OK, I just have to rant here, I know this is not a new problem, but it is really fucking annoying. This problem existed before I got my new 360, but for some reason I didn't mind as much back then, but now that I've had to deal with the Red Ring I guess I have become more and more impatient.
Why the
fuck do 360 discs get scratched so easily? I take very good care of my shit, I live in a house with other responsible guys, and my discs don't come anywhere near being "abused". Yet, my Halo 3 disc is messed up to where I can't play The Pit in multiplayer, and more recently my CoD4 disc has become unable to play several multiplayer levels. Rock Band has also become pretty beaten up, not to the point of fucking up songs(thank God), but it still makes me angry having to look at a scratched back of a disc when I know it has only been in either the 360 or the case. In all my years of gaming, I have only had two game cd's that have gotten so fucked up that the gameplay suffers, and they were two early released PS1 games (Tomba! and SaGa Frontier), and that was back when I lived with my younger brothers, who were apt to be rough with things of mine.
Is the 360 scratching them? My 360 remains horizontal, as I've always been terrified of it being vertical and getting tipped over. As I said earlier, my games literally are constantly either in the 360 or a case. And really the thing that pisses me off the most is that I know the only options I have (concerning the Halo 3 and CoD4 disc) are to go buy new copies if I want to play some hassle-free multiplayer. RAGE!
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is yours standing up or is it laying flat?
I heard standing them up causes it more frequently but that could be an urban legend type deal.
that's just bullshit :/
That seemed to happen with my PS2 discs. No matter how I kept them, the discs always seemed to get dirty and kind of scratched. Such is life?
I've found standing them up causes hella problems.
I've had to replace my Rock Band disc twice. And that is the game I play the most often.
Try scratching your disks before your xbox has a chance to do it. That'll show it.
I feel your pain coon... I've decided to buy the Playstation version of any multi-platform game specifically for this reason. My 360 is vertical, and it's not that it scratches the disks, I'm just CONSTANTLY getting Disc Read Errors. It's so bad with Dead Rising that I never finished the game because I'd get through some absurdly difficult section, and have the game DRE on me before I could save. And like I said, I don't even see any scratches on my discs... I'll just hear the disc spin really fast, and then that damn "boop" sound that tells me I can't play my game anymore unless I get up and eject the game, only to put it right back in and have it magically be readable.
I'd heard of the standing 360 thing too. Not to mention that when you do stand them up, you block one of the intakes for the fan, so that very well could be the reason why some people get Red Ringed as well.
So yeah. Horizontal Xbox good; Vertical bad.
"My 360 remains horizontal, as I've always been terrified of it being vertical and getting tipped over."
Horizontal=sideways people...I try doing it right, I still just manage to fail. :(
Lay the original xbox on the 360. Maybe your 360 just needs some lovin'?
I keep mine verticle and havent had a single problem with scratched discs.
same fucking concern.
why is my rock band disc so raped if i've treated it like a Fabergé Egg since i bought it.
What is with the Rock Band disc getting messed up so easily? I've done nothing but play mine and transport it safely in the case, and it's messed up to the point where it won't go past the intro screen.
@DynamicSheep
I get those sometimes too (not to the extent you do) and the occasional freezeup, but I think part of it is the quality of the disc. I bought Bioshock when it first came out and it would DRE like crazy and had a 1 minute lag whenever I picked up a plasmid. I exchanged it and there hasn't been a problem since.
All I can say is that my discs are fine. Well, so far.
MS does have a disc replacement program for games they publish; it's cheaper than buying a full new copy.
is it the perfect circle scratch? Because that's what a lot of 360's do, and there's not much you can do about those. If it's not I've been told pledge works as a good cleaning agent for fine surface scratches, I've never tried it tho. So good luck either way.
Yeah I stand mine up and no scratches so far. You might just have a bum dvd drive. Not the best made console of all time that is for sure. If it is still under the 1 year warranty you can send it away.
[url=http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/vexed+alex/i-thought-we-were-cool-xbox-360-70616.phtml]I know how you feel.[/ur]
Scratched discs? Are there any aspiring DJs in your household?
Go to a playNTrade or gamecrazy. They can restore some of your discs. Either the circle scratch or mini scratches theyll be able to fix em.
How the fuck did that fail?
I know how you feel
The 3 copies of GEARS OF WAR that I had are now all unreadable I feel your pain. Sucks!
Unless it's vertical, which you said it's not, I have no idea why they'd scratch randomly. However, I DO know that thanks to the way the disc drives in the 360s are made, if you LOOK at the system the wrong way discs are gonna scratch.
I've always used my 360 vertically. I'd just moved around the time that I got Blue Dragon, and it was laying horizontally post-move. I got disc-read error after disc-read error, I literally could not make it a tenth of the way between save points. On a whim, I turned it back to vertical (while it was off, mind you), and immediately it was like nothing was broken.
My developing unified field theory on disc-read errors was shattered, unfortunately, when my still vertical 360 went on to carve a circle into Mass Effect for its encore. I know all the data's intact, because I've managed a complete playthrough, and parts that freeze work fine three minutes later. But god damn, I can tell when an error has come a full minute in advance.
I've allways had my 360 laying flat, just for this reason, I haven't had any scratched disks (yet) and hope it stays that way...
sure sux for you to have this problem, I don't get that M$ isn't able to fix all this shit...
Does your local game store polish disks for you?
I also lay my 360 horizontal, and I haven't had any scratched disks. I don't understand why the 360 doesn't use the same disk tray system as the PS3 which has one of those ones where you just feed the disk into the console, rather than having a disk tray that slides outwards from it - some of you may know the technical term for it, unfortunately I don't. I understand these systems hold the disk more firmly, rather than the disk tray that tends to be looser and allow more movement.
Coon, I have had no problems with disc read errors or scratches. I would call MS and complain that the new system they just fixed for you is scratching your games to the point you can't play them.
Dammit COON I feel your pain. I've bought two copies of COD4, 3 copies of Gears, etc..
My 360 ate my first CoD4 and kept me from finishing single-player, so I ended up taking it back to Best Buy and returning it for another. I don't know why the 360 does this so much to people, but I have a damn good idea why. Hint: the spindle the disk goes on isn't level with the bottom of the reader.
I want to buy a 360, I really do, but this is the sort of stuff that keeps me away of the RRoD machine.
That is SCARY... ALL the stories in here of rebuying game discss because of scratches. WOW!
M$ make a quality repair or initial product!
( I have 68 PS3 games right NOW. NONE of them has a single scratch. & I've beat a Majority of them too. So during the play time on all these games, NO SCRATCHES! )
P.s.
I feel sorry for ANYONE, who has to rebuy any new Game...
I was always freaked out when I moved my 360 to a different room than it always is and I have to keep it vertical now due to saving space. I was really worried my discs were gonna get fucked up but honestly, nothing like that has happened and I really don't see how just flipping the console can effect your games.
The scratching is wear and tear
The 360 is full of problems other than the RRoD and this is just one of them. It's a problem with the disk drive especially if you have an older model 360 because the disks don't sit comfortably in them (by moving the disks in the slot when it's open you see this yourself) I had a friend who had to swap his 360 3 times due to scratch, my brother has once and so have I.
Placing the console vertically increases the risk of disk scratching but like the RRoD there's no real protection or prevention method. My brother keeps his 360 vertical and has no scratching problem anymore and I kept mine horizontal and still got a few scratches and a red ring the other night...
Talk about pure unadulterated bullshit
Rent the games from blockbuster, than switch the disks. Oh wait I didn't say that.