, but it's not okay to like both. In a way you are kind of lucky (aside from the societal shun, and mental anguish) you get to appreciate the beauty of both genders, and go tell your Mother as soon as you can. I know it's difficult, but if your child was hurting you would feel terrible for not being there for them.
Alright, good for you for realizing more facets about your own life, but I need to address something else here.
Don't write just to get comments and faps. Write because you want to write. There's no room for attention whores on Dtoid... unless you're staff.
Don't write just to get comments and faps. Write because you want to write. There's no room for attention whores on Dtoid... unless you're staff.
Also why does coming out as bi mean you have to embrace all the negative gay stereotypes? And why does it mean you have to leave your fiance and immediately go out and have sex with a bunch of guys? You sound like you're going though a slut phase.
"I bought my first V-neck, naired my arms/legs/chest, and have a less masculine beard now. Before anyone asks, no...I don't lisp or anything like that."
Those better fucking be joke statements, or else I'm just going to take everything you said in this post as an apparently successful attempt to be an attention whore.
Those better fucking be joke statements, or else I'm just going to take everything you said in this post as an apparently successful attempt to be an attention whore.
I respect your decision but the thing that Alcholocast quoted stuck out to me to. If those are serious comments, then, I'm sorry. I truly am. Life really must be hard.
But to each their own, congratulations on coming to terms with your self. Sexuality isn't really all that important in the grand scope of things though. Just be yourself.
But to each their own, congratulations on coming to terms with your self. Sexuality isn't really all that important in the grand scope of things though. Just be yourself.
The only advice I have to give people regarding this kind of stuff is this.
Don't let who you fuck, determine who you are.
Don't let who you fuck, determine who you are.
Good luck mate. Stay strong! For what it's worth, my girlfriend's openly bisexual, and as far as I'm aware, everyone here at university is fine with it (although her parents don't know). I suppose it's all about finding the right crowd of people to associate with.
I also agree that bi, is still a denial move. But I don't force people believe that theory.
Seriously, dude, thanks for sharing your thoughts about your sexuality, but that's not what defines a person. Especially when it comes to videogames. So, while I'm happy about you, feeling alright with yourself, I'd advise you not going around saying
"Hi, I'm JimmuJed and I'm Bi"
No, there are other redeeming qualities on people than that. Besides the most of people will translate it like "Hi, I fuck everything. Wanna ride?" which is not exactly what they expect from you.
Anyway, I'm looking forward for your future posts! Have fun!
Seriously, dude, thanks for sharing your thoughts about your sexuality, but that's not what defines a person. Especially when it comes to videogames. So, while I'm happy about you, feeling alright with yourself, I'd advise you not going around saying
"Hi, I'm JimmuJed and I'm Bi"
No, there are other redeeming qualities on people than that. Besides the most of people will translate it like "Hi, I fuck everything. Wanna ride?" which is not exactly what they expect from you.
Anyway, I'm looking forward for your future posts! Have fun!
I dont get it, what does a v neck shirt have anything to do with sexulaity? Im not gay and im wearing one now as I write this. I also think being bi is sort of a denial moves, but whatever, as long as youre happy.
I think that bi-bashing is part of the stupid nonsense amongst the LGBT community that makes me facepalm every time. The very thing we're trying to drill through people's minds is that some people feel different about who they like and what gender they feel they are, but then we tell someone their sexual or gender identity is invalid? WTF people. Seriously.
And good on you DimmuJed! *internet brofist*
I can relate to how much courage it takes to go through this, and I didn't even have a girlfriend at the time. I can assure people it's not attention-whoring, but sharing how an important RL achievement affected you. So chin up, bro!
Also, if you feel like talking about any of that stuff, you might enjoy some LGBT-friendly online communities for gamers, like gaygamer.net or gay-nerds.com.
And good on you DimmuJed! *internet brofist*
I can relate to how much courage it takes to go through this, and I didn't even have a girlfriend at the time. I can assure people it's not attention-whoring, but sharing how an important RL achievement affected you. So chin up, bro!
