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Coonskin05 | 6:20 PM on 02.14.2008 17 comments




Look people, I have been looking forward to Banjo-Threeie a long time. A long fucking time. Though some people despise them, "widget collecting" games just do it for me. It started with Super Mario 64, and when Banjo 1 and 2 came out, I was in Heaven. I will admit that DK64 was a little over the top, but I still wasn't burnt out on the genre. So for two console generations I have been waiting for Banjo-Threeie.

Today, I don't know if that wait will be worth it. Rare has put some new details on its site, and while it may be good news for progressive gamers out there, doesn't sit well with a traditionalist such as myself. They start out the news with the statement that "Banjo won't be a shooter...but it also won't be a traditional platformer"

Fuck

FUCK

FUCK

Why penis why? I know the gaming world needs innovation, and I don't mind innovation, but do it with a new IP, not a legendary (though admittedly short) series.

Caving into peer pressure, Rare also says "We aren't in the business of crushing little boys' dreams so your multiplayer hopes will be answered." Now that might be great for people who bitched and moaned about Bioshock not having multiplayer, but let me tell you this. Not all games are meant to be played with a group of people. Sure, multiplayer can be fun, but not at the expense of a solid single-player mode.

I somewhat feel that if this game takes a new turn then the widget collecting genre will be all but dead. Don't do it Rare. Please.



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VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:37
VWGTI
While I won't jump the gun, it looks as if I'm getting closer and closer to throwing my 360 off a bridge. FUCK! They better not ruin it.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:39
king3vbo
NEEDS MOAR RANDOM COLLECTING
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:40
Samit Sarkar
Isn’t “widget-collecting” the definition of platforming? Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Mario...all those games are platformers, aren’t they? I don’t know; I’ve never played any of the Banjo-Kazooie games because I didn’t own an N64...
Coonskin05's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:43
Coonskin05
@Bronx

Uh, not really. Basically there's linear platforming and open platforming, the latter being the widget collecting one. Spyro is open(at least the ones that I played), Crash is linear, the early Marios were linear, taking the collecting turn with SM64. Banjo has always been open platforming and should remain as such.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:43
Bob Muir
Banjo-Tooie had multiplayer and the single-player was still great. I wouldn't be worried about that part.

Needless to say, it's possible for the "new Rare" to screw this up no matter what they do. If they release Banjo-Tooie again, the diehard fans will be satisfied, but there won't be any evolution in the series, and it could quickly go the way of fun series like Viewtiful Joe. Similarly, a radical departure would definitely alienate fans. Then again, who knows? Maybe the series needs a kick in the pants.

Whatever the result is, I just hope that the game is fun and true to the spirit of the first two games. That's what matters to me.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:44
EternalDeathSlayer
WTF? What the hell are you going to do then? That's what BK is all about. I admit, I'd prefer if they lessened your collecting requirements, but take them away entirely? This could be terrible, I agree.
mariohammer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:45
mariohammer
I really hope they keep it as a collecting useless items game. I really enjoyed it as they didn't over do it, and it's one of my favorite game series.
Jonathan Kerr's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:48
Jonathan Kerr
I really hope Rare's just saying that. Companies do that sometimes.

@Bronx: I think the definition of a platformer is a game in which you are pretty much 'free' to go anywhere you want. I suppose "widget-collecting" gives you a reason to move around. If they put a 'widget' on top of a mountain, you will want to get it.
Cyberxion's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:55
Cyberxion
I'm not big on fetch-quests myself, being a guy who doesn't have a lot of time to spend playing games.

That's not to say that I want linear progression in the next Banjo title, but I wouldn't fret too much if they nixed a large part of the collect-o-thon stuff from the previous games.

If they made it something akin to the 3-D Mario games, where collecting stuff was optional beyond the required stars, I think I could get behind that.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 18:57
Samit Sarkar
@coonskin05: Ah. Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I’m not too familiar with the original Spyro the Dragon, but I absolutely loved Spyro 2: Ripto’s Rage! and Spyro: Year of the Dragon on the PS1.
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 19:04
Puppy Licks
was never much of a banjo-kazooie fan to be honest, not to say they're bad I just never played the games.

But still if you're heartbroken come over to this dark corner I've found for jilted Rare fans. You'll know me, I'll be the guy sobbing gently in the corner holding a picture frame with the killer instinct cover in it :P
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 19:14
Clockwork
What can it possibly be if it's not a platformer?

And I totally agree about your multiplayer comment.
Atlas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 19:24
Atlas
I hope it is like the last 2 because we have not seen them for so long it just won't feel like it is burning itself out, not yet.
Big Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/14/2008 19:55
Big Z
There were a few elements of Banjo-Tooie that were greatly different from Banjo-Kazooie that I really enjoyed, like the Breegull Blaster sections and the nutty sports games. As far as widget collecting goes it's a game that never felt overbearing and was almost always entertaining. If Rare can repeat their performance with Banjo-Tooie - that is, taking what's proven to work and expanding on it rather than throwing it out - we'll have a real treat in front of us. If they decide to gut what we've come to love and expect from our bird and bear pair I'll be the first to start an angry mob.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 08:14
Snaileb
Co-op platforming maybe? :)
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