MadCatz.
That name represents wasted money and crap products to this day to many a gamer out there. MadCatz know this so their PR people are actually trying disprove that, now that accessories are in vogue like guitars and joysticks. Too bad that they still can not make a good controller for the life of them. I made the decision to buy the fight pad form them. And at first all was great actually, the controller did make a difference for the better in my playing. Of course all this is true until the buttons decided to crap out and activate at times when I didn't even press them. Thanks to some connections I had with the store I was able to return the controller and just pay the difference on an arcade stick, made by motherf^%$in MadCatz of all companies.
Its MadCatz I know, but I can actually get this modded if needs be to be a better joystick relatively easily. That and I always wanted a joystick. "Now that I have a joystick, I will be able to just demolish even more people!" I thought.
I went from a state of being in absolute complacency with the level of control I had in fighting games, to feeling the white hot rage that comes from not being able pull a Shoryuken motion consistently. Several years of complacency like that makes your pride hurt real bad when you can't do a special attack. That feeling of helplessness that comes from knowing what you have to do but can't is the worst. "I want to actually pull off my Soul Throw Dammit!" ran through my mind countless times. This was also when I realized I did actually care for my BP in Street Fighter. I went from 2100 BP to a lowly 1500 BP quickly because I refused to use a PS3 controller. Eventually I got mad enough where I started using a controller for the rest of the ranked matches and switched to the arcade stick during arcade mode. "I am better than this!" I thought. I was angry at myself for essentially being back in square one.
The night after it clicked.
I was in a place where I haven't been since I started playing the original Street Fighter Alpha. I was actually learning to play fighting games all over again in a sense. This realization filled me with nostalgia about the days where I could care less about technique and winning and just having fun again. So what if I can't do a Shoryuken? I improvised back when I was playing alpha, I'll just have to improvise once more. I was in essence re-learning how to play fighting games.
"I'll get there eventually. I'll master Shoryukens again someday. I'll become a competent fighter again" were the thoughts that ran through my head. It was then that I realized that because of my retained experience and determination, that I was not in square one in terms of fighting games. All of this was familiar yet new at the same time. I realized I was in the New Game + of fighting games. My BP right now is about 1400 and will probably fall more, but that’s ok now. I'm new to Fighting games in sense. I'll just have to get back on the square I was at, one Shoryuken at a time.
oh man, I hate it when that happens. I took a loooong break from fighting games but when I came back I barely remembered how to do the motions.
just think, on you get the srk motion down then you will get to do half circles, 360's, 720's,tiger knee motions,quarter circle half circles, deadly rave neo's and oh so many more convoluted motions!
I'm in almost the same boat. I'm more of a NeoGeo type of guy, and then I said "screw this, I'm going to play with more than just Ken on Street Fighter" when SF4 came out. So yeah, I'm getting my ass handed to me and I am learning everything on the PS3 controller (cuz I can't find a decently priced joystick for the life of me right now). So now, my BP is at like 300 and my percentage of winning is at like... 45% or something.
Right now, I either get beat bad or when I do win, it's a surprise yet everyone is having fun. One day, I get someone to yell at me "I got beat by a defensive Chun Li!?! WTF is that all about!?" just like someone did on SF2THDR...
...one Spinning Bird Kick at a time I guess...
Street Fighter 4 showed me how much I suck at Street Fighter. Then I started having fun, and now I'm relearning just the same as you. (I'm pretty good with my stick now though.)
Being proficient in Street Fighter is all in the mind.ESPECIALLY with SF4. I often win not by flashy supers or ultras but by basic move sets like sweep, throws or manual jib jab attacks with jabs and mediums.
As for stick use, when I was in the arcades long ago, that's how I rolled. But nowadays the PS3 pad is just as comfortable if not more so than the best sticks out there. Do I consider myself de-evolving into a state of newbness?
Not one single bit. To me it's all about the fun I derive from actually matching wits with a player that knows what he's doing. The ebb and flow of the matches, the mistakes capitalized by my opponent and myself. The last minute hit that nets me either and well fought win or a learning defeat.
I await our next future matches C2C. I had fun the last time.
I have been finding the exact same thing, having to re-learn all my dpad street fighter skills and apply them to my Hori EX2 stick. I grew up in the country to didnt get to learn on a stick as a kid.
Although, I am playing on 360 and would LOVE to be able to use a ps3 controller.
My biggest problem is VEGAs ultra combo.
Great read. I agree that the many times that I have attempted to make the move to a stick, I felt exactly the same way. Except, I always just immediately picked the contoller back up and left the stick to collect dust.
Maybe someday. Should that day come, this blog will have been no small amount of the inspiration.
It's a real shot to the nuts when you lose a few matches in a row and your BP plummets hundreds of points. It feels like I'll win 4 or 5 matches and then lose 1, and I'll be back where I started. This system is very unforgiving.
Street Fighter deserves to be played on six buttons and a joystick. Keep practicing, and you will find yourself pulling off combos you might not have otherwise considered... and landing Shoryukens faster than you ever could on the pad.
I mean, you can play Guitar Hero with a gamepad, but it's actually harder and less intuitive to do so. And for the love of god stay out of Ranked unless you are confident in your stick wielding skills!