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DS: Portable Apathy
Kyle MacGregor | 12:28 PM on 11.29.2009 22 comments


Note: Before owning the DS my previous portable experience was confined almost entirely to repetitiously playing Pokemon Red with my Gameboy Pocket on long road trips and plane flights.

Six months ago I received a DS Lite from my younger sister, who used it almost exclusively as a portable study device during high school. After graduating, she saw no further need to use it and figured that I would appreciate it. I was extremely grateful, and since receiving the DS from her I have purchased Bangai-O Spirits, New Super Mario Bros and Scribblenauts.



Bangai-O Spirits is about worth what I paid for it, five dollars. I have fooled around with it, but I generally find it to be unenjoyable and extremely difficult. It’s a classic case of do not formulate an opinion or expectation of a game on its cover art. I would be surprised if I ever inserted it back into my DS.

Scribbenauts, I purchased despite the less than stellar reviews. I suppose I fell hard for that E3 coverage. The game is fun for about half an hour at a time tops, after that I feel as though it is less of a contiguous game and more of an assortment of creativity and logic based puzzles. I thought I was playing the latest Gameboy, not filling out the crosswords and Sudoku in the back of the newspaper.



If I ever have ten spare minutes at home, I will gladly sit down and beat the original Super Mario Bros for the umpteenth time. I absolutely adore the original side-scrolling Mario titles, and couldn’t care less about his 3D outings. However, despite how it appears to be designed for people just like myself, New Super Mario Bros has not won me over. It is an entertaining and retro game, but just does not manage to give me that classic feeling. Perhaps, I am suffering from nostalgia, or retro-goggles, but NSMB just does not give me anywhere near the enjoyment that any single game on my Super Mario All Stars Cartridge provides. Furthermore, the difficult is pretty hit or miss. NSMB either feels incredibly easy or unfair, never threatening to be legitimately challenging.

I find the DS entertaining for short bursts when I have nothing else to do and am either travelling or waiting some place away from home. It is not dissimilar to reading a magazine or doodling in a boring lecture. I would not normally do these things given the opportunity to do something else, but it is entertaining enough given the alternatives. I do not feel as though I could spend hours at home plugging away at Ace Attorney, like my friends that made me envy the system, or even the way I do regularly with my Wii or PS3. I am left begging the question, is portable gaming just not for me or am I just looking for fun on the system in all the wrong places?



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Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 13:00
Kraid
Bangai-O Spirits is difficult to get into but I love it with all my heart. I usually play my portable consoles at home and I mostly use them like you. I can't stand several hours on my portables than let's say on my PSTriples.

I think you are the same kind of gamer as me when it comes to portable consoles , I mostly play puzzle games and easy games to get into and put away. RPGs can be tedious on a portable and I mostly play the more lengthy ones on my consoles.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 13:03
Elsa
I bought my Mom a DS for Christmas... and have been breaking it in for her. She likes crossword puzzles, anagrams, word jumbles... so those are the games I've been playing (and on some of those games they need the option to increase text size!!!). I can see that the DS in general would be fun if I had a daily commute on a bus or a lunch hour where I was stuck at work - but in all honestly I have access to my PS3 most of the time and portable gaming just isn't for me. In fact since getting my PS3 I can't think of one entire PSP game that I have actually completed and I find the PSP much more suited to my gaming tastes than the DS.

Glad I'm not the only one that finds the DS to be kind of "meh".
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 13:21
Monodi
Maybe you are just looking for the wrong games too. You gotta choose carefully because the DS has almost as much shovelware as the Wii.

New Super Mario Bros was criminally easy and has a poor level design, even Miyamoto has regretted doing a lot on it.

Scribblenauts is probably the only purchase I regret having, I will admit. It was exciting at first but got extremely boring very fast.

From my collection I LOVE several titles like Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure, Rhythm Heaven, Phoenix Wright, Retro Game Challenge and Elite Beat Agents.

i suggest you to look forward Okamiden because it doesn't look like a Phantom Hourglass copy. I find PH to be my least favorite Zelda of all, so I SUGGEST you to not buy it unlesss you crave for some quests, but that game is way too easy for my Zelda taste.

If you feel the same after trying the games i already suggested you, well maybe the dual screen is simply not for you.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 13:30
Chris Carter
Um.......

DS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii

There's tons of games for it dude, you should look for some. Get Rhythm Heaven, Phoenix Wright, and Hatsworth first.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 13:40
Kyle MacGregor
@Magnalon
Isn't that subjective? Just because that is your personal opinion does not mean it necessarily applies to me and mine.

That said, the minute I can take Bit Trip with me wherever I go...

@Monodi
I am looking forward to Okamiden and the Pokemon Silver remake. Of course that would require me to stop playing NSMB Wii and Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles so I could pop Okami back into my Wii and finish that beast.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 13:58
Chris Carter
I suppose it's subjective, but I'm talking about the game library, which is universally better.

If you inherently don't like touch screens (as some might not inherently like motion control), you're out of luck, but the library is extremely expansive. It also has one HUGE genre the Wii utterly lacks: great RPGs.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 14:30
Jon B
I enjoyed my DS for about 2 weeks, and now don't really get much use out of it any more.

But that 2 weeks is still 1 week more playtime than I got from my Wii.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 14:35
Chris Carter
@Jon
I could list out all the must haves on the Wii and DS; and the DS would probably have twice as many titles.

I might actually do that one day, considering people crap on the Wii and DS a lot. The DS actually has more titles than most systems out there, sans the 360/Xbox Live Arcade.
Anonymouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 14:49
Anonymouse
"Six months ago I received a DS Lite from my younger sister, who used it almost exclusively as a portable study device..." Er, I'm assuming that you mean she used Brain Training a lot on it. If not, I'm totally confuddled.

