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60 cards are the requirement for tournament decks and really should NOT go any higher than such because it could make your deck slower.
So yeah, practice with 60 and you'll get better.
40 cards however is used in constructed gameplay. That's the amount you need in your deck if you play in a Booster Draft (You open a pack of cards... a total of three packs together... take one you want, then pass it to another player. You get someone else's pack, take a card, then pass it til 15 cards are sitting in front of you. Then you open the next pack.. then do it again)
Also, matches don't last that long... UNLESS you have two decks that completely counteract one another. I have been in games that have lasted over 2 hours before because someone couldnt get the upper hand and lots of thinking on your turn is involved.
So yeah, practice with 60 and you'll get better.
40 cards however is used in constructed gameplay. That's the amount you need in your deck if you play in a Booster Draft (You open a pack of cards... a total of three packs together... take one you want, then pass it to another player. You get someone else's pack, take a card, then pass it til 15 cards are sitting in front of you. Then you open the next pack.. then do it again)
Also, matches don't last that long... UNLESS you have two decks that completely counteract one another. I have been in games that have lasted over 2 hours before because someone couldnt get the upper hand and lots of thinking on your turn is involved.
It's been a while so I might be mistaken but I believe the answers are...
1. It varies on the decks being used (I've made decks with the sole purpose of draging out the game as long as possible). Typically though I think it's somewhere in the area of 30-45 minutes.
2. There is no max cap, 60 is just a good number to shoot for as a good deck size but you have to have at least 40 and no more than four of the same card.
3. Only if you spend a majority of your monthly income on new cards.
I used to have fun playing with my friends but when I moved and started playing with random strangers in card shops all the fun was sucked out of it. So U stopped playing and sold all my cards. I made about $500 though, so not a bad deal.
1. It varies on the decks being used (I've made decks with the sole purpose of draging out the game as long as possible). Typically though I think it's somewhere in the area of 30-45 minutes.
2. There is no max cap, 60 is just a good number to shoot for as a good deck size but you have to have at least 40 and no more than four of the same card.
3. Only if you spend a majority of your monthly income on new cards.
I used to have fun playing with my friends but when I moved and started playing with random strangers in card shops all the fun was sucked out of it. So U stopped playing and sold all my cards. I made about $500 though, so not a bad deal.
Oh, as for larger cards. If you have four in your deck (Which is the limit to most cards in a 60 card deck.) it shouldnt take too long to get out since you have four of them.. however, mana is another issue.
When I played, the minimum for any deck (not just booster drafts) was 40 cards, and most 40-card decks I saw were solely dedicated to one unstoppable, game-ending combo. Those games usually ended within a few minutes, but 30-45 minutes sounds about right for 60-card decks.
As mentioned above, if you have a card (or card combination) that you really want/need to use, make sure you have multiple copies in your deck if you can.
As mentioned above, if you have a card (or card combination) that you really want/need to use, make sure you have multiple copies in your deck if you can.
Brad, at least you didn't stay with pokemon cards from almost all of the sets until Diamond and Pearl. You sir are not a loser.
But yeah, magic is pretty fun, just it costs a lot of money.
But yeah, magic is pretty fun, just it costs a lot of money.
Though the first rule of Magic is "There is an exception to every rule." Here are the "standards"
60 cards minimum in a "constructed" (designed before the match) deck, 45 cards minimum in a "limited" (designed at the match, with cards from booster packs being "drafted" into your deck) deck.
Only 4 of any one card in a deck. The cards are determined by their names, and not what they represent. For example, you can have 4 "Kamahl, Pit Fighters" and 4 "Kamahl, Fist of Krosa" cards in the same deck, even though they're both cards representing Kamahl.
Games can last anywhere from between 5-10 minutes all the way up to a few hours. I had a game once that went on FOREVER because we were both playing very defensive decks and had life totals of over 100.
60 cards minimum in a "constructed" (designed before the match) deck, 45 cards minimum in a "limited" (designed at the match, with cards from booster packs being "drafted" into your deck) deck.
Only 4 of any one card in a deck. The cards are determined by their names, and not what they represent. For example, you can have 4 "Kamahl, Pit Fighters" and 4 "Kamahl, Fist of Krosa" cards in the same deck, even though they're both cards representing Kamahl.
Games can last anywhere from between 5-10 minutes all the way up to a few hours. I had a game once that went on FOREVER because we were both playing very defensive decks and had life totals of over 100.
