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It really doesn’t take any effort at all to notice. Be it Here at D'toid, over at Kotaku, Gamespot, Gametrailers, blah blah, hell even sometimes Screwattack, and hell SEGANerds of all places where the mascot is an anthropomorphic hedgehog. All you have to do is find a website with an applicable "Search" bar and type the magic word "furry". The results are always quick to tell me and others about articles in which someone is yelling at the top of their virtual text based lungs for "furfags to yiff/die in hell". And wouldn't ya know it, its not like the publication is helping to prevent the indirect bile tossing. Not that I’m instigating halting free speech, just saying the publications don’t really need to add gas to the fire. "Does wanting to bang Rouge make me a furry?" is the name of one such an article here on Destrouctoid and its the first thing that come sup when you search for the term "furry". I don’t really need to point it out, but i will anyways, the amount of uproar in the comments section is no less obvious, but really shows just how one subject can turn masses into squabbling fucktards trying their best to outsquabble the commenter before them by trying to exclaim they hate this certain group of people more. If that last statement sounded like racism to you? You’r right. But its not entirely correct. Hating a subculture is ok, that's the power of freedom to do whatever you want. But it just goes to show how putting something in a different light has the power to direct ones opinions into a cascade of followers who think they share the same opinion, as a person in a higher power. Much like Hitler. Except he was a little more forceful. Ill bet not every German was eager to kill the Jews as much as him. But then, it doesn't take much to sway the opinions of others on the internet, just a simple article comprising of a bunch of text, and congratulations, you have amassed a following of likeminded individuals, blighted with a case of the "MeToo'isms" Back on topic for a second, *ahem* What i really want to know is, and what im getting at is: Why do YOU hate "FurFags/Furries"? Before you reply, i encourage you to think, cause i will moderate the comments (if Destructoid allows it) that simply just yell out "f- off and die furfag" or something akin to that. I don’t care what you reply with, good or bad, i just want an intelligent answer. Did you have a bad run in with one? Did one try to run up and hump your leg? Did one of them happen to draw Yiff of your favorite cartoon character effectively 'destroying your childhood' as a whole? Really, i want to know. 
With the question and meat and potatoes out of the way, i have but one last thing to say, please don’t forget, Gamers, as a whole, is 1 subculture, and one hell of a subculture it is. Its INCREDIBLY diverse and from ALL ages. We have: - Squeakers - Underagers - Gangstas - Hobbyists - Hardcore - Casual - Family - TrashTalkers - Counter-Strikers - FPS_heads - AdventureTards - RPfags - Haloshitters - Fanboys - FanGirls - Engineers (ones who build game memorabilia) - Clanny's (Clans/Groups) - Cleancuts - Southerner Dicksqueezers - Goths - Emos - Musicians - Infants - Children - Teenages - Parents - Grandparents - Console Tards - PC Nerds and the list could go on for pages. (disclaimer: no I didn’t come up with any of these terms, its amazing the stuff you hear just on XBL alone) What am i getting at? Furries are the same thing. Same with ANY other subculture in existence. There are - Artists - Roleplayers - Fursuiters - Constructors (Engineer equivalent) - Collectors - Gamers - Game Developers (!) - Animators - Mascots - and blah blah blah again, list could go on. But that’s the point, So if your situation was something like this: "Fucking furry, i saw one running around in a fox costume thing, fucking freaks" just think of this "Fucking gamers, i saw one running around yelling BOOMHEADSHOT all day int eh store, fucking freaks" what these people don’t realize, is they're placing umpteen THOUSANDS of people under the direct personal categorization of just what they’ve witnessed a couple or sub-section of a sub-culture do. Be it jaded, but I find the whole act completely shallow. less your trolling for lulz, and don’t have a direct beef, keep going i guess, because that’s what WEB2.0 was designed for. EDIT: Ive been informed in the comments that in order to make my point valid, I should explain what one is? Unfortunately that’s almost impossible to sum it all up quickly, but I definitely grab a chunk of text im aware of that pretty much sums what I think a Furry is: -- Furry fandom is an artistic and literary genre dedicated to anthropomorphic animal characters, commonly known as furries. Furry fandom began as a fusion of science fiction, comic book, and animation fandom during the 1980s, and has since thrived and grown, evolving into its own branch of fandom and finding adherents all over the world. Recent media attention has made the public more aware of this growing fandom. Our members include professional sports mascots, animators, cartoonists, puppeteers, artists, illustrators, and writers. The amount of creativity and talent furry fandom has to offer is truly amazing. ~Coolfurries.com -- If you visit that page you’ll notice I took out a small chunk of text near the bottom, as I think its an outright lie, and the internet as a whole is no better proof than that I hope that helps clear things up here. -DV 
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I'm fine with it, but presumably you wrote this in the vain hope that you'd bring someone around to your point of view - in which case you need to present it as accessibly as you can, which might mean sometimes editing down a bit, or being a bit more grammatically correct or maybe even adding a picture or two (something I personally see more as a style-choice, but some people here seem to feel strongly about)
needs shiny pictures
case in point.
