Another great post in my favorite cblog series :) Dunwich sounds cool, but I think I'll try Arkham by it own first.
On an unrelated note, the HP Lovecraft mythos looks very interesting. How would you recommend someone who has no prior experience with the tremendous bastion of works start? Is their a certain book, or series of books I should read first?
On an unrelated note, the HP Lovecraft mythos looks very interesting. How would you recommend someone who has no prior experience with the tremendous bastion of works start? Is their a certain book, or series of books I should read first?
@ Scary Womanizing Pig Mask:
Read Call of Cthulhu, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, The Dunwich Horror, and At the Mountains of Madness to start. Oh, and you can do so right here if you don't mind reading them online.
Read Call of Cthulhu, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, The Dunwich Horror, and At the Mountains of Madness to start. Oh, and you can do so right here if you don't mind reading them online.
@SWPM: Del Ray books released a trio of decent compilations that run the gamut of Lovecraft's fiction, which is probably as good a starting place as you are likely to find.
Blodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre is the best of the bunch, featuring some of his most notable works. The Call of Cthulhu, The Dunwich Horror and Shadow over Innsmouth are pretty much required reading for beginning Lovecraft readers. It also features what's probably my favorite of Lovecraft's weird tales (which is completely unrelated to the Mythos) called The Rats in the Walls.
The thing about the Cthulhu Mythos is that while it is attributed to Lovecraft, he was really a two-bit pulp author who couldn't sell his work. The stories that would eventually form the "Mythos" were loosely connected, at best, by a focus on New England with a dominant theme of man's insignificance in the universe.
It wouldn't be really unified until another author, August Derleth, proceeded to write stories about Lovecraft's stories, creating the Mythos as we know it today. Some, like myself, find Derleth's changes to the base concepts of Lovecraft's work to be frustrating (he turned it into more of a good vs evil struggle, due to the influence of his Catholicism) but his contribution is the primary reason people still read Lovecraft today. So, be warned, while Derleth's work preserved that of Lovecraft, his stuff is very different.
You might also want to check out Arkham House the publishing company who owns the rights to all of Lovecraft's work and also puts out some of the best Mythos-related fiction.
Blodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre is the best of the bunch, featuring some of his most notable works. The Call of Cthulhu, The Dunwich Horror and Shadow over Innsmouth are pretty much required reading for beginning Lovecraft readers. It also features what's probably my favorite of Lovecraft's weird tales (which is completely unrelated to the Mythos) called The Rats in the Walls.
The thing about the Cthulhu Mythos is that while it is attributed to Lovecraft, he was really a two-bit pulp author who couldn't sell his work. The stories that would eventually form the "Mythos" were loosely connected, at best, by a focus on New England with a dominant theme of man's insignificance in the universe.
It wouldn't be really unified until another author, August Derleth, proceeded to write stories about Lovecraft's stories, creating the Mythos as we know it today. Some, like myself, find Derleth's changes to the base concepts of Lovecraft's work to be frustrating (he turned it into more of a good vs evil struggle, due to the influence of his Catholicism) but his contribution is the primary reason people still read Lovecraft today. So, be warned, while Derleth's work preserved that of Lovecraft, his stuff is very different.
You might also want to check out Arkham House the publishing company who owns the rights to all of Lovecraft's work and also puts out some of the best Mythos-related fiction.
I actually just picked this up today, thinking it was the original game and not realizing it was an expansion until right after I'd already purchased it and left. Oh well, just means I'm definitely going to have to get the main game now.
@Conrad: I noticed on the Dunwich box that it's for 1-8 players. Can you legitimately play the Arkham Horror game (expansion or not included) by yourself and still have a good time with it? Also, does the number of players in general affect the enjoyment of the game? Kinda like how Munchkin is much more fun with 5 or 6 players than with 3?
@Conrad: I noticed on the Dunwich box that it's for 1-8 players. Can you legitimately play the Arkham Horror game (expansion or not included) by yourself and still have a good time with it? Also, does the number of players in general affect the enjoyment of the game? Kinda like how Munchkin is much more fun with 5 or 6 players than with 3?
I'll give major props to Derleth for keeping Lovecraft's works from disappearing into obscurity, but his "restructuring" of the Mythos was flat out terrible. Meh. I pretty much just ignore the Derleth-inspired canon myself.
