See I agree with this. You really can't be outraged by playing as one faction and not another just because there's a 70 year difference. Your either all in or a fucking hypocrite. Personally I have no problem with playing as any of them.
See Hamza made a distinction. He personally couldn't play the game, he wasn't going to boycott it just stay away because to him it hits too close to home. No distinction was ever made as to It being okay to play as Nazis vs Al Qaeda but you know Internet idiots/trolls, crying afoul of hypocracy.
See Hamza made a distinction. He personally couldn't play the game, he wasn't going to boycott it just stay away because to him it hits too close to home. No distinction was ever made as to It being okay to play as Nazis vs Al Qaeda but you know Internet idiots/trolls, crying afoul of hypocracy.
"Medal of Honor is a celebration of the valor of American soldiers."
I honestly laugh at this for some reason. I'm not aiming my comment particularly at you, but I have to say this;
If you want to celebrate the valor of American soldiers, or any soldiers for that matter. You shouldn't re-tale their sacrifice or service with a glorification of war. Medal of Honor on the other hand, is a war-game.
I don't see why any sides should be taken for that matter. The human tragedy is that we wage war upon ourselves. Whatever the mean, the purpose or reason; war cannot justify the lost of any human life.
Remembrance Day is the only worthy celebration of human sacrifice in time of war, because it promotes world peace, and the end of all wars.
I honestly laugh at this for some reason. I'm not aiming my comment particularly at you, but I have to say this;
If you want to celebrate the valor of American soldiers, or any soldiers for that matter. You shouldn't re-tale their sacrifice or service with a glorification of war. Medal of Honor on the other hand, is a war-game.
I don't see why any sides should be taken for that matter. The human tragedy is that we wage war upon ourselves. Whatever the mean, the purpose or reason; war cannot justify the lost of any human life.
Remembrance Day is the only worthy celebration of human sacrifice in time of war, because it promotes world peace, and the end of all wars.
No offense taken, Kraid. I meant to be be presenting what EA would say the depth is. Maybe I'll go back and edit that so it doesn't sound like a statement from me. I don't think there's much depth to any of these games, but I don't particularly care, either. I don't go to military FPS titles looking for depth.
I have no idea how Kraid became the authority on how to honor soldiers. Granted his stance is contradictory considering there are plenty of soldiers who retell their own stories. Not to mention there is plenty of acclaim by veterans for other representations of war, music, movies, books, etc. That have helped humanize and put into perspective what they actually went through. Does Medal of Honor do this? Probably not to the best of the mediums ability, but it does warrant exploration.
Are there really many people complaining that the Taliban are in this game? I mean that as a real question... not just a rhetorical one. I did a quick google search for "taliban medal of honor" and all I can find are articles from what seem like other video game sites. To me this whole thing feels like another controversy generated mostly by people who concern themselves about video games and share the same views shown in this article. Not that I disagree... I think you bring up many good points. It's just... I'd rather not get all riled up over a viewpoint I've never even seen expressed. Maybe when the game launches it'll get more people angry but it seems like the only people who really care about this right now are us. Of course there are people like Hamza but as you said... that's a personal reason which is ok and he himself isn't asking for a ban of this or anything. If there's something I'm not seeing then feel free to inform me but as of right not this all feels like another non-existent video game controversy to me.
Also, nobody complains about how every .3 seconds a CounterStrike game ends with "THE TERRORISTS WIN"
The sick thing is when you said play as the taliban , i thought it sounded like a good game mechanic , but mabye thats because my mind is so tweisted that i think its just a game , and the fact that this player model is shooting this player model, well thats just me
The fact of the matter is, that the wounds the Nazi's caused have all but healed in a sense. Nazi's aren't hiding in caves and killing American soldiers at this moment. The Taliban hits close to home currently, because it is effecting soldiers and their families as I type. The wound is wide open, and this is salt in it for some.
During or directly after a traumatic or tragic event it's generally not kosher for media to re-enact it, or parody it. Like JFK being killed, or Columbine. Did you know after 9/11 they banned Tom Petty's "Free Fallin" from the radio for a year because it could remind people of the tragic events?
I think it's understandable people will be upset, and just because you aren't doesn't mean they can't be. To each their own.
During or directly after a traumatic or tragic event it's generally not kosher for media to re-enact it, or parody it. Like JFK being killed, or Columbine. Did you know after 9/11 they banned Tom Petty's "Free Fallin" from the radio for a year because it could remind people of the tragic events?
I think it's understandable people will be upset, and just because you aren't doesn't mean they can't be. To each their own.
I have Hamzas back on this one, not necessarily something I want to go after in a game. My concern is that if they were just called anything other than by the proper group name but were every bit the same dial a dozen terrorists, nobody, him included, would care as much.
Give this whole thing about forty years, and I doubt anyone would give a shit about it either.
Give this whole thing about forty years, and I doubt anyone would give a shit about it either.
@GoggleKnocker - There was a story on Kotaku, and a piece written over at MyGamer that pop up in my quick memory check...but I know I've seen others expressing this "issue" over the last week or so.
@DimmuJed - I don't think you're correct about Nazi wounds having healed. The entire nation of Germany is still pretty much in denial about the whole thing. Ask any Jew whether they feel "healed" about the Holocaust. I think it will be at least another 50 years before World War II has really seeped out of the public consciousness to the point where contemplation of "healed Nazi wounds" might be appropriate.
I've heard the "too soon" argument, that if those people don't want to play Medal of Honor, that's fine - but then I want everyone bitching about the Taliban in Medal of Honor to state their bias up front like Hamzas did. Bias isn't a bad thing, it's just a thing, and I think it's incumbent upon a writer to state theirs immediately if it's present enough that they cannot correct for it. So, if someone says "My husband is serving in Afghanistan, and so I cannot play this game because it makes me uncomfortable," that's fine. That's also not an attack on Electronic Arts for setting the game in Afghanistan, which is what I take issue with, if that makes sense.
@DimmuJed - I don't think you're correct about Nazi wounds having healed. The entire nation of Germany is still pretty much in denial about the whole thing. Ask any Jew whether they feel "healed" about the Holocaust. I think it will be at least another 50 years before World War II has really seeped out of the public consciousness to the point where contemplation of "healed Nazi wounds" might be appropriate.
I've heard the "too soon" argument, that if those people don't want to play Medal of Honor, that's fine - but then I want everyone bitching about the Taliban in Medal of Honor to state their bias up front like Hamzas did. Bias isn't a bad thing, it's just a thing, and I think it's incumbent upon a writer to state theirs immediately if it's present enough that they cannot correct for it. So, if someone says "My husband is serving in Afghanistan, and so I cannot play this game because it makes me uncomfortable," that's fine. That's also not an attack on Electronic Arts for setting the game in Afghanistan, which is what I take issue with, if that makes sense.
I understand what you are saying. And yes, in Germany you don't even whisper Nazi, but that is Germany. I'm talking from a US standpoint. I don't really know any Jews in person, but Jewish comedians joke about the Holocaust so I can only imagine that it isn't a "big deal" anymore. One of the most tragic, horrendous things of all time, yes, but I feel like reflecting on it and discussing it isn't making people too sensitive anymore.

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