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PC Gaming and why it is not something I do.
Sean Daisy | 8:59 AM on 08.31.2009 19 comments


After reading an interesting article about raucous point-and-click adventure title Time Gentlemen, Please! I bit the bullet and thought I'd install the demo and try it out. After a short installation on Steam I was greeted with the following upon trying to play the game.


Thanks, stupid pop-up, you have relieved me of the burden of getting to play the game I want to play.

Thus, I begin the trial of checking to find the setup programme (which appears not to exist), then the Steam website for support (no help), the Zombie Cow website for support (no help), the Adventure Game Studio website for support (no help), then check my graphics drivers are up-to-date (no help), before eventually giving up.

If I want to play this game, I will have to continue trawling the internet and/or my OS to try and solve a ridiculous puzzle that has been presented to me. After which I may well identify that it cannot be solved as the result of some technical aspect of my laptop being amiss, such as my graphics card being unable to render polygons the way the game likes them rendered, so I am simply left defeated.

I'm sure that there are some chip jockeys out there who are likely to scoff at my exploits, demanding why I'm not more au fait with my OS and hardware, or why I cannot decipher the riddle with ease, drill into the menu choices lodged within Vista's bowels, adjust the required checkboxes and menus and get the game running.

I'm sorry, but I just wanted to relax and play a game.

PC stalwarts will insist that it is worth the hassle to play games such as Crysis that consoles are yet to replicate in beauty and depth of physics, and games such as Left 4 Dead that really come into their own with community levels and mods. To some degree they are quite right. However, there seems so much heartache to get to that point, when I can just pick up a 360 controller to play Halo 3, or a PS3 controller to play Killzone 2, and gain access to experiences that are as unique any PC title. All with the added bonus of gaining that experience straight away, with comfort and ease.

This is why PC gaming is not something I do.



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PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 09:42
PhazonYoshi
Yeah, that's a bitch. It's not PC gaming norm, however.
Stick a disk in, install the game, play the game is pretty much all you have to do - except when your hardware is insufficient, but that's like trying to play Halo 3 on an original XBox. Of course it's not going to work.
Alasdair Duncan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 09:43
Alasdair Duncan
Yeah, I got the Penumbra collection a while back ago and the games never worked for me. Kept coming up with an error message about voxel shaders, what ever the fuck they are. I eventually upgraded my graphics drivers and the games now work.

You're right though, putting a console game in the system and simply starting the game is really fucking good if you've had a nightmare installing a game. I will say that it's a hell of a lot better than it used to be. I've had my new PC rig for a year now and the only problem I've had with a game has been World Of Goo, which doesn't seem to want to work on a dual monitor display.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 10:40
Velt
Say whatever you want but is impossible to play an FPS with a controller and feel comfortable.
Same thing with an RTS.

Granted, hardware on pc´s is not for everyone, but you are talking about a single game, I had my problems with Empire Total War, it wasnt the PC fault, the developer released a broken game, six months later the game was working (after several patches). Yet I dont have problem with all the games I install.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 10:42
VWGTI
Say whatever you want but is impossible to play an FPS with a controller and feel comfortable.

Uh, no.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 11:18
Elsa
I started to get problems with playing newer games and still being able to play older games. I'm not a real computer whiz so it often seemed if I finally configured my graphics and settings to play one game, I often couldn't seem to play an older game. I too finally gave up and returned to console play. :(
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 11:20
PhazonYoshi
Say whatever you want but is impossible to play an FPS with a controller and be able to hit shit without insane amounts of auto-aim.

I fixed it for you :3
That's not a bad thing, neccesarily, but I prefer PC FPS' massively.
Freefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 12:36
Freefall
@Phazonyoshi

Actually, At one point, I found it far more easier and accurate to aim with a controller (And this is without Auto-aim or aim-assist). It all comes down to practice.

And if its so hard to aim then surely people who use a controller are more skilled?

I just hate it when people attack different control schemes.

And yes, I played Crysis with a wired 360 controller.

Back on topic, This is the one thing which holds me back from being fully fledged in PC gaming, there are always problems for me, always. Granted, my dad built the family computer and I'm pretty sure it became sentient just to piss me off.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 13:59
DaedHead8
I remember getting FF7 on PC for Christmas before I ever had a Playstation and I was so excited to play it but my father and I could never get it to run, even though our PC well excedded the games requirements. And my dad was/is a computer programmer so it's not like he doesn't know what he is doing. I got to play the game on Playstation eventually and I wasn't turned off from PC gaming entirely but I did avoid it for a long time after the FF7 incident. Inexplicable shit like that just sucks.

Also, welcome to 2009 folks, the controller has been equal to the keyboard and mouse for about five years now. It's all about preferences. Just because you're better at keyboard and mouse doesn't make it the best solution for everyone. Also, I can use both keyboard and mouse and a game controller with equal skill, so I know what I'm talking about.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 14:14
Timmeh
You don't game on PC because a demo didn't work? Whatever, it's your loss. This is almost as laughable as those "I don't game on PC because you have to spend hundreds of dollars upgrading every year" guys.

I've got stacks of games from current stuff, to games released in the 90's and I have no trouble getting anything to work on Vista. 2 clicks and I'm away. If you prefer a console experience then good for you, I've got a 360 myself. This is absolutely not the norm for the PC as a gaming platform though, unless the 'problem' is sitting between the keyboard and the chair.
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 14:30
Sean Daisy
@Timmeh If you want to put your money where your mouth is, please feel free to use your superior skills to fix the problem I have with running my demo. You have the screen capture of the popup. I have a Sony Vaio laptop model number VGN-NR32L.
EX35's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 14:35
EX35
Here's your problem. Laptop.

Play on a tower. Problem solved. :)
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 14:40
Sean Daisy
@EX35 Sweet! Can you recommend a prebuild tower that I can purchase in the UK at a reasonable price and will play all the latest games on respectable settings? If you can point me to a link I would appreciate it.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 14:54
Timmeh
That model has an integrated Intel graphics chip so you're probably shit out of luck to be honest. Integrated graphics are notorious for simply not supporting a lot of the features common in games it's not generally what they are made for.

One thing you can try is going into the demo directory, opening acsetup.cfg and changing both defaultgfxdriver and gfxdriver to D3D5. While you're there make sure windowed is set to 1 as well.
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 15:17
Sean Daisy
@Timmeh looks like that did the trick! How did you know that would work?
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 15:19
Sean Daisy
@Timmeh Thanks for your help. I have had trouble running games as simple as Half-Life 2 but I had thought a crudely-drawn point-and-click wouldn't be beyond this laptop's capabilities!
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 15:20
Timmeh
There's a post with possible solutions for similar issues on the Zombie Cow Studios forums. Telling the game to use Direct3D 5 has presumably sidestepped or disabled the call for whatever feature wasn't supported by the chip.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 15:26
PhazonYoshi
@Freefall; not at all. It's just as easy to HIT things with a controller, but a mouse gives that plus speed. I didn't at any point attack controllers, I just said I prefer a mouse. I prefer Half Life 2 to Half Life, this doesn't mean I hate Half Life.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 15:32
Timmeh
No problem, I can be a dick sometimes but I do try to be helpful at least once a day. I figure it'll all count when I get to the pearly gates (or when they work out how long I've got to spend in Purgatory first) ;)
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/31/2009 16:34
Holyetheline
@Daedhead8

OMG I can use mouse/keys combo as well as a normal controller equally too! What's up with everyone just being able to use one or the other these days anyway?
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