The Wikipedia article for "Cthulhu Mythos" is a good read.
The Wikipedia article for "Cthulhu Mythos" is a good read.
@Negfactor: I've played Arkham Horror alone and enjoyed it, though it's pretty much impossible to win without managing at least three Investigators at once. Using an expansion and upping the difficulty further can make things excruciating for a group of less than four or five.
Obviously, cooperative games are more fun with more people (provided you enjoy the company of those you play with), but it's certainly serviceable alone as the game itself is a more than worthy opponent.
Obviously, cooperative games are more fun with more people (provided you enjoy the company of those you play with), but it's certainly serviceable alone as the game itself is a more than worthy opponent.
With your last post on Arkham Horror and now this on Dunwich Horror, I think I'm going to have to force some of my friends to play these. Being the huge fan of Lovecraft that I am, I love the treatment his idea's get with tabletop games, I just wish they got the same attention in video games.
@Faceless: Dark Corners of the Earth for XBox really had potential. I seem to remember an early trailer featuring a multiplayer mode where players could go insane and accidentally kill their co-op partners.
I remember playing only two examples of great Lovecraftian games, however. The first is The Lurking Horror, an Infocom text-adventure game which is deeply based in the Mythos. The other is the original Alone in the Dark, which not only makes repeated reference to Lovecraft but essentially created the Survival Horror genre as we came to know it.
I remember playing only two examples of great Lovecraftian games, however. The first is The Lurking Horror, an Infocom text-adventure game which is deeply based in the Mythos. The other is the original Alone in the Dark, which not only makes repeated reference to Lovecraft but essentially created the Survival Horror genre as we came to know it.
I played Dark Corners of the Earth a while back and thought the exact same thing. I remember being so excited afterwards because at least two sequels were hinted at before Headfirst went bankrupt.
I've always meant to get into the Alone in the Dark series, and I think I may just try and play some before the new one is released soon.
I've always meant to get into the Alone in the Dark series, and I think I may just try and play some before the new one is released soon.
Ok this is getting weird...
...I just got this expansion in the mail today...
I'm actually playing Arkham Horror right now Solo play with 6 investigators against Azathoth.
Great write-up again and thanks for the book information.
...I just got this expansion in the mail today...
I'm actually playing Arkham Horror right now Solo play with 6 investigators against Azathoth.
Great write-up again and thanks for the book information.
This was fucking epic, I played it about 2 months back. The only problem is finding another 2 or 3 people that are into Lovecraft tabletops that aren't internet friends.
Also, @SWPM: I got into the Cthulu mythos a while back when I picked up a real life book from Barns and Noble (it was actually THIS compilation). To quote Mxyzptlk from a few months back: "The best way to read him is with an actual book in your hands, late at night when the house is empty, and with only the light of a few candles. If there happens to be a thunderstorm going on outside, bonus. :-D"
Also, @SWPM: I got into the Cthulu mythos a while back when I picked up a real life book from Barns and Noble (it was actually THIS compilation). To quote Mxyzptlk from a few months back: "The best way to read him is with an actual book in your hands, late at night when the house is empty, and with only the light of a few candles. If there happens to be a thunderstorm going on outside, bonus. :-D"
I played a round of this with Dexter345 this afternoon. We wound up winning in the final battle but, with four people playing, things still managed to get out of control between traveling to Dunwich and back. Just too many gates too quickly.
I'll be following SWPM's lead as well-- thanks for the links, guys. I've heard Eternal Darkness is very heavily inspired by the mythos and if that's true, I think I'm going to really enjoy reading this. Such a pity it's not a dark rainy night. I don't quite understand how they're available so freely online though... are they in the public domain?
@Qalamari: Well, the copyright status of his writings has been disputed several times over the years (I was mistaken in my claim that Arkham House owned them; it seems they were given exclusive rights to publish by the man who supposedly owned the copyright).
Apparently, as of April of this year, the vast majority of his works have fallen into the public domain and much of it had been there for a long time, as there's no records of copyright being renewed for them. And, as of January 1st of this year, everything is public domain in the EU.
Apparently, as of April of this year, the vast majority of his works have fallen into the public domain and much of it had been there for a long time, as there's no records of copyright being renewed for them. And, as of January 1st of this year, everything is public domain in the EU.

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