Also, if you feel like talking about any of that stuff, you might enjoy some LGBT-friendly online communities for gamers, like gaygamer.net or gay-nerds.com.
I fapped because it takes a lot of nerve to speak publicly about yourself, and your choices. Be careful out there, man. Don't let your sexuality define who you are as a person, and BE SAFE.
Glad to see you back and congrats on coming out! You'll find your way -- whether you're straight, bi, gay, whatever as long as you're comfortable with it you shouldn't have to convince others of your feelings.
I totally respect all of this, except for the part about your kid. That kind of bugs me. Anyway, as others have said, let it be part of who you are, but don't let it be the entirety (or majority) of who you are, i.e. don't go overboard.
3 things.
1) Your mother doesn't need to know. You're a grown up and its none of her business.
2) Its hard to not look like an attention whore if you're telling everyone on the internet your coming out story outside of an actual support forum.
3) As others have said, if you were being serious about the v-neck etc then I will get angry. You shouldn't start to act differently when you come out.
And as for bisexuality, it exists. I have a friend who's been with his girlfriend for 2 years, I screw him on a regular basis. Enough said.
1) Your mother doesn't need to know. You're a grown up and its none of her business.
2) Its hard to not look like an attention whore if you're telling everyone on the internet your coming out story outside of an actual support forum.
3) As others have said, if you were being serious about the v-neck etc then I will get angry. You shouldn't start to act differently when you come out.
And as for bisexuality, it exists. I have a friend who's been with his girlfriend for 2 years, I screw him on a regular basis. Enough said.
I'm glad you're on the road to finding out who you are and didn't enter a marriage out of a sense of responsibility, but no love. It's great that you and the mother of your child are able to get along regarding all this and it bodes well for your daughter's future.
As an older woman, all I can say is that at some point you're going to have to speak to your Mom and let her know what's going on. If you're close to your Mom, she knows something is going on and is likely worried about you. She may not even be surprised - Mom's often have a sense of these things. There may be some initial shock - probably more associated with worry, but I'm quite sure your Mom loves you and will accept you for who you are. :)
As an older woman, all I can say is that at some point you're going to have to speak to your Mom and let her know what's going on. If you're close to your Mom, she knows something is going on and is likely worried about you. She may not even be surprised - Mom's often have a sense of these things. There may be some initial shock - probably more associated with worry, but I'm quite sure your Mom loves you and will accept you for who you are. :)
@ Alcoholcast - Nah, a better example of attention whoring would be that one kid who posted pics of himself with a giant hole in his face. Remember that, Zach? It was hilarious.
Grats, man. All I'm gonna say is that you're an inspiration to us all, and that if you and you're mom are really close, then the whole thing will come out naturally over time.
Glad to have you back, and I appreciate how difficult it must have been to share all of this. My best friend is gay, and he only gathered up the nerve to come out to his mom in his mid-20s (he's 29 now). He still hasn't found a way to tell his dad, and probably never will -- the man is 70, and about as old-fashioned as you can get.
Still, he's been much happier since it's been "out" there, and I hope that you'll find this is true for you as well.
Still, he's been much happier since it's been "out" there, and I hope that you'll find this is true for you as well.
Very interesting read and good luck on figuring/working everything out!
@VenusInFurs
Lol, me too man! I've been hit on MANY times by guys but I'm straight; however, gay/bi people don't bother me at all had one friend who "thought" he was guy and none of us cared. Turned out to be just a phase for him but whatever, we still hung out and took group showers like we always used to....
I keed I keed, lol.
@VenusInFurs
Lol, me too man! I've been hit on MANY times by guys but I'm straight; however, gay/bi people don't bother me at all had one friend who "thought" he was guy and none of us cared. Turned out to be just a phase for him but whatever, we still hung out and took group showers like we always used to....
I keed I keed, lol.