Surplusgamer, your absolutely correct! in fact im going to bring that into MS Word and spellcheck it immediately, i wont lie, i wrote this at work on company time, spellchecking actually didn't occur to me more than a simple thought i had rummaging around in my head for a while.
As for how the article is written, i guess that's why i don't work for a publication :)
as for you Edarios: im going to take that as sarcasm :p
On a serious note, is the whole furry thing ENTIRELY sexual, or do people enjoy it on some level without sex being involved? The only time I've ever encountered furry stuff is in unusual animated pornography, with Beauty getting nailed from behind by the (very appropriately named) Beast.
PROTIP: After you spellcheck in Word, copy/paste the text into Notepad, then copy/paste here. I don't know exactly why, but if you copy directly from Word you get tons of weird symbols everywhere. And yeah, pictures help.
Still, I think that you could say exactly what you're trying to say in about half as many words and still be just as effective without dumbing anything down - which is maybe something to think about for the next post.
:D
@char aznable: No, it isn't entirely sexual. For many furries it isn't even partially sexual, although the sexual stuff does get about a lot. For most I've spoken to the most sexual it gets is them having some porn pictures of humanoid characters with animal-like characteristics. So... big deal, right?
And it's -definitely- not about sex with animals, that's something entirely different known as zoophilia.
Hope that clears a few things up.
Why do people hate furries? Because unlike other fetishists, furries take their bizarre sexual proclivity towards people resembling animals and they turn it into a lifestyle. There are plenty of people out there who have other weird fetishes like foot fetishes and scat fetishes ...but you don't see them gallivanting around dressed as giant feet or giant pieces of shit! It's the extroverted, in-your-face nature of the subculture that seems to rub many people the wrong way.
The internet? I hear that have that on computers now.
But seriously, people hate furries because a) they need to hate somebody to feel big, and furries have made a good collective target because b) they tend to react by flinching and squirming, which just makes them more fun to beat up and score 'internet-tough-guy' points off.
If the fandom just grew some balls and stopped crying persecution, it wouldn't be the 'free point' on internet hate bingo anymore.
I also suggest that its sometimes a somewhat more PC way to hate homosexuals. Its a fact that homosexuals are overrepresented in the furry fandom (that is, there is a higher percent of gay dudes and ladies in the fandom than there are in the broader world). Also 'furry culture' is, overall, a safe place to be out (well, safer than most). So bear that in mind next time the 'furfag' stuff starts up.
XD, do a barrel roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLOCK-T3TaQ
I dress up like in an animal costume and I'm trying to justify it to the rest of the world.
Who gives a fuck if people don't like what you do. Go do what makes you happy (as long as it doesn't hurt other people).
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enjoy :D
My friend, if not best friend that I've known since elementary is a furry. I have nothing wrong with that, whatever it's a fucking fetish no big deal
Now furries that pretend to be animals and dislike humans... that's just incredibly retarted and I wish those who do such indeed yiff in hell. mshift, pshift, ctrl-shift whatever the hell-shift i don't give a shit, that all is made up in your head and hating a species that you indeed are is unfathomably stupid
Where the hell's neonie?
"So bear that in mind next time the 'furfag' stuff starts up."
Oh God, please tell me that pun was intended.
Lets just say it was, and its not like I fucked up a homonym.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Oh the lols that would of been had.
Had to be done.
I'm a furry and I know exactly why half the internet hates furries. It simply boils down to the fact that a vast majority of furries spend 20% of their time being furries and the other 80% of the time bitching and whining about the shit they get for bitching and whining about it.
Bottom line, a lot of (but not all) furries are raging douchebags.
Now come on Neonie, enter the thread for the sake of all of us.
OMG bloods coming out! My brain!
Where can I get a copy of this bingo? It sounds like the best game ever.
Also, I agree with some other comments: you whine about it so much, try to defend it to everyone you meet, do it out in the open, and generally act amazingly proud of it, unlike pretty much every other fetish. Do you like it? Good for you, keep it inside.
An exception: while your fully anthropomorphized cats are disgusting furries, "actual" cat girls are very fappable:
Because it's a culture of people who have latched on to characterizing themselves as animals. It's one of those things where people who are rejects will flock to it because all they need to do to gain acceptance is say "I'm a fox!" and suddenly they are a part of some "community".
If you told most people in real life that you identify with cartoon animals they would rightly call you a fucking weirdo.
No one was a furry before they had internet access... it's a manufactured subculture. Furries don't come to the internet to find acceptance... losers come to the internet and become furries for acceptance.
Agreed whole-heartedly. Some people have no goddamn decorum whatsoever, and not just the furs, but the otaku/weeaboo set, 'hardcore' gamers, and scifi/comic nerds.
Its embarrassing to be associated with any of them because while your rank and file subculture enthusiast might understand that some things are best kept private, there is always a vocal handful that just can't seem to stop themselves from making asses of themselves in public.
