Awesome blog!!
... though I guess I'm not a true geek cause I could only answer one of your questions... but I'm a wannabe geek! LOL
... though I guess I'm not a true geek cause I could only answer one of your questions... but I'm a wannabe geek! LOL
Like the croach, Geekdom will encompass all...and replace it with...well, crap I don't know, but I hope it's not anything Teen Dizney.
Glee fucking blows so hardcore. I can not express my eternal burning hatred for that show and the terrible fad of raping acapella that has accompanied it.
Now nerd raeg aside they've been saying "geek" is the new "chic" since 2000. The jury's still out in what defines a geek. Glee sucks.
I mean it seems like everywhere you turn someone will probably proclaim themselves a geek of something.
Essentially geek has been melted down to just being a big fan of something. Anything. Collect lawnmowers? Geek! Build with Legos at age 40? Geek! It's tough to pinpoint what a geek is anymore.
I've actually shunned the word geek. It's actually more annoying when it's cool. Now there's all these interpretations and stuff. I may use the almost interchangable word "nerd" but geek has become too high school clique-esque for me to take it or "geek culture" seriously.
Glee sucks.
Now nerd raeg aside they've been saying "geek" is the new "chic" since 2000. The jury's still out in what defines a geek. Glee sucks.
I mean it seems like everywhere you turn someone will probably proclaim themselves a geek of something.
Essentially geek has been melted down to just being a big fan of something. Anything. Collect lawnmowers? Geek! Build with Legos at age 40? Geek! It's tough to pinpoint what a geek is anymore.
I've actually shunned the word geek. It's actually more annoying when it's cool. Now there's all these interpretations and stuff. I may use the almost interchangable word "nerd" but geek has become too high school clique-esque for me to take it or "geek culture" seriously.
Glee sucks.
Man, a lot of hatred for Glee on Dtoid! Personally, I enjoy watching it but hey, to each their own. I can see why people hate it.
Xzyliac, I think you bring up a good point. Just because you're a big fan of something, doesn't necessarily mean you're a "geek" right? I have friends who are huge sports fans, but it's hard for me to picture them as geeks about it.
I guess if I had to define the criteria, I would say it would involve items of a mental capacity. That's not to say sports don't involve thinking (formations, recruiting, etc), just more of the "traditional" items like books, movies, television, etc.
But I would definitely call someone who builds legos at the age of forty a geek =)
Xzyliac, I think you bring up a good point. Just because you're a big fan of something, doesn't necessarily mean you're a "geek" right? I have friends who are huge sports fans, but it's hard for me to picture them as geeks about it.
I guess if I had to define the criteria, I would say it would involve items of a mental capacity. That's not to say sports don't involve thinking (formations, recruiting, etc), just more of the "traditional" items like books, movies, television, etc.
But I would definitely call someone who builds legos at the age of forty a geek =)
Geek was a galick(i think) term for circus freaks with bizarre acts...It was then used to attempt to offend people. It was an insult to put it simply. I dont believe most of the possibilities for geek you listed are viable.
I am one who is sick of the way people like one thing that can slightly be considered geeky, or play one game (halo) and have no social or personality traits to suit a real geek, calling themselves geeks. It pisses me off! As someone who suffered through the insults of 'geek!', i find it offensive that its cool for every tween and twat to call themselves a geek at the idea of it being cool now....Its not meant to be cool, we arent meant to be cool. Acceptance is nice, but with that comes people usurping our culture and ideals. "OMG i love edward, im such a geek! Always knew i was, i like totally watched star wars episode 1 with arkin or whatever lolol" Shit like that pissed me off!
You are not a geek because you have a one transformers (current movies) shirt, because you know 'megaprime' (< that is a joke). I dont mind people trying to talk to me about geek culture, but when they say they are a geek...I want fucking proof!
My problem is most adopt geek because it is cool now. Mainstream is ravaging the idea of what being a geek is! Now the real geeks, that try and wade through the sea of bullshit tween "geeks", are just considered 'losers'. Liking a show about geeks doesnt make you a geek, being a real geek does.
Also, FUCK GLEE
Also, Also: Nerds are people obsessed with academic pursuits and are generally socially inept.
I am one who is sick of the way people like one thing that can slightly be considered geeky, or play one game (halo) and have no social or personality traits to suit a real geek, calling themselves geeks. It pisses me off! As someone who suffered through the insults of 'geek!', i find it offensive that its cool for every tween and twat to call themselves a geek at the idea of it being cool now....Its not meant to be cool, we arent meant to be cool. Acceptance is nice, but with that comes people usurping our culture and ideals. "OMG i love edward, im such a geek! Always knew i was, i like totally watched star wars episode 1 with arkin or whatever lolol" Shit like that pissed me off!
You are not a geek because you have a one transformers (current movies) shirt, because you know 'megaprime' (< that is a joke). I dont mind people trying to talk to me about geek culture, but when they say they are a geek...I want fucking proof!
My problem is most adopt geek because it is cool now. Mainstream is ravaging the idea of what being a geek is! Now the real geeks, that try and wade through the sea of bullshit tween "geeks", are just considered 'losers'. Liking a show about geeks doesnt make you a geek, being a real geek does.
Also, FUCK GLEE
Also, Also: Nerds are people obsessed with academic pursuits and are generally socially inept.
