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A Game for the Hardcore: Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Ckarasu | 3:37 PM on 03.08.2009 21 comments


Back in 2004, a game was released that completely changed how I thought about the RPG genre. This game was Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, and it had a big impact on me. I became a SMT (Shin Megami Tensei) fan right away, and it cemented my faith in Atlus as a publisher. While you may already have a good idea what I'll rate this game, I think you should read this review.



Game: Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Developer: Atlus
Publisher: Atlus
Genre: RPG
Year: 2004

The story puts you in the shoes of a silent protagonist. You and your friends are heading to a hospital to visit your teacher, Yuko. Things take a turn for the worse once you find out that she is involved (willingly) in the setup of the Conception, which is basically the end of the world. The Conception is successful, and with the intervention of a mysterious child, you become a half-demon. After waking, you encounter a mysterious old man who will continue to play a small (or major, depending on the route) role in the plot. You then explore this new world with the responsibility of choosing a "reason" to shape the new world. There is even a path you can take that reveals the true nature of the mysterious boy and old man.It's a great story with plenty of twists. You'll find that people, who were once your allies, will have goals opposing your own. You even come across everyone's favorite devil hunter, Dante (and he actually fits in with the story).

I'll admit that this game is a challenge. Enemies will exploit weaknesses more often than not. Bosses will make you seriously think at many times and will make you re-think your team (fucking Matador). It is actual challenge, though. You feel rewarded for beating a tough boss, and never really feel that you died from a cheap shot. This is one of the many reasons that this game is so great.


The fiends will kick your ass. Often.

The game's battle system, the Press Turn, is one of its strongest points. You basically start off with a few icons that denote how many turns you have. Any action you take consumes one icon, and once all are used, it becomes the enemies' turns. What makes it unique, and fun, is that it reward strategy and punishes mistakes. You see, if you score a critical or a weakness, one of the icons will flash instead of disappearing, which means that you have an extra turn. If an enemy is immune to the attack, you lose two turns (the current and the next one). If they reflect or drain the attack, you lose all of your turns. It is vital to learn how to exploit this system, or you will see the game over system quite often.

Besides yourself, your party will consist of demons that you have either recruited or fused. Recruiting demons usually consists with you initiating a conversation with them during battle, though they will sometimes ask you themselves. After gaining enough demons, you are able to start fusing. Fusion is important because it allows you to obtain demons that you would not normally encounter, or give skills to demons that they could not normally learn. You will need to fuse, as your demons will become obsolete over time (pro tip: Keep that pixie as it will be helpful to you later).


This is the Fountain of Life. Prepare to visit it, a lot.

As with most RPGs, you level up by killing enemies. What makes it fun is that you can customize your stats and skills. After leveling up, you are allowed to put points into any of your stats. The skills (consisting of magical and physical, either costing HP or MP) you learn depends on the Magatama equipped. You will find it hard to choose which skills to keep and which to throw away. What makes it harder is the fact that once the skill is gone, it won't come back unless it is on another Magatama. Demons automatically allocate stats, but do allow you to choose which skills to keep.

Another aspect to keep track of is the "moon" (kagutsuchi) phase. Every couple of steps you take will result in a shift in the phase of the "moon". The phase determines a variety of things, such as fusion and demon conversations. For example, if the moon is full demons become crazy, and talking to them yields mixed (mostly bad) results. Also, certain demons can only be fused during certain moon phases. It's a nice feature, and plays a key part in how you play the game.


The battle system is highly rewarding, and fun.

The graphics are 3D Cel-shaded, and look pretty good even for today's standards. Kazuma Kaneko has a great art style, and each character has a unique look to them. There are plenty of locales in the game, none of which really seems bland (except the overworld, but it doesn't matter). The only problem is that they are slightly bland, but it's a tiny problem. What I liked most was the design of the demons that you summon. It is clear that they are based off the myths of other cultures, while still showing creativity in their design.

The soundtrack is another strong point of the game (based in preference though). a lot of the songs consist of either rock or techno. The good thing is that each song really fits, and there is a lot of variety (6 or so battle songs). There is no voice acting in the game (except for battle grunts). But, that actually helps the game. It makes it so that you don't have to worry about hammy or bad delivered lines ruining the conversations.

The game has plenty of content (I put around 100 ours into the game). there are plenty of side quests to go through. There are multiple difficulty settings (easy, normal and hard). You can even fight the bosses again in the cemetery side-quest. You will also spend some time trying to improve your stats for some of tougher bosses. The fact that there are multiple endings(around 6) and New Game+ helps the replay value quite a bit.

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne is an awesome game that any RPG player should play. There is a lot to do, and all of the content is of high quality. It does a lot of things right, and there are only a couple of problems, which are extremely minor. I suggest this to anyone that likes the genre, especially the hardcore.

My Score:
10/10
It fucking deserves it.



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A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 17:13
A New Challenger
I'm playing through Persona 3 right now, and while obviously different as it's a spinoff it has gotten me interested in the SMT series, particularly this game (as it's the only proper entry to see a Western release.) My typical attention span for RPGs + the price have kept me off it for the moment, as has the knowledge that where cores are concerned it has the reputation of being the harder variety.