I have to say that I've just gotten far out of my DS than my Wii. And I will continue to do so, given the list of games due out.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 15:11
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@Jon B
I fail to see why people seem to brag about how dusty or unused their systems are. Congratulations for wasting hundreds of dollars and not buying software to justify your purchase. That's so cool.

@Anonymouse
My SAT Coach, Scrabble DS, My French Coach, and Zoo Vet or something. She was working on her SATs, AP French and she's studying to be a vet at college. My parents figured that if they were games, she would be more inclined to study. She scored well, so I guess it helped.

@Magnalon
The system has more games than I have time or money to spend on them. I already have a backlog and a long list of games for the system. Bit Trip Void filled up my Wii's hard-drive so I suppose I'm going to have to go out and buy a SD card for future Wii-Ware purchases.

Conversely, there are only a handful of DS games I am interested in. I think there's a large difference between games that were received well critically, and personal preference. By no means am I done with the DS, but I am starting to reevaluate how invested I can be in it. For example, after playing Scribblenauts I am afraid Soul Bubbles will be awfully similar. I'm still interested in trying out Rhythm Heaven and Super Robot Taisen OG Saga.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 19:55
Jonathan Holmes
@ Cad- My DS usage has really slowed downlately. There was a time I couldn't put the thing down; 2D Castlevanias, new 2D Mario games new 2D Mario RPGs, Final Fantasy remakes, it seemed like there was a great new for the thing every month or so. This year has been pretty dead other than Retro Game Challenge and Mario and Luigi 3.

I can recommend both of them wholeheartedly. RGC2 is even better if you can get your hands on an import copy.

@ Magnalon- You just got a Wii a few weeks ago, right? You may end finding out that there are more good games on the thing than you think...
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 20:39
Electrium
My DS time has really come to a complete standstill. I couldn't even finish Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story.

Really though, there are lots of good games for the DS, don't let those 3 turn you off. You might benefit from buying a not-flash card for homebrew and not-downloading games.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 20:46
Monodi
2008 and early 2009 was such a kickass time for the DS.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 21:07
BulletMagnet
First things first - Scribblenauts and Soul Bubbles are NOTHING alike. You probably already saw my lengthy diatribe on the latter game (if not, check my sidebar), but I definitely recommend it if you're looking for atmosphere and simplicity done to near-perfection. I also second earlier recommendations for Henry Hatsworth, Elite Beat Agents, and the Castlevanias, though I'd toss Knights in the Nightmare in as well - there are also truckloads of SRPGs (FFTA2, Devil Survivor, Luminous Arc, etc.) and the like if those are your thing. I'd hafta look around a bit, but I'm sure I could directly recommend several others.

Of course, this all depends on your personal taste in games, but I see the DS as about as close to a portable PS2 as we've gotten, insofar as there are SO many games on the thing that there are bound to be a handful that you like. I'm currently pumped for SMT Strange Journey and the Might + Magic pseudo-puzzler, and hope that Okamiden makes it over - look around a bit more and I think there's probably something that appeals to you in the system's library.
Vitamin Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 22:18
Vitamin Awesome
My DS doesn't see so much action, but when it does I can't seem to put it down either.

There are plenty of good games, you just have to find them, which can be somewhat tricky. You can always go for surefire hits like Pokemon (I know I'll be picking up the Silver remake), and Phantasy Star Zero has been pretty good to me lately. You do have to go through a bunch of shovelware to find something worth playing, but that's where something like Gamestop's seven day return policy on used games can be a saving grace.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 22:32
Dan CiTi
Pokemon SoulSilver and Kirby Super Star Ultra are good, you should get those. Also, I haven't touched my DS in a while. Then again, I barely play games anymore it seems, just some fighting games for a bit each day or so. I need to get a new PSP charger too...Gundam Vs. Gundam NEXT Plus comes out soon.
LegendPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 23:00
LegendPenguin
It's just the kind of gamer you are. Not everyone has picked up an interest in the DS, and frankly, if one doesn't look for the real niche and interesting titles, then you find that it's all shovelware for the soccer moms...almost as bad as the Wii.

In all honesty, I've used my DS way more than my 360 or Wii. My personal suggestions are Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, GTA: Chinatown Wars, and The World Ends With You.
TriplZer0's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/29/2009 23:42
TriplZer0
I've inherited two DS's from my brothers as they've upgraded to the Lite and i iterations. I've used it to play my GBA games like Golden Sun and FFTA2. I know there are good games out there for the system, but I can't bring myself to go buy them and sit down and play them when I can play other really good games on my consoles.

What's funny is I loved Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga but couldn't play more than 10 minutes of Partners in Time and I can't make myself go out and buy Bowser's Inside Story even though it's supposed to be good.

But I am definitely getting the new Golden Sun for DS when it comes out.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2009 00:26
Chris Carter
@Jon
I agree the Wii has a ton of good games; that's why I got it!

But it's no where NEAR the library of the DS.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2009 11:31
The Silent Protagonist
If you can't find a game you like for DS, chances are you could never find one on PS2, either. I still have a whole heap of RPG, Strategy titles and action/adventure games to play on DS, so I'm not suffering from a lack of interesting games.

I think researching purchases more thoroughly would remedy most of the problems here. Reading reviews only does so much, and when you go to the bigger sites out there, handheld games don't get the attention or priority they rightly deserve. IGN and 1up seem to pawn off portable reviews to interns and if that's the future of gaming journalism... God help us all. They certainly read like some intern cutting his teeth on the whole writing thing.

Anyway, I tend to track previews more than reviews. I know what I get myself into well before I put the money down for it and I do this for any game. Just buying stuff at random or on the recomendations of others is bound to get you burned.
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