I only got into Magic a few months ago, but I think I'm starting to get the rules down. It's a lot of fun once you get used to it. I have a ton of cards that I catalog on my computer in my free time, which just goes to show you how much more of a loser you could become (of course, I always tend to get overly obsessive when it comes to card games).
I'm still pretty "meh" at the game, I think, but I made a bitchin' Sliver deck that beats the crap out of nearly anybody I play. It's kinda cheap (in the sense that most of the creatures cost two mana and in the sense that it's an easy way to win), but it makes me feel better when I get beat down multiple times using another deck.
Oh, and 60 cards is the minimum, but your deck can be as large as you want it to be (provided you can still shuffle).
I'm still pretty "meh" at the game, I think, but I made a bitchin' Sliver deck that beats the crap out of nearly anybody I play. It's kinda cheap (in the sense that most of the creatures cost two mana and in the sense that it's an easy way to win), but it makes me feel better when I get beat down multiple times using another deck.
Oh, and 60 cards is the minimum, but your deck can be as large as you want it to be (provided you can still shuffle).
1) Match length usually varies on how long it takes to get all your shit out, It's 'the luck of the draw'.
2) 60 is average, I'm pretty sure the minimum is 40, and there is no real cap, but if you have 200 cards, it's unlikely that you'll get your 1 Doomgape or your 1 Black Lotus out.
3) Depends on what your definition of Loser it. If a loser is someone who has a good time playing one of the best CCGs out there, than yeah, you're a loser :)
2) 60 is average, I'm pretty sure the minimum is 40, and there is no real cap, but if you have 200 cards, it's unlikely that you'll get your 1 Doomgape or your 1 Black Lotus out.
3) Depends on what your definition of Loser it. If a loser is someone who has a good time playing one of the best CCGs out there, than yeah, you're a loser :)
fuck magic tournys, play with friends. my boy had a 120 card green deck back in the day. it took all 4 of us just to shuffle his deck before each game. also card limits and restrictions are gay. i used to have a black discard deck with 4 millstones etc. and other discarding artifacts. also alot of discarding black creatures.
I started with magic around 3rd edition. Stuck through 5th I think. And damn it was really hard to find people around here that played. I think I've got all my cards packed away somewhere under my mom's basement.
But geez it's been probably close to a decade now.
Hmmm maybe with a Live version I might just start getting back into it. Got to check that out.
But geez it's been probably close to a decade now.
Hmmm maybe with a Live version I might just start getting back into it. Got to check that out.
shit I used to play years ago, revised/4th stopped when Mirage came out.
Too many cards, too much change for me to get back in the game. Also I don't think there's as much money as there was in it. I mean I use to bet like 20$ on games and such, tournaments. In high school magic was my main source of income ;)
Deck wise a balanced deck would have 60 cards, more than that you lower your chances to get your key cards, then again a good deck does not rely on a low number of key cards. Complex combination are to avoid.
Too many cards, too much change for me to get back in the game. Also I don't think there's as much money as there was in it. I mean I use to bet like 20$ on games and such, tournaments. In high school magic was my main source of income ;)
Deck wise a balanced deck would have 60 cards, more than that you lower your chances to get your key cards, then again a good deck does not rely on a low number of key cards. Complex combination are to avoid.
Fewer cards is usually better because you have better odds of drawing your best ones (which you should always have four of). Once you get good, and are playing another good player, the game should be over before you've gone through a 40-card deck. Tight focused decks lead to short games one way or the other; I prefer to play a lean deck where I draw something I can use every turn. Be careful, though, because if you can't draw during your draw phase, you lose.
Also, invest in a $15 card shuffler. If you shuffle your own deck cautiously so as not to bend or scuff the cards, you can end up hosing yourself when you deal because everything ends up bunched together.
Also, invest in a $15 card shuffler. If you shuffle your own deck cautiously so as not to bend or scuff the cards, you can end up hosing yourself when you deal because everything ends up bunched together.
Fewer cards is usually better because you have better odds of drawing your best ones (which you should always have four of). Once you get good, and are playing another good player, the game should be over before you've gone through a 40-card deck. Tight focused decks lead to short games one way or the other; I prefer to play a lean deck where I draw something I can use every turn. Be careful, though, because if you can't draw during your draw phase, you lose.
Also, invest in a $15 card shuffler. If you shuffle your own deck cautiously so as not to bend or scuff the cards, you can end up hosing yourself when you deal because everything ends up bunched together.
