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**RUMORTOID** PS3 SOFTMOD FOUND
CountingConflict | 10:16 AM on 01.23.2010 52 comments




Engadget is reporting that infamous iPod/iPhone hacker, George Hotz, has found a method of accessing the PS3's system memory without the use of a modchip. If true, this could compromise the PS3's previously untouchable security measures.

Hotz claims that his method isn't easily patchable, but he doesn't want to show anyone until he refines the process.

When asked for a comment, Conor Hogan replied, "OH SNAP!!!!!!!"

Engadget's article HERE



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randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 10:31
randombullseye
If he reveals that PS2 games can be played, I'll yell and scream and sit here and play video games.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:06
Xzyliac
This is perhaps the greatest news I've heard all week. Seriously. Keep us updated.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:17
Aurain
Should keep it to himself, because Sony will bring in Firmware to counteract his advances, despite how hard it is supposedly to patch.

Big Firmware changes = chance to brick.
No ones going to Pirate PS3 games because they're Blu-ray. I can do the rest of the shit I can do on my PS3 on a laptop or a PS2.

It's a good idea, but not entirely necessary.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 11:50
ChronosWing
@Aurain

Most people who softmod won't bother upgrading firmware, they will stick with custom firmware's.
Also everyone will not have a problem pirating games just because they are blu-ray, once the soft mod goes public it won't be long before you can just run iso's from the hard drive.
Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 12:10
Jamie McGinn
He really did say "OH SNAP!!!!!!!"
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 12:36
pedrovay2003
@Chronos

Sticking with old firmware works with the Wii, but it's going to suck not being able to play online on the PS3 because you won't update.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 12:42
ChronosWing
@Pedro

It's a trade off for most people honestly, free games or online play, most people will go with free games. Plus if they get custom firmware going it won't really matter.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 12:55
Xzyliac
@Aurain
I highly doubt this is (A) his normal playing PS3 and (B) connected to the interwebs.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 13:52
Aurain
Not the point I'm making.

The softmods come out, They'll release Mandatory firmware to fix the loophole. Regardless of whether the modders are going to update.
Complications could arise from the changes they make to counter-act it. That's the problem I have with it.

It probably won't happen, but the prevention is alot cheaper than the cure.
mourning orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 14:03
mourning orange
George Hotz is a fucking pimp
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 14:15
Elsa
I agree that Sony will just issue a new patch... not patching means not being able to play online and not being able to play new games that release (which often require updated firmware) so this is a huge deterrent (in fact many older games also won't play if they've been updated at all and also require updated firmware). People would basically have to buy a second PS3 to use any mods of this sort... and the cost likely isn't worth the minor gains of being able to play a few older PS3 games for free (especially given the massive downloads and possible requirement of a Bluray burner.)

meh... not really worth it.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 16:20
king3vbo
Oh hell yes
sheppy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 16:30
sheppy
And once again, the chains come off. If this goes public, I give it two weeks at most before the gaming community proves it just cannot be trusted yet again.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 18:28
Xzyliac
@Aurain
Yeah I figured out what you meant about 5 seconds after hitting "Add Comment."
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 18:49
Qraze
yeah! i've seen alot of so-called cracks that went nowhere fast but this kid is a genius and it sounds like success. if what he's saying is true, sony can't patch it but can do a later hardware revision to fix it. almost time for super powered linux use.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 23:30
Jon B
"isn't really patchable, but [Sony] can make implementations much harder,"
Well, I'm glad they used Blurays simply for curbing mass piracy now. Looks like that when this is out, it's going to open a huge can of worms.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 00:25
ChronosWing
@Elsa

Not true, as I see you don't know much about this area, 90% of games no matter how new they are can just have their update folders removed from the iso and it will work on older firmware's without an upgrade. The PSP custom firmware is stuck on 5.5 right now and most new games can still be played on the firmware even though most games are requiring 6.0 and above. Where there is a will there is a way so they say, nothing will stop hacker's.
Riegel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 01:05
Riegel88
I would rather pay for the games and support them, not run them out of business, then all we would have is a big ass white box that breaks every other month. No thanks.
Tha_Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 01:25
Tha_Meat
Hackers are scurvy little dogs. I wish they would use their brain power and apply it to something that would benefit the human race. Right now, if this is legit, its just going to be more annoying for me and all the others who don't want to hack the PS3, and be submitted to firmware updates every 2 days.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 02:36
ChronosWing
@Tha Meat

