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games to try: PS2 Nightshade (sequel to ps2's Shinobi)
PS2 Silent Hill 3
GC,PS2,XBX Beyond Good and Evil (obvious I know, sorry)
Ps2 Ghost in the Shell SAC (it's actually pretty fun)
PS2 The Red Star
PC The Longest Journey
PC, XBX Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
XBX Panzer Dragoon Orta
NeoGeo, Wii, Ps2, PSP Metal Slug 2 and up (I love Fio)
DS Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
SAT Guardian Heroes (there's a couple interesting ladies in this amazing multiplayer game)
PS2 Resident Evil Outbreak (this one's a stretch, but there are some good female leads in this little number.)
Anyone else have any good suggestions?
Also, Mr. or Ms. Butterflies and Hurricanes, do you have any suggestions for me for a good game with non-traditional female leads?
PS2 Silent Hill 3
GC,PS2,XBX Beyond Good and Evil (obvious I know, sorry)
Ps2 Ghost in the Shell SAC (it's actually pretty fun)
PS2 The Red Star
PC The Longest Journey
PC, XBX Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
XBX Panzer Dragoon Orta
NeoGeo, Wii, Ps2, PSP Metal Slug 2 and up (I love Fio)
DS Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
SAT Guardian Heroes (there's a couple interesting ladies in this amazing multiplayer game)
PS2 Resident Evil Outbreak (this one's a stretch, but there are some good female leads in this little number.)
Anyone else have any good suggestions?
Also, Mr. or Ms. Butterflies and Hurricanes, do you have any suggestions for me for a good game with non-traditional female leads?
bovine: Well there's the obvious Metroid series (Nintendo), BloodRayne(Xbox), Eternal Darkness (GC), GrimGrimoire has female characters (PS2) But I haven't actually popped it in, Ico(PS2) you drag a girl around with you...
I guess I should ask what kind of games are you looking for?
I guess I should ask what kind of games are you looking for?
non-traditional (a character built on her personality and skill, not her looks) female lead in a game, could be any genre (prefereably an above average game). I have not tried Eternal Darkness or Grim Grimoire, on your recommendation I will look them up to fill what looks to be a pretty dry post-christmas for games. Do you actually recommend Bloodrayne to me? I tried it out on a demo over Steam a long time ago and it seemed pretty generic, but if you say it's good, I'll give it another go. Could have been bloodrayne 2..... I don't really remember.
haha no I don't actually recommend Bloodrayne, it was actually more of a general brainstorming for me...
Okami is a female wolf hehe, I'll think about it some more and give you some more titles.
But from those Eternal Darkness is really good, I liked it.
And Ico, I don't know if you've tried it, but you do play a male protagonist but you have a girl with you that has no sense of anything so you have to take care of her, it's really neat.
Okami is a female wolf hehe, I'll think about it some more and give you some more titles.
But from those Eternal Darkness is really good, I liked it.
And Ico, I don't know if you've tried it, but you do play a male protagonist but you have a girl with you that has no sense of anything so you have to take care of her, it's really neat.
oh, I have played it. I just recently acquired it and beat it. It started off a little dull, but the ending and the lead up to the ending was just amazing. I've also played Okami and it is dynamite as well. I've hit every iteration of the metroid series except Zero Mission and Return of Samus. I'm not sure if I should indulge them since I've heard some mixed reactions to them.
Thanks for the recommendations though, if you think of any more, please let me know.
Thanks for the recommendations though, if you think of any more, please let me know.
I haven't actually tried Haunting Ground yet, I just picked it up. But you play Fiona, who inherited the house she's in from her family and its haunted, and its a psychological game, you have that dog with you the entire time, I think he fights for you too.
Umm... Clock Tower 3, but I have no idea what that game plays like.
Stretch Panic, but again never tried it
Primal
But yeah, this has actually made me realize, there aren't a lot of games that do have female protagonists who share the qualities you're looking for.
But hopefully it will be on its way soon, I tend to have a better time finding these qualities in Anime's, maybe that means their more popular in Japanese games that didn't make it overseas... Hmm...
Umm... Clock Tower 3, but I have no idea what that game plays like.
Stretch Panic, but again never tried it
Primal
But yeah, this has actually made me realize, there aren't a lot of games that do have female protagonists who share the qualities you're looking for.
But hopefully it will be on its way soon, I tend to have a better time finding these qualities in Anime's, maybe that means their more popular in Japanese games that didn't make it overseas... Hmm...
when I initially read that I thought you were saying that because most post would think it to be shitty, but people wouldn't think that... would they? 'Ps2 Ghost in the Shell SAC (it's actually pretty fun)'
'Ps2 Ghost in the Shell SAC (it's actually pretty fun)'
when I initially read that I thought you were saying that because most post would think it to be shitty, but people wouldn't think that... would they?
when I initially read that I thought you were saying that because most post would think it to be shitty, but people wouldn't think that... would they?
eat and excrete the first one, and ignore the fact i'm slowly filling up your comments section with shit :D
That's ok, I'll forgive you hehe
Not to mention its not your fault since you can't delete a message, but I appreciate the post none-the-less
Not to mention its not your fault since you can't delete a message, but I appreciate the post none-the-less
I think the female you can play as in mass effect is pretty nice and classy... plus she's got attitude since she's a spectre! ( also the possibility to go for a male/female/alien-female love partner as you see fit is pretty cool)
Just how old is that "sexy" girl from Odin's Sphere? Oh, Japan.