Talking about it openly makes it a less bigger deal. Good for you.
I had major headaches when I came out. My mom took about 2 to 3 months before she got confortable with the idea that her dear son wouldn't bring any babies home. Well you already did.
I had major headaches when I came out. My mom took about 2 to 3 months before she got confortable with the idea that her dear son wouldn't bring any babies home. Well you already did.
Hey grats! Before I came out I was severely depressed and it felt like i went trough hell on a unicycle , but when i finally came out it was great ! And as Elsa said , my family knew something was wrong and wasnīt that surprised :P Hope all goes well with your kid and girlfriend! Awesome man , glad to have you back! And as for the Bi winning , Iīm like that too , but I donīt tend to think about it too much , I mean if you find a nice gal, fine , if you find a nice boy also fine , as long as your happy xD
Applause * I donīt realy see this as attention whoring because you can only come out one time, and donīt bother about comments ands stuff, donīt let that bring you down, it happens the best of us, if you feel like writing do it! xD
Applause * I donīt realy see this as attention whoring because you can only come out one time, and donīt bother about comments ands stuff, donīt let that bring you down, it happens the best of us, if you feel like writing do it! xD
Let me address some comments without naming names, as there are a lot of comments around some of the same things.
First off, I did not write this blog for attention. I honestly wrote this blog because I felt like it was something I needed to do to be able to get back on board here. Like it was a milestone.
Secondly, the things about v-neck and nair are serious. I couldn't believe people thought I was doing it for attention. Why wait till now to do those things? Cause I never thought it was appropriate or that people would think lowly of me or something, or might think that I am gay. Are those things gay stereotypes? Maybe, I don't know, but they are also things I've always wanted to do. The way I feel is that you have to find yourself attractive before anyone else can and I def didn't feel attractive giving Robin Williams a run for his money in the body hair department. I feel liberated, I'm not trying to yield to the gay lifestyle or anything, I'm just being who I was meant to be.
Those of you commenting about my child or ex, it was JUST my decision to break up, she is the one who said we have only been staying together for our child. Our child comes first and foremost in our lives, we don't put anything before her.
And to the people saying I'm going through a whore phase I say No, not at all. I'm actively seeking someone to date, not bang. To be honest I've only ever "been" with 2 people in my entire life, by choice, I've had opportunities believe me.
It honestly kind of hurts that people hate on this. It's tagged as NOT video game related for a reason, because it really isn't. It was just something I felt I needed to get off my chest, publicly. Just put it out there and move past it. It's not like I'm going to run away screaming I'M BI I'M BI I'M BI and doing whatever people think it is that bi people do either.
First off, I did not write this blog for attention. I honestly wrote this blog because I felt like it was something I needed to do to be able to get back on board here. Like it was a milestone.
Secondly, the things about v-neck and nair are serious. I couldn't believe people thought I was doing it for attention. Why wait till now to do those things? Cause I never thought it was appropriate or that people would think lowly of me or something, or might think that I am gay. Are those things gay stereotypes? Maybe, I don't know, but they are also things I've always wanted to do. The way I feel is that you have to find yourself attractive before anyone else can and I def didn't feel attractive giving Robin Williams a run for his money in the body hair department. I feel liberated, I'm not trying to yield to the gay lifestyle or anything, I'm just being who I was meant to be.
Those of you commenting about my child or ex, it was JUST my decision to break up, she is the one who said we have only been staying together for our child. Our child comes first and foremost in our lives, we don't put anything before her.
And to the people saying I'm going through a whore phase I say No, not at all. I'm actively seeking someone to date, not bang. To be honest I've only ever "been" with 2 people in my entire life, by choice, I've had opportunities believe me.
It honestly kind of hurts that people hate on this. It's tagged as NOT video game related for a reason, because it really isn't. It was just something I felt I needed to get off my chest, publicly. Just put it out there and move past it. It's not like I'm going to run away screaming I'M BI I'M BI I'M BI and doing whatever people think it is that bi people do either.