Also, invest in a $15 card shuffler. If you shuffle your own deck cautiously so as not to bend or scuff the cards, you can end up hosing yourself when you deal because everything ends up bunched together.
Fewer cards is usually better because you have better odds of drawing your best ones (which you should always have four of). Once you get good, and are playing another good player, the game should be over before you've gone through a 40-card deck. Tight focused decks lead to short games one way or the other; I prefer to play a lean deck where I draw something I can use every turn. Be careful, though, because if you can't draw during your draw phase, you lose.
Also, invest in a $15 card shuffler. If you shuffle your own deck cautiously so as not to bend or scuff the cards, you can end up hosing yourself when you deal because everything ends up bunched together.
Also, invest in a $15 card shuffler. If you shuffle your own deck cautiously so as not to bend or scuff the cards, you can end up hosing yourself when you deal because everything ends up bunched together.
What the hell was that all about? I guess it's a bad idea to put your computer to sleep while a comment post is pending.
How long do matches last? Is it typical that a larger card like Doomgate doesn’t get drawn?
Game length largely depends on the type of decks being played. You can make combo decks with old, Type 1 cards that can end a game on turn 1 or 2 with a good draw. Or, you can build control decks that draw the game out until someone runs out of cards -- it really just depends. I'm not familiar with Doomgate (I haven't kept up on new cards in a while), but just because a card is "large" doesn't mean it's good. You need low casting-cost cards for the beginning of the game, or the big ones will never come out. The game isn't all about big cards, it's about exploiting cards that have a disproportionate power-to-mana-cost ratio.
Is the cap 60 cards? How many do the professionals use?
There is no maximum number of cards, because fewer cards is often better. You want to build decks with a particular focus; you want to end games in a consistent manner. The best way to do this is to focus on the synergy of your cards and keep the deck as small as possible to improve your chances of drawing the appropriate cards. That said, the minimum for a constructed deck is 60 cards. However, in booster drafts, decks of 40 cards are allowed.
When building decks you want to focus on one or two colors and try to exploit their strengths (i.e. blue is great for control and card drawing, red is good for direct damage, green is great for creatures and mana production, etc.). You need to understand how card advantage comes into play and how some cards are valuable simply because they thin out your deck and speed up your search for your "win condition."
Am I becoming a loser?
Most likely, yes. Honestly, the game is ridiculously fun and I used to be quite good at it. However, since coming to law school, I've found that I don't have anyone to play with. I'll jump on Magic the Gathering: Online every once in a while and I'll definitely be playing one it hits XBLA. Let me know if you ever want to play some time.
I actually bought a few preconstructed decks a few weeks ago because I wanted to play again. The girlfriend agreed to give it a shot, but it's a lot to learn if you're not really interested.
Game length largely depends on the type of decks being played. You can make combo decks with old, Type 1 cards that can end a game on turn 1 or 2 with a good draw. Or, you can build control decks that draw the game out until someone runs out of cards -- it really just depends. I'm not familiar with Doomgate (I haven't kept up on new cards in a while), but just because a card is "large" doesn't mean it's good. You need low casting-cost cards for the beginning of the game, or the big ones will never come out. The game isn't all about big cards, it's about exploiting cards that have a disproportionate power-to-mana-cost ratio.
Is the cap 60 cards? How many do the professionals use?
There is no maximum number of cards, because fewer cards is often better. You want to build decks with a particular focus; you want to end games in a consistent manner. The best way to do this is to focus on the synergy of your cards and keep the deck as small as possible to improve your chances of drawing the appropriate cards. That said, the minimum for a constructed deck is 60 cards. However, in booster drafts, decks of 40 cards are allowed.
When building decks you want to focus on one or two colors and try to exploit their strengths (i.e. blue is great for control and card drawing, red is good for direct damage, green is great for creatures and mana production, etc.). You need to understand how card advantage comes into play and how some cards are valuable simply because they thin out your deck and speed up your search for your "win condition."
Am I becoming a loser?
Most likely, yes. Honestly, the game is ridiculously fun and I used to be quite good at it. However, since coming to law school, I've found that I don't have anyone to play with. I'll jump on Magic the Gathering: Online every once in a while and I'll definitely be playing one it hits XBLA. Let me know if you ever want to play some time.
I actually bought a few preconstructed decks a few weeks ago because I wanted to play again. The girlfriend agreed to give it a shot, but it's a lot to learn if you're not really interested.
unclegus, it took me 8 days to come up with this, but I think we'll all agree that the results were worth it:
Go fuck yourself.
Go fuck yourself.