It is interesting to think about what makes a girl in a media such as video games generally attractive. Is it the suggestive clothing? Or is someone like Xianghua more attractive than Ivy or Taki because she's modelled and dressed more like a realistic woman?
Did anyone actually find the Time Bitch from Prince of Persia II attractive?
Heather from Silent Hill III would be a good example of a realistic girl in a non-traditional role. As are Zoe and April Ryan in Dreamfall - both of them wear clothes, have feelings, aren't grunting and groaning for no particular reason.
Don't underestimate the value of having female protagonists in games like Knights of the Old Republic, Oblivion, and Mass Effect. My female Shepard in Mass Effect kicked equal amounts of ass as her male equivalent, and only got sexy once. With an alien chick. Of course, the amount of male players who choose female characters as their avatar, and are interested in women, is probably low.
What do you think? In an immersive game like these American (and Canadian) RPGs, do straight men choose female avatars for any reason other than a sexual one?
It is interesting to think about what makes a girl in a media such as video games generally attractive. Is it the suggestive clothing? Or is someone like Xianghua more attractive than Ivy or Taki because she's modelled and dressed more like a realistic woman?
Did anyone actually find the Time Bitch from Prince of Persia II attractive?
Heather from Silent Hill III would be a good example of a realistic girl in a non-traditional role. As are Zoe and April Ryan in Dreamfall - both of them wear clothes, have feelings, aren't grunting and groaning for no particular reason.
Don't underestimate the value of having female protagonists in games like Knights of the Old Republic, Oblivion, and Mass Effect. My female Shepard in Mass Effect kicked equal amounts of ass as her male equivalent, and only got sexy once. With an alien chick. Of course, the amount of male players who choose female characters as their avatar, and are interested in women, is probably low.
What do you think? In an immersive game like these American (and Canadian) RPGs, do straight men choose female avatars for any reason other than a sexual one?
I'm going to beat the dead horse with Phantasy Star because its what I'm currently playing right now.
I play with my three roommates, we're two girls and two guys. I chose a female avatar, because I like finding females but also because the hunter women are better at finding weapons so she's a good addition to the team. My one male roommate wanted to play as a female avatar also, but what turned him away is that they have less strength.
I don't know if that's a common thing from these type of RPG's since I haven't really played many, but if women are consistently less strong, it may be a reason why someone may not choose a female avatar.
But their other skills is something that may attract males, and in this case, they avatars aren't all that sexual
I play with my three roommates, we're two girls and two guys. I chose a female avatar, because I like finding females but also because the hunter women are better at finding weapons so she's a good addition to the team. My one male roommate wanted to play as a female avatar also, but what turned him away is that they have less strength.
I don't know if that's a common thing from these type of RPG's since I haven't really played many, but if women are consistently less strong, it may be a reason why someone may not choose a female avatar.
But their other skills is something that may attract males, and in this case, they avatars aren't all that sexual
Butterflies and Hurricanes, from what I know, it's not that frequent that women have varying attributes than men in western RPGs. So the women in Phantasy Star Online (for the GC?) are better at finding weapons? Interesting.
I just like that I could make a really fat ranger in the Dreamcast version and see how the gamers reacted to him online.
Back to your point, I think gender inequalities were removed from later versions of Dungeons and Dragons and therefore subsequent releases such as Baldur's Gate. I don't know if women have different stats in Oblivion, I wouldn't be surprised if they are more agile, less strong, better at conversations.
So you play as a woman primarily due to stat benefits? Very interesting.
I've also heard of male gamers choosing female avatars in MMORPGs because of the preferential treatment they receive from other players, who evidently believe the avatar reflects its controller.
I just like that I could make a really fat ranger in the Dreamcast version and see how the gamers reacted to him online.
Back to your point, I think gender inequalities were removed from later versions of Dungeons and Dragons and therefore subsequent releases such as Baldur's Gate. I don't know if women have different stats in Oblivion, I wouldn't be surprised if they are more agile, less strong, better at conversations.
So you play as a woman primarily due to stat benefits? Very interesting.
I've also heard of male gamers choosing female avatars in MMORPGs because of the preferential treatment they receive from other players, who evidently believe the avatar reflects its controller.
Yes it is the phantasy star for the GC, and again you can customize your characters up to their physical size, one of us is a short, stocky android that must weigh 2000 pounds you can hear him coming from a mile away its actually really funny.
And for me yeah, I do choose based on stat benefits, because really I want to get the most personalized game experience and if I want an in the middle of the brawl fighting experience a male is sometimes a better choice, they also have better defense and evasion.
And as for male gamers choosing females for better treatment, I've also taken a lot of flack for being a female gamer, but both genders encounter punks in anything they do, C'est la vie
And for me yeah, I do choose based on stat benefits, because really I want to get the most personalized game experience and if I want an in the middle of the brawl fighting experience a male is sometimes a better choice, they also have better defense and evasion.
And as for male gamers choosing females for better treatment, I've also taken a lot of flack for being a female gamer, but both genders encounter punks in anything they do, C'est la vie