We have all seen them - dressing up in costumes in public, crying about how people stereotype anime nerds as cartoon-fapping-pedos, showing off their lard-asses and piles of empty mountain dew bottles as a badge of gamer pride, buying toys and whining like children about adaptations, memorizing and repeating for the cameras made up specs about fictional space craft, and generally validating every bias and prejudice that the 'straights and squares' of the world might hold against geeks.
These fuckers should learn to keep it to themselves, stop shoving in people's faces, and stop drawing undue attention and criticism to the majority of otherwise healthy geeks.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is that dressing up in public isn't exactly the WORST thing someone can do EVER, and furries aren't alone in their particular weirdness. All the other stuff Stahlbrand just described? Well, they sound like idiots. Have a go at them, sure. When you start thinking things like: 'This furry I saw was stupid and creepy and perverted, so that's what furries are like' that's very lazy thinking, and is the sort of closed-minded approach that in other situations, many gamers would complain against.
You don't have to love everything every furry does to avoid being a hypocrite, not at all, but you do have to consider: 'Am I talking from an informed perspective, or am I just guessing?'
Im seeing alot of different answers here, from just finding it disgusting on the level of someone pretending to be an animal, to being completely misinformed from what the media has yet again, generalized very vaguely. (they seem to be VERY good at that, cause apparently 4chan is a secret underground hacker site :p)
Furries, are very creative people, who when told to grow up, told that the world does not accept an adult that can still watch cartoons, and told to let go of our Childhood, they just say "no" and go about they're merry way. That is it, that is all.
We grew up on Bugs Bunny and the Roadrunner, with Wile E. Coyote, Tweety, Sylvester, and the crazy bastard who made them: Chuck Jones, was indeed, the most hardcore furry you could imagine, as he also ACTED like his creations.
And this was way before the internet folks.
Dont tell me youve forgotten Roger Rabbit already? Sonic the Hedgehog? Acro the Acrobat?
What about Charlie and Itchy from All Dogs go to Heaven?
We all grew up with these in our childhoods, i didn't even mention any Disney characters, as that would be too easy.
But didn't you ever, as a kid, pretend to be an animal at one point? Let your imagination run wild while you imagined you were a Velocoraptor hunting his prey?
i can almost guarantee we all have at some point.
Thats all a furry is, its not so much as not wanting to let go of the past, its a way of saying "i dont want to be a mindless drone that the world wants me to be", and this is just one way of going about that, it doesn't make us any less of an adult, in fact, furries are mostly responsible for alot of entertainment in this world, whether its TV, Movies, Video Games, or even Halloween costumes.
I do wish to point out a few quotable quote from the replies here
hehe I know how you feel. I'm a furry and can get frustrated by the furry hate. But in reality it's really just immature bullying for people that take things out of context. But it's really best to ignore those people. There's too many good people in the world to pay attention to the DBs out there.
im not necessarily frustrated with the hate, ive gotten desensitized to it, what WAS getting annoying was the Follow-The-Leader-Aimlessly malarky every brainless pigeon on the internet seemed to act upon.
Rich 'Lowtax' Kyanka says Furries are gross, BAM instantly everyone at SA, whether they hated before or not, became 100% Goons vs. Furries. I worked with a goon, NOTHING but propaganda, and he wasn't even aware of what i was apart of :p
[i]I read this whole post and all I got out of it was, ...
I dress up like in an animal costume and I'm trying to justify it to the rest of the world. [/i]
now see, thats where you fail :) While i may be apart of the fandom (big shocker there), i will not even consider the suiting business, personally, even i find it a bit weird :p
If you told most people in real life that you identify with cartoon animals they would rightly call you a fucking weirdo.
That is a big vague dude, it really depends where you are first of all. If i said that to another Animator (which i am), id get accolades, and actually, that has happened :p
If i told random jo-schmo whome id never met before in some random coffee shop
"HURH i liek cartewn animals" then yeah id totally expect that kind of retort :p Which is why, and most people have said, you should keep to yourself on personal matters.
Anyways, i haven't read through the comments entirely, i plan to do so in the morning, and ill be writing a followup entry on my thoughts on the whole matter afterward.
ps. i dunno whether it was satirical, or some of you genuinely thought i was bawling and complaining, rest assured that is not the case, im just looking for some answers, not sympathy :p Hate me all you want for the sole fact i represent myself online as an anthropomorphic Coyote, i just cant bring myself to care too wholeheartedly, but im a man who loves to understand the substance behind the en'mass emotional drive towards things. And im not afraid to ask. This is the internet afterall, and what a wonderful tool it is!
That is all, and good night :)
someone above mentioned something about "pretending to be an animal and hating humans" or something. Yeah i find that fucked up too.
Though i am a bit of a misanthrope, but for very very VERY different reasons.
It's not the dressing up. It's the people that dress up mentally as well as physically.
not that there aren't other things that I think are weird about furries. But I'm trying to be nice.
As long as you don't act like a creepy fur, no one will care if you are or not.