People will tell you bisexuality doesn't exist, for sure, but whatever. If it didn't exist, you wouldn't, y'know, be bi. So fuck 'em. Except not literally. Unless they want you to. In which case do it.
There are bi folk in my own family, and I myself sport a total apathy toward the gender of potential fuck-people, as you know, so you deffo got my support, chief.
Also, THIS IS NOT ABOUT VIDEOGAMES THEREFORE I WILL GO RAAAAAWR!
There are bi folk in my own family, and I myself sport a total apathy toward the gender of potential fuck-people, as you know, so you deffo got my support, chief.
Also, THIS IS NOT ABOUT VIDEOGAMES THEREFORE I WILL GO RAAAAAWR!
Good to hear from you again, dude! I also think it is pretty cool how you and your ex are responsible enough to maintain a healthy relationship for your child. Breaking up with someone and still living together without constantly fighting isn't something I think a lot of people are capable of doing.
Cheers.
Cheers.
@Jim
Did you actually read it, or just see the one line about how hard it was to come out and say "dawww"?
Did you actually read it, or just see the one line about how hard it was to come out and say "dawww"?
Jed-
You're amazing <3. Being bi is totally cool....and dont let people give you grief if you stay bi or decide later that you are just gay. I still jump back and forth with it all the time myself. But its my feelings, so other people can just deal with it.
Two more things, I think I came out to my mom by just coming out and saying that I found boys attractive just like I found girls...she sort of saw it coming, and told me that she just wanted me to be happy, and regardless of who or what sex that is, she wouldnt care (though I think she is hoping for a girl :P)
Also, your new avatar looks great. Just saying :P
You're amazing <3. Being bi is totally cool....and dont let people give you grief if you stay bi or decide later that you are just gay. I still jump back and forth with it all the time myself. But its my feelings, so other people can just deal with it.
Two more things, I think I came out to my mom by just coming out and saying that I found boys attractive just like I found girls...she sort of saw it coming, and told me that she just wanted me to be happy, and regardless of who or what sex that is, she wouldnt care (though I think she is hoping for a girl :P)
Also, your new avatar looks great. Just saying :P
Flat out 100% honestly, dude. This is annoying because you think that this is worth making a big deal out of. Your sexual preference has 0% bearing on yourself as an individual and yet you decided to put all your focus on it in a personal blog.
The entire time I read this all I thought about is the thing that mattered: The kid. Not just the fact that the whole "I'm gay" scenario has been used more than once to bail out on a failed marriage, but because you had her so young in the first place. In so many scenarios these things could lead to a child that got the short end of the stick.
It's legitimately annoying to know this and see a guy go on and on about his love life in public like it's the important thing. If you were gonna talk about anything to this community, obviously I would have wanted to hear about the kid and how exactly you plan to take care of her rather than give her two sentences and leave the rest up to speculation on our part.
In my mind sexuality is 100% psychological. Your desire to fuck is 100% biological. What you decide to do with those physical urges and what you find attractive are entirely dictated by your mind. I could care less about the people who assert that homosexuality of any kind of something you're born with unless they plan to present solid proof that it's nothing other than a deviation from basic human urge to reproduce.
That said, just because we're a tightly knit community doesn't mean putting yourself out in public is what's supposed to happen. It's not the social norm. Private lives are private, and they're shared between friends. Not everyone on D-Toid is your friend. Not every member of this community especially cares. I have a private life too. I've in fact been infatuated with a woman for the past 6 months or so. I talk about that kind of shit in private.
Because it's private. Nobody can stop you from doing this if you feel it's what you had to do, but I'm telling you right now that it's not something that needed to be done, and you now know why I'm legitimately annoyed by your belief that this was something important for us to know.
The entire time I read this all I thought about is the thing that mattered: The kid. Not just the fact that the whole "I'm gay" scenario has been used more than once to bail out on a failed marriage, but because you had her so young in the first place. In so many scenarios these things could lead to a child that got the short end of the stick.