BUT, if I do end up finishing Persona 3 FES I will probably end up giving it a spin some time, as I'm really enjoying that game.
Ckarasu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 17:22
Ckarasu
-The only problem is that they are slightly bland- this was worded wrong. I meant to say that they were slightly dull. Most of the dungeons are a bit on the dull side. My bad.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 18:11
pedrovay2003
I've actually been looking for this, and I know where to get a pretty decent copy for $40, but I think I'd rather play through Digital Devil Sagas 1 and 2 first. I hear they're the best in the SMT series. Is that an opinion you share?
's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 18:12
Clint
I want this game bad, thanks largely to your post. Too bad it's sold our everywhere :/
Ckarasu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 18:22
Ckarasu
I played Digital Devil Saga 2. I didn't think it was quite as good as nocturne, but it was a good game none-the-less.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 19:03
BulletMagnet
Nocturne is my personal favorite SMT game - it just has so much to draw you in. I've put around 150 hours into it and there's still a good deal that I haven't seen. If you have any inclination at all towards the SMT series or time-consuming RPGs in general, by all means buy this.

I would slightly disagree with your assertion that deaths never feel cheap (I've been downed too many times by an unlucky critical hit or Mudo spell to go along with that), but I still love this game to death. One of my all-time favorite titles, ever.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 19:50
Kyousuke Nanbu
This is my fave SMT game and believe it or not, once you got a good grasp of the mechanics, its really easy, it becomes even easier once you learn mana drain as you MC will never run ouf MP.

Through the main game I always had one of every element, mana drain, focus and one physical attack and I never had trouble, once I went for the true ending I switched around his entire skillset and built the ultimate demon army.

Another pro-tip, even if you don't want the true demon ending, fight the first 3 fiends, Daisoujou is far to useful through the entire game for you not to make him.
Zulu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 20:06
Zulu
I've been looking at playing this game for quite some time. Ebay seems to be the only place I can find it. For me, it's either this or Persona 4 next. Nice write up.
Aziel13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 23:38
Aziel13
why I bough two damn copies
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 00:33
BlackFreefall
Off topic:
I was lucky enough to find Nocturne in Gamestop. Sometimes you just have to check out the used game sections cause you never know what you may find. I found Xenosaga III just the other day.
Now if I can only find Digital Devil Saga 2.

I didn't get the chance to start playing Nocturne. Judging from this post, the gameplay seems a bit harsh.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 01:13
TheCleaningGuy
I love this game. I really wish I was owning it instead of borrowing it.
Ckarasu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 03:29
Ckarasu
It does get quite easy later on in the game. Oh, if you get the Great Chakra, you'll never have to worry about MP ever again. Also, Daisoujo rocks.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 04:26
Kyousuke Nanbu
I found Nocturne AND Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 at my gamestop.

Sometimes you just get lucky.

And the gameplay isn't harsh at all, just be prepared and change your demons accordingly.

Rules to remember:

Keep all elements in your party so you can exploit all weaknesses.

Hama and Mudo are ok but not super important, prioritize elements.

Buff and Debuff spells ARE INCREDIBLE, you can stack them 4 times and they are amazing, they can make all the different in the world.

During the normal game you want this to be the MC's skilset:

One of every element. Fog Breath, Mana Drain, Focus, one good physical skill.

Having every element means you can exploit weakness, mana drain means you'll never run out of MP, Fog Breath drops the accuracy and agility of enemies by a lot, couple this will Sukukaja and you'll be dodging like a champ, focus doubles your damage, combine this with Tarukaja and even a simple attack will do insane damage, don't be shocked when you see the quadruple digits as you get better phys skills.

Also the very first force magatama you get teaches you Tornado which is an incredibly powerful force skill, don't remove it when you get it.

And finally Daisoujou fucking rocks, he comes with both of the strongest hama and mudo kills, his meditation(also built in) removes 80hp and mp from any enemy meaning he never runs out of SP AND he learns prayer, a spell that heals all HP and removes ailments, I fused with Bufula and Agilao so he can even dish out elemental damage, he also comes with preach which does 3 kinds of ailments and certain enemies are weak to ailments, he also has no outstanding weakness, he's just awesome from the moment you get him.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 04:28
Kyousuke Nanbu
Forgot to say up there, if you decide to go for the true demon ending, THEN you need to change up the MC's skilset to something drastically different but by that point you should familiar enough with the game to know what to get.
Ckarasu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 04:38
Ckarasu
The final boss for the True Demon Ending isn't all that hard. Just gotta play it safe and be patient.
thefil's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 08:45
thefil
I put about eight hours into Nocturne (before dropping it when Persona 3 came out) and didn't find it that challenging. On the other hand, I got four hours into Digital Devil Saga and gave up because I wasn't willing to grind in order to beat a boss, or die four times to figure out the boss' weakness.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 13:31
Kyousuke Nanbu
Then never play Shin Megami Tensei games as all of them require grinding at one point or another.

And 4 hours, that puts you at the first boss, he's weak to ice which is the first thing Serph learns.
Riegel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2009 16:27
Riegel88
Still can't find a copy of this any where, that is afordable..
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