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Five is the loneliest number.
CountingConflict | 8:06 PM on 08.12.2008 40 comments


Five is the loneliest number .. or "How Microsoft is slowly turning a neutral gamer into a Sony fanboy."

Before you ask, yes, this is my obligatory Red Ring of Death post. Today, Xbox 360 number 5 decided to take a shit on me. The repair process isn't that bad living in Texas, mainly because their repair center is located in McAllen, Texas. However, getting my gaming console back up to par with the previous one is always a long and tedious process. Seeing that this will be my sixth console, and obviously the fifth time that I've had to go through the process of restoring my 360 to normal.



The first time my Xbox 360 died, I wasn't too upset with the prospect of sending it off for repair. I had little-to-no DLC on my 360 at the time, and I was just ecstatic that they had just extended the warranty for the RROD. The wait-time was pretty excruciating, but I had a pretty satisfying experience. They even returned my original xbox with what I assume was a new heatsink/processor combo.

However, that console broke within the next 3 months, and thus started a vicious cycle of poor customer service and extreme frustration. The average lifespan of the refurbished consoles became so short, that I actually purchased two of my five previous consoles out of pocket to save time and frustration. The funny thing is whenever I would spend my own money to buy a new system, I would run into a boatload of DRM issues with Mircrosoft. One time it took me 2 1/2 months to get the DRM transferred from my old xbox to one that I had bought. Here are just a few of the nagging problems that I have with Microsoft at this point in time.

1. The three-year RROD warranty doesn't reset every time you have to send in your console (every three months!). Therefore, when MS sends you a console that has a manufacturing date older than your last console, you are screwed out of the warranty difference between consoles.

2. I'm certainly not alone in saying that Microsoft's DRM issues are the work of Satan himself. I am a social gamer, and I like to bring my 360 with me to my friends' houses for parties and whatnot. It is extremely frustrating to be told that I can't access over 300 dollars worth of overpriced downloadable content, especially when that wait extends past the quoted 2 weeks. No one should have to wait more than a month for their DLC to be accessible again.

3. Microsoft's customer service department (Indian and American) is filled with the biggest bunch of incompetent assholes this side of the universe. They pretend that they understand what you are going through, but haven't the slightest clue how to fix any of your issues in a timely manner. No, I'm not upset that this console is broken, but I AM upset that I've spent over two grand on consoles that have a three month lifespan. I even cut down my playing time on my latest 360 elite to about 5 hours a week. The customer service department can't even guarantee me that I won't get a console that effectively shortens my warranty.



Needless to say, I am through with Microsoft's shoddy customer service, ridiculously long DRM transfer waits, and sub par console manufacturing. I'm going to get my new xbox 360 in the mail, and immediately sell it (along with the ~300 dollars of DLC on the hard drive) to someone in my neighborhood. Once an admitted Microsoft fanboy (as you can tell by the amount of money I've spent on consoles and content....~2000 dollars not including disc-based games) this gamer is considering greener pastures with other consoles.

The Playstation 3 not only has better functionality as a media center, but you can also load Linux on it. The Playstation Network is rapidly improving with the addition in-game XMB, and the quality of the overall experience server-wise has improved vastly since release. Sure I'll miss some great games coming from Microsoft's console (Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 anyone?) , but I've neglected the need to "cut-and-run" for far too long. Hell... I might even play the Nintendo Wii that has been collecting dust in my entertainment center for the past year.


..until Sony screws me over.

My question to the rest of the 360 owners on this site is, "How long are you going to put up with a company that clearly doesn't have your best interest in mind?". Microsoft can blow all the PR smoke up your ass by telling you that they have an unprecedented 3 year warranty on their consoles, but they wouldn't have even offered it if they weren't facing multiple class-action lawsuits at the time.

I'm done with Microsoft until they can restore my faith in their company, and honestly, you should be too.



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Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 21:55
Y0j1mb0
Welcome to the FIVE RROD club ... I'm not only a member..I'm the CEO.

This elusive fraternity coincidentally created my preference for the PS3.
Jesse Cortez's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 21:57
Jesse Cortez
Dude...the repair center is in Mcallen? I grew up 40 minutes from there!!!

Anyway, sorry to hear about your 3shitty :(. Microsoft really needs to get their act together
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 21:58
MrSadistic
Well, dang. From reading this blog, I reckon' the PS3 crowd is more of a cult. That's okay I suppose, as long as I don't get butt raped in the end.

Oh and sorry about your loss, M$ sux, the PS3 is awesome etc. etc.
shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 21:59
shipero
I believe that Kansas puts it better than I could ever hope to...
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:00
CountingConflict
@MRSADISTIC

I believe that the butt-raping is yet another XBOX 360 exclusive. Let's just hope that they didn't pay millions to get the rights to it.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:03
RonBurgandy2010
We should have a letter writing campaign, it worked for Family Guy.






I'm not kidding, let's do this.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:08
aborto thefetus
HAHA!!!

still on my second one. my other 360 went to console heaven with my old gamecube, sega genesis, Ps1, and Snes.