It's legitimately annoying to know this and see a guy go on and on about his love life in public like it's the important thing. If you were gonna talk about anything to this community, obviously I would have wanted to hear about the kid and how exactly you plan to take care of her rather than give her two sentences and leave the rest up to speculation on our part.
In my mind sexuality is 100% psychological. Your desire to fuck is 100% biological. What you decide to do with those physical urges and what you find attractive are entirely dictated by your mind. I could care less about the people who assert that homosexuality of any kind of something you're born with unless they plan to present solid proof that it's nothing other than a deviation from basic human urge to reproduce.
That said, just because we're a tightly knit community doesn't mean putting yourself out in public is what's supposed to happen. It's not the social norm. Private lives are private, and they're shared between friends. Not everyone on D-Toid is your friend. Not every member of this community especially cares. I have a private life too. I've in fact been infatuated with a woman for the past 6 months or so. I talk about that kind of shit in private.
Because it's private. Nobody can stop you from doing this if you feel it's what you had to do, but I'm telling you right now that it's not something that needed to be done, and you now know why I'm legitimately annoyed by your belief that this was something important for us to know.
@Wry Guy
It wasn't important for you to know, it was important for me to actually voice it, this was just the outlet I used. Also, I'm not sure why everyone has to make a big deal out of my child, as I've said time and time again, she is the most important thing in my life, hence the reason I didn't need to clarify more.
Also, I've argued for years that it was a choice, but I really don't feel that way anymore. After fighting urges and feelings for years, I finally just accepted it.
When did you know you were straight? Did you decide to be straight?
It wasn't important for you to know, it was important for me to actually voice it, this was just the outlet I used. Also, I'm not sure why everyone has to make a big deal out of my child, as I've said time and time again, she is the most important thing in my life, hence the reason I didn't need to clarify more.
Also, I've argued for years that it was a choice, but I really don't feel that way anymore. After fighting urges and feelings for years, I finally just accepted it.
When did you know you were straight? Did you decide to be straight?
@Dimmujed: I already told you why it's a big deal. Your kid barely gets any mention in the blog. You leave it up in the air. As much as you wanna assert that you didn't, you did.
Just because something is psychological doesn't mean it's a choice either. A common phrase is that the largest sexual organ is the brain. This is very much so true considering it determines things most people don't stop to think about. When do people decide to have a particular fetish? When do people decide what sort of behavior arouses them? When do people decide what ethnicity of men or women they find most attractive?
Psychology isn't choice. Not unless you're part of the 1% of the population that actually knows how to deal with their own minds. Also, when did I decide to be straight? Never. Take that how you will.
Just because something is psychological doesn't mean it's a choice either. A common phrase is that the largest sexual organ is the brain. This is very much so true considering it determines things most people don't stop to think about. When do people decide to have a particular fetish? When do people decide what sort of behavior arouses them? When do people decide what ethnicity of men or women they find most attractive?
Psychology isn't choice. Not unless you're part of the 1% of the population that actually knows how to deal with their own minds. Also, when did I decide to be straight? Never. Take that how you will.
You know what Jed. This is probably the first C-Blog of yours I've liked, though I share the sentiments of the concern for your kid. I hope your assurance that she's your number one priority holds weight because this kinda shit can be a big deal.
Either way congrats on accepting your sexuality, or indecisiveness hehe. I hope your mom is understanding and accepting. I experienced something similar when my mother "discovered" I was into S&M. She didn't want a "pervert" living under her roof and she effectively kicked me out. We eventually made up but still it can be a trying thing.
Either way congrats on accepting your sexuality, or indecisiveness hehe. I hope your mom is understanding and accepting. I experienced something similar when my mother "discovered" I was into S&M. She didn't want a "pervert" living under her roof and she effectively kicked me out. We eventually made up but still it can be a trying thing.
