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Co-op Story Modes - a long discussion
CronosBlade | 2:42 PM on 09.12.2007 23 comments




Co-op gaming. Or rather, how my wife and I spend our time

Multiplayer gaming. Look at where we are today. Xbox Live, PSN, and of course PC gaming. Right now I’m just going to focus on consoles. And especially with this generation of consoles, there’s a large increase of online gamers and we’re even to a point where people will look at a game and say ‘But does it have multiplayer?’. And the game itself has to be able to survive that comment (say Bioshock for the most part).

Let’s talk about the history of multiplayer gaming. Back in the old days, it was 2 player. Then we moved to split screen. Then 4 player and multitaps. Xbox brought about LAN and internet play (though of course there were others before, I’ll use them as the best case), DS and PSP have ad-hoc and online. But for a while there, something got lost along the way. Co-op play started to suffer.

So go back to our roots. Back in the NES/SNES/Genesis days, if a game said 1-2 players it was usually co-op. Sure some were take turns (say Pac-man) but most of the time it was team. Contra, TMNT Arcade, Final Fight, Streets of Rage to name some of the bigger ones. Any of the old beat em ups were usually 2 players.

Look at recently, where PS2/Xbox which had another genre, the dungeon crawler. We had Champions of Norath, Baldur’s Gate, D+D heroes. All from the same formula like our old side scrolling fighters, but all co-op. The problem was, we actually hit a wall where there was little to no more co-op story modes coming.

Now, with all this online gaming, co-op is not as high up on the to do list as it once was. If a game has multiplayer, it’s mainly deathmatch and vs. play. Now you can argue that this a form of co-op, you’re part of a team trying to achieve a goal, but is it really? This isn’t the old days of story mode being co-op. And to be fair, there are some games out there that allow it. Halo, Gears, R6:Vegas, DW series, Xmen/Marvel etc..but my wife and I have noticed that those games have diminished. One main reason for this is that games are too graphically intensive now.

With the move from co-op to vs. play, skill now means disparity. Back then, you helped your little brother out if he was getting beat up. Now, you’re shooting him but because his skill isn’t as good as yours, it’s not really a challenge. My friends come over all the time and get annoyed by me shooting them up. Now in co-op, unless you decide to go for the bad ending in Streets of Rage, you’re not playing against each other.

Luckily for us, these games are getting released again, mainly on XBL. 2 player Streets of Rage and 4 player TMNT brings back those memories and that team mentality. And that’s why I love co-op play. My wife and I play all the time, and she’ll readily admit that her skill isn’t close to mine. This is why we wait for Halo 3, for a chance to sit down and play side by side again (maybe even online with others thanks to 4 player co-op) and play against the game, not each other. But I hope to see more of these in the future.

As much fun as versus play is, I’d like to play games with my daughter one day where I can assist her in 2 player mode, much like my cousins did with me when I was younger. Of course, if she follows in my footsteps, you’ll be hearing her over your Live headset in a few years cussing like her old man. And that would make me proud.



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Toneman's Destructoid Blog
I love co-op games. More games need co-op.
Cowzilla3's Destructoid Blog
Chronos there can only be one long discussion per day and I already covered that. Unfortunatlye for this rule your long discussion is also interesting.

I would rather play co-op over almost an vs. game. I like helping my frineds more than shooting them and working together just always seems more fun than apart. Though the trash talk does die down, not completely since I'll trash talk the computer but it does.
bhive01's Destructoid Blog
I agree with Toneman.

But, I'm still not happy about the KitKat incident.
bhive01's Destructoid Blog
Needs a photo though Cronos.
CronosBlade's Destructoid Blog
Working on it....
Justice's Destructoid Blog
I love co-op also, nothing like playing a great game with your bud(s) together
=]
ZekeThePlumber's Destructoid Blog
We need more 2D co-op games. Maybe Contra DS will be our swan song.
JACK of No Trades's Destructoid Blog
I remember Perfect Dark Co-Op, It was pure goodness!
Toneman's Destructoid Blog
Oh come on bhive, GIVE ME A BREAK!

HAHAHAHHAHA get it?!?
mad cow's Destructoid Blog
I'm with the co-op crowd on this one. (This has nothing to do with me getting my ass handed to me anytime I play R6:V in sharpshooter mode. Nothing at all.)
bhive01's Destructoid Blog
Yeah, some of my greatest arcade experiences were co-op fighters like TMNT and XMEN. Double Dragons was good, as was Contra. I hated when my friends would die and use my guys though. Battletoads was pretty cool co-op too.

How much do you think this is going to make a come back?

I mean Gears does it. I think Resistance does too, but I've never tried. Is it just going to be FPS games...
Rockvillian's Destructoid Blog
mmmm... Left 4 Dead.

Too bad my lady doesn't have a good enough rig to play with me though.
bhive01's Destructoid Blog
ZOMG! That was great Tone. You're forgiven.
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
I agree with Bhive. And the kitkat incedint is forgiven.
itemforty's Destructoid Blog
I attended a class on "Getting your game on XBLA" at the Austin GDC last week, and the guy giving the presentation said that Co-Op games were popular.

Oh, are they? HURRRRR

It took every inch of my strength to keep from ripping through the crowds and slapping the bastard.

The rest of the presentation was interesting though.
masterledz's Destructoid Blog
These days, I am completely addicted to co-op multiplayer. It's a step in the right direction to make gaming more accessible to even casual gamers (ZOMG, CASUAL?! BLASPHEMY!!). It adds a whole other reason to game; to enjoy, interact and discuss with other players.

Good write-up.
kawitchate's Destructoid Blog
BioShock sequel: co-op or multiplayer? discuss.
nilcam's Destructoid Blog
I seek out co-op games so that my wife and I can play. The Lego Star Wars games were really good for that and Super Mario World is a blast as co-op. I'm dying for the DS Crystal Chronicles to come to the US, solely for the multi-player.

Lately, she's gotten pretty good at a few fighting games - her 3rd Strike Chun-Li can bring the pain and her KoF Kula Diamond is a terrifying beast made of speed.
balth's Destructoid Blog
I love co-op games.

Resistance: Fall of Man has it, and it's great. I've made it farther in that (beaten) than I have single player.

And what's more, I prefer more social gaming.

I shall blog on this tomorrow, while I'm supposed to be working.

Good article!

That is all.
Gato's Destructoid Blog
I always prefer Co-op story mode over the usual VS. modes. Army of two looks like it'll be a good co-op game.
Eschatos's Destructoid Blog
Co-op is nice, but it doesn't show up in PC gaming much, so I don't use it. Army of Two looks to be based on it, though a lot of people say it's not that great. Now 4 player co-op with Halo 3 sounds freakin sweet.
DynamicSheep's Destructoid Blog
I hope they have team melee (with 4 to a team on bigger maps) if SSBB is online.
Alaphic's Destructoid Blog
I wish co-op showed up more in PC. My roommate in college and I spent a lot of time playing Champions of Norrath on the ps2, and looking for a good RPG that was co-op (and not Diablo). Of course, we didn't find one.

It is a lot more fun to play [i]with[\i] your friends than it is to play against them; or at least to have the option to do so.


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