I consider myself lucky because I haven't had a really hard time with my 360. all my consoles have died at one point in time and I'm glad my 360 didn't pass that one death point.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:08
CountingConflict
@RONBURGANDY2010

The only thing that seems to work with Microsoft is starting a hate blog or sending in your complaint to consumer advocates like the Consumerist. They don't actually care about their customers. They only care about the bad PR possibly slowing the sales of their product.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:11
RonBurgandy2010
Well, call them out on it. There has to be some way to make this an uber-public scandal. You know how the media loves to throw things out of proportion. If we can get the media behind this, we WILL have better consoles in two months tops. I guarantee it.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:15
F Whipple
You have my sympathies
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:20
Y0j1mb0
Oh Ron,

You must be young. I hate to break this to you but there is no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the media doesn't care about Joe Shmo... just Senators fucking around on their cancer stricken wives and Celebrity babies.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:20
Y0j1mb0
Oh Ron,

You must be young. I hate to break this to you but there is no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the media doesn't care about Joe Shmo... just Senators fucking around on their cancer stricken wives and Celebrity babies.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:22
MrSadistic
just e-mail MS or make a blog saying that the 360 illegally fondled your butt so you can get some free MS points and call it a day
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:26
CountingConflict
What I'm thinking about doing is crapping in the return box. It would be a moral victory.
kami's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:31
kami
Sorry for your many losses....

The part that makes me cringe every time I hear it is that 360 owners actually limit their playtime to cut down on RROD as you tried. That seriously blows my mind. I would hate to actually have to tell myself to stop playing in fear that my console could brick.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:34
CountingConflict
@KAMI

I completely agree with you. I feel like MS is kicking me while I'm down. It is insulting that they haven't done anything to fix this sooner.
Gantz's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:39
Gantz
@CountingConflict
FYI,
Plastic Bag taped firmly under where they would cut through the tape of the box.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:40
Alexradl
My thoughts and prayers go out to your family and friends. 5? Wow, that's brutal...very very brutal.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 22:56
CountingConflict
@Gantz

Sounds like you have experience. =)
nebones's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:03
nebones
I'm yet to RROD, yay!
Gantz's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:05
Gantz
@CountingConflict
Sure sounds like it, lol.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:07
Usedtabe
Sorry to hear about your troubles, but as someone who still has two original 360's still running flawlessly(for over 2 years), I have no regrets. On the other hand, My PS2's were piece's of shit, so I don't trust Sony either. Hopefully you have better luck with the PS3.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:11
Y0j1mb0
CONFIRMED: Usedtabe doesn't play his 360s much.
Electro Lemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:14
Electro Lemon
No RROD, launch box- feels good, maaan.
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:16
CountingConflict
@ Lemon

Actually, I had my launch console the longest. It wasn't until they started trying to cut costs that they started producing shoddy consoles.
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:48
Puppy Licks
Ring Microsoft and complain a whole lot, even threaten to get a PS3. They will cave and send you a while bunch of complimentary stuff for your troubles.
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2008 23:50
Puppy Licks
Oh and Cobra: You're tempting fate man, I commented something similar when Yojimbo's 360 red ringed and that weekend my 360 red ringed too. Karma sucks balls :P
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 00:13
naia-the-gamer
I think Cobra just put a hex on his 360.

I just experience my first RROD a month and a half ago. Sorry to hear you've had to deal with it so many times.
BonfireAg03's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 00:17
BonfireAg03
I'm on number three in two years. Two RRODs, and the video out crapped out Saturday of the TX NARP (D'oh!). Just got my system back last week, and I'm dealing with the DRM issues myself. Nothing that's going to traumatize me for years, but damn it, man, I want to play my Braid!
The Bez's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 00:57
The Bez
30th comment GET!!!!
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 01:16
Usedtabe
I shit you not, after making the no red ring comment, I just went to turn on my Elite. Fucking Red rings. It really must be some voodoo to mention not having the red-ring
CountingConflict's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 01:40
CountingConflict
@ USEDTABE

LOL that sucks bro. Sorry to hear about your loss.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 02:04
randombullseye
Mine likes to not come on when I turn it on and occasionally has one red light in the bottom corner. I don't know why it does this, but sometimes it can take upwards of five tries to get it on. I asked on an xbox forum and they said it was the first stages of failure. :(

I like my xbox quite a bit. I think I would actually shed a single tear of blood if anything were to happen to him. Let alone happen five times.
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 03:47
kawitchate
while i haven't gotten a red ring, my first console gave me the dreaded "disc read error" after only 6 months, and now this "new" refurbished one they sent back is starting to go after only 9 months. i swear, if i get a disc read error AND NO red ring, and then they tell me it's NOT covered under the extended warranty, i'm going to go ape shit.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 05:21
Takeshi
What a bitch Mr. Conflict. A real bitch.
nanowerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 07:53
nanowerx
Even recently getting a RRoD, the threat that it could happen again andhaving to deal with Microsoft customer service... I'd still rather play my 360 over my PS3
groebo's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 10:44
groebo
I hate sony as much as I hate apple with all their special bullshit but, in the long run, their shit works =).. I've thought about getting a 360 because there are some games that I just really want to play but its posts like this that keep my wallet velro-tight... oh and there is the paying money to kill people online, that's bullshit
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 11:00
Char Aznable
Damn, Usedtabe, that's freaky. Sorry about your 360.

Luckily, mine still hasn't...nevermind. Shutting up now.
Inexpressticality's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 13:32
Inexpressticality
I've only had one die on me, though it wasn't the typical RRoD. A little piece of plastic near the disk drive melted and started scratching all of my disks. I lost about six games, and my Xbox 360 for a year due to Canada and it's shitty international shipping services. Also, I very much respect the beard.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/13/2008 15:50
TrailerParkJesus
"What I'm thinking about doing is crapping in the return box. It would be a moral victory."

Please do this. I want to hear about it on the news.
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