I have a hard time stomaching geek as "chic" by virtue of all of the romantically desperate geeks/nerds/gerds at my job, a software company. But I can't refute your evidence. Good blog!
Hriki,
I am not a geek because I won one transformers shirt. In fact I own several. Grimlock, Bumblebee, Starscream, Megatron and Soundwave, no movie t-shirts. I also own an autobot hoodie. I grew up obsessing over transformers and have several glass cases full of unopened transformers, ranging from MP to a special edition G1 Pepsi Optimus Prime. How does that not make me a geek?
I understand where you're coming from, but the whole point of this blog was that things that us, what you call, "real" geeks find interesting and awesome are hitting mainstream, and how that's a good thing (comic books, video games, 80s cartoons). Take video games for example. It legitimizes the medium and allows for progress.
Tween geekdom is just part of the pie that you'll have to stomach as the rest of it gets better. I'd say stop whining about it, but I know better than to tell geeks to stop whining. It's part of the sense of entitlement that most geeks feel (see: Kotaku comments, Digg, imdb, Dtoid)
Oh and let me clarify, because I feel the need to. I used Team Edward/Jacob as an example, but I absolutely hate Twilight.
I am not a geek because I won one transformers shirt. In fact I own several. Grimlock, Bumblebee, Starscream, Megatron and Soundwave, no movie t-shirts. I also own an autobot hoodie. I grew up obsessing over transformers and have several glass cases full of unopened transformers, ranging from MP to a special edition G1 Pepsi Optimus Prime. How does that not make me a geek?
I understand where you're coming from, but the whole point of this blog was that things that us, what you call, "real" geeks find interesting and awesome are hitting mainstream, and how that's a good thing (comic books, video games, 80s cartoons). Take video games for example. It legitimizes the medium and allows for progress.
Tween geekdom is just part of the pie that you'll have to stomach as the rest of it gets better. I'd say stop whining about it, but I know better than to tell geeks to stop whining. It's part of the sense of entitlement that most geeks feel (see: Kotaku comments, Digg, imdb, Dtoid)
Oh and let me clarify, because I feel the need to. I used Team Edward/Jacob as an example, but I absolutely hate Twilight.
I'm with Hriki, you don't deserve the geek mantle like all of us, you're not a geek, you're a hipster douchebags, just waiting for the next fad to rape another culture.
Naim Master,
Sorry you feel that way! I'll just keep on calling myself a geek, if only just to know that it irks you that I associate myself with the same group that you do =)
Sorry you feel that way! I'll just keep on calling myself a geek, if only just to know that it irks you that I associate myself with the same group that you do =)
I bought a batman sweater for my nephew at Old Navy for Christmas. Geek Chic is everywhere. Our club is expanding and though that's nice on a grand scale, you almost feel normal now and that sucks. Sure, no more wedges but somehow it's like the club has been infiltrated by the cool people and all the stuff that made us special is gone.
Now we have to set higher standards for geeks in order to recognize the old school geeks as oppose to the band wagon jumpers.
Now we have to set higher standards for geeks in order to recognize the old school geeks as oppose to the band wagon jumpers.
I don't think anyone really has to worry about their culture being absorbed by the philistines as though it's somehow going to detract from your own sense of geekdom self worth. I think part of being a "geek" is the fact that we do what we do with little regard for how others see us. Those twitards who claim their own geekdom would still most certainly sneer at you Magic the Gathering playing, MMO binging, "one ring" sporting uber dweebs of video game culture. Er, maybe that's just me.
Like you, OP, I welcome those sneers as I freely admit it's part of who I am. Don't let the haters hate, not here, and not at your school. You've got a great message here.
Like you, OP, I welcome those sneers as I freely admit it's part of who I am. Don't let the haters hate, not here, and not at your school. You've got a great message here.
@chiben
When I referee to the transformers bit, I didn't actually mean you, yourself sorry. I use you as directing toward those who act the way I was disputing. Not yourself. But I do feel you are enjoying the 'fad' idea of being a geek more than you should. As I said, acceptance is nice, but the way geek has been stolen and now I'm a loser not nerd pisses me off. When geek was accepted/stolen, the insult changed for true geeks. Now everyones a geek and we are nerds/losers
When I referee to the transformers bit, I didn't actually mean you, yourself sorry. I use you as directing toward those who act the way I was disputing. Not yourself. But I do feel you are enjoying the 'fad' idea of being a geek more than you should. As I said, acceptance is nice, but the way geek has been stolen and now I'm a loser not nerd pisses me off. When geek was accepted/stolen, the insult changed for true geeks. Now everyones a geek and we are nerds/losers
Hriki,
Hm. I never thought of it that way. I think TriggerRedd has a good point though. They can try and insult us all they want, but we enjoy what we enjoy. If they feel like we're losers because of that, fuck them.
You are right, some things may never be mainstream that we love (Magic the Gathering is a great example from TriggerRedd. I still have boxes upon boxes of those cards). But in the end, it's the group that you choose to associate yourself with that matters. Fuck the rest =)
Hm. I never thought of it that way. I think TriggerRedd has a good point though. They can try and insult us all they want, but we enjoy what we enjoy. If they feel like we're losers because of that, fuck them.
You are right, some things may never be mainstream that we love (Magic the Gathering is a great example from TriggerRedd. I still have boxes upon boxes of those cards). But in the end, it's the group that you choose to associate yourself with that matters. Fuck the rest =)

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