Ironically most of these hackers are involved in some kind of software engineering field and just do this stuff on the side. Saving people's/company's computers from other hacker's during the day, helping hackers crack code by night.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 03:06
Qraze
Tha Meat

why shouldn't we be able to do what we want with something we paid alot of money for?
they do whatever they want with our money.

if piracy was this major industry problem as they would make you believe, then companies wouldn't release a godam thing on the pc. zilch. nothing at all because they would loss more money then they put in.

i want the features i want in my ps3, not the features sony thinks i should have. i want a better browser, i want to store files on my hdd, i want to be able to download a wmv video and have it work, i want to play my saturn games on my ps3, i could care less about new games. i want to play my old ones.

but i guess me finding a copy of xenogears for $85 is just as good huh?

these publishers make their money off their games in the first year they put them out and if they can't make profit, they wouldn't be making games.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 08:35
lewness
If he's going for it, he better do it right and not make the biggest brick in the world.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 09:06
EdgyDude
If this is true then when it's officially released there will be no going back, once a console has been cracked firmware updates are useless since they can be countered by hackers in weeks sometimes even days, even if an update managed to fully patch the problem pirates would just keep making revisions of the exploit to make new games work on old firmwares.

Personally though i don't support piracy i have to admit sometimes is a [url=http://www.destructoid.com/fatal-frame-iv-fan-translation-patch-is-a-go-160832.phtml]necesary evil[url], also the whole "piracy is killing the industry" is the biggest bullshit ever on ANY industry.

How can sales numbers go up every Goddamn year is such a claim is true? "they dropped last year!" some will say, yeah, we had a world recession remember? "But look at the declining sales of music!" bullshit, the reason numbers dropped is that now we can cherry-pick the tunes we like instead of being forced into buying a whole 12$ CD for 2 or 3 tunes.

The more the industry tries to impose their practices to milk the consumer the more quickly piracy will appear. The same goes for limiting what you can do with your hardware. To this day i have to wonder how can the Wii be #1 with limited horsepower and a relatively easy way to implement homebrew while Sony being the powerhouse of this gen and (so far) totally hack proof be #3. Maybe it's a crazy theory, but maybe piracy [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music]does help raise sales[/ur] instead of curbing them.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 09:07
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FIXED POST

If this is true then when it's officially released there will be no going back, once a console has been cracked firmware updates are useless since they can be countered by hackers in weeks sometimes even days, even if an update managed to fully patch the problem pirates would just keep making revisions of the exploit to make new games work on old firmwares.

Personally though i don't support piracy i have to admit sometimes is a necesary evil, also the whole "piracy is killing the industry" is the biggest bullshit ever on ANY industry.

How can sales numbers go up every Goddamn year is such a claim is true? "they dropped last year!" some will say, yeah, we had a world recession remember? "But look at the declining sales of music!" bullshit, the reason numbers dropped is that now we can cherry-pick the tunes we like instead of being forced into buying a whole 12$ CD for 2 or 3 tunes.

The more the industry tries to impose their practices to milk the consumer the more quickly piracy will appear. The same goes for limiting what you can do with your hardware. To this day i have to wonder how can the Wii be #1 with limited horsepower and a relatively easy way to implement homebrew while Sony being the powerhouse of this gen and (so far) totally hack proof be #3. Maybe it's a crazy theory, but maybe piracy does help raise sales instead of curbing them.
Pablo Contreras's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 13:48
Pablo Contreras
its a crazy theory, no doubt.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 14:23
Qraze
we need a comment editor lol.

i do have to hand it to sony for making the ps3 such a raw nigh un-killable beast of hardware. the man who's hacking this beast is something else all entirely, he's absolutely the stuff legends are made of.
Tha_Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 15:24
Tha_Meat
@Qraze

At what point did I mention piracy?
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/24/2010 15:48
Qraze
"Hackers are scurvy little dogs".

that's pirate inuendo. lol.
squirrelyg's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2010 00:59
squirrelyg
While this may be interesting even if it where possible who in their right mind would want to spend a week to download mgs4 or other games of that size. Also if this does happen then things Like valkyria chronicles would have never even had the chance for a psp sequal.
burnblaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2010 05:00
burnblaze
@squirrelyg

I would suspect that most of the early games (MotorStorm, MGS4, Uncharted) will contain padding to fillout that disc size much like the early PSP games used padding to fill out a UMD and discourage downloads.

That said, with the PSP, Sony did NOT lose out - they made millions from both sales and licencing for the MemoryStick Pro Duo.... Which also meant that money was spent researching the higher capacities of MSPRODuo.
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