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I didn't want any of Portal spoiled for me, but after hearing allusions and such, a completed the spoil and found the mp3 for Still Alive. Was there anyway for me to avoid spoilers for Portal? yep. Either play the game, or stop frequenting the internet.
I'll still play it and enjoy it when I get to it, but frequenting a site that really discusses games "hardcore", its likely that at some point, people are going to stop being spoiler sensitive, and just start talking open about plot points.
I didn't want any of Portal spoiled for me, but after hearing allusions and such, a completed the spoil and found the mp3 for Still Alive. Was there anyway for me to avoid spoilers for Portal? yep. Either play the game, or stop frequenting the internet.
I'll still play it and enjoy it when I get to it, but frequenting a site that really discusses games "hardcore", its likely that at some point, people are going to stop being spoiler sensitive, and just start talking open about plot points.
Dude, anyone who's clicked on ANY of Atlas's blogs has had bioshock spoiled. And I've had a couple of games spoiled while reading, but really, it's a small price to pay for such a great web community.
*gives boolean tissue*
*gives boolean tissue*
Ultimately if you don't want endings spoiled don't read any discussions about them. The thing is, if you're hanging out with a "games are art" crowd, then they want to discuss plot, and that means that you might want to leave and play it lest your hear spoilers spill out by accident.
I read in a blog that some achievement lists contain spoilers. For example, in Bioshock one of the achievements is "take a picture of Sander Cohen's corpse". Well, the developers themselves just let slip that Cohen wasn't going to make it.
And seriously, there's a big difference between someone telling you about the ending and then seeing it yourself.
I read in a blog that some achievement lists contain spoilers. For example, in Bioshock one of the achievements is "take a picture of Sander Cohen's corpse". Well, the developers themselves just let slip that Cohen wasn't going to make it.
And seriously, there's a big difference between someone telling you about the ending and then seeing it yourself.
*Note, I didn't insert that spoiler to be a douche, I was making a point. If you haven't read that post yet, skip the second paragraph.
I don't get the argument "it's your own fault". Seriously? Because I didn't have the money or time to buy a game right at release means that I require it to be spoiled for me?
I definitely had Bioshock spoiled for me on more than one dtoid podcast. It's unfortunate, as I was spoiled as I was playing through it :(
My only comfort is that they did not spoil the entire sequence.
I definitely had Bioshock spoiled for me on more than one dtoid podcast. It's unfortunate, as I was spoiled as I was playing through it :(
My only comfort is that they did not spoil the entire sequence.
Jim talks funny.
And wardrox sounds like the peasants from warcraft 3.
More work?
Off i go then!
Yes me lord?
See? Can't you jsut imagine wardrox doing the voice overs for the peasants in warcraft 3?
And wardrox sounds like the peasants from warcraft 3.
More work?
Off i go then!
Yes me lord?
See? Can't you jsut imagine wardrox doing the voice overs for the peasants in warcraft 3?
I was going to do a write up about this, although with a decidedly different tone. :p
To me, having things spoiled is just a consequence of being part of an online community. With so many gamers all over the place having such different gaming preferences and priorities, you're guaranteed to meet people who have played and will want to talk about games you haven't played yet. This isn't a neighborhood group of friends who hang out every weekend to play and share the same games, it's a large community thousands of members strong.
It sucks, but all you can do about it is either expect people to only talk about games you've played and finished, or to spend a large chunk of time screening things before you actually read them to see if there are any spoilers. The former is unrealistic, the latter - to me at least - isn't worth the time.
Honestly I'm not sure how you can expect to listen to a podcast that doesn't spoil something.
To me, having things spoiled is just a consequence of being part of an online community. With so many gamers all over the place having such different gaming preferences and priorities, you're guaranteed to meet people who have played and will want to talk about games you haven't played yet. This isn't a neighborhood group of friends who hang out every weekend to play and share the same games, it's a large community thousands of members strong.
It sucks, but all you can do about it is either expect people to only talk about games you've played and finished, or to spend a large chunk of time screening things before you actually read them to see if there are any spoilers. The former is unrealistic, the latter - to me at least - isn't worth the time.
Honestly I'm not sure how you can expect to listen to a podcast that doesn't spoil something.
I hate to sound like a dick, but a surefire way to avoid spoilers is to stay off the internet. I didn't have Bioshock or Portal or Half Life Ep. 2 or any other recent game spoiled for me because I played them when they came out. If you want to wait a year+ after a game comes out to play it then read at your own risk.
Aeris kills Atlus and then dies.
Zelda was Sheir.
Dorothy had the power to go home the whole time.
All of Super Mario Bros. 2 was a dream.
Hitler dies.
Terrorists win.
Counter Terrorists win.
Fatality.
Zelda was Sheir.
Dorothy had the power to go home the whole time.
All of Super Mario Bros. 2 was a dream.
Hitler dies.
Terrorists win.
Counter Terrorists win.
Fatality.
I won't get in the middle of this debate, but I just had to say one thing:
That drunk girl story? FUCK I would pay good money to see that entire event unfold. The consoling part was the highlight.
That drunk girl story? FUCK I would pay good money to see that entire event unfold. The consoling part was the highlight.
For the most part I agree with your rant (Bioshock was spoiled for me after looking at Atlas's blog...). I understand people want to talk about the plot of a game, but spoiling on purpose sucks.
And I too hate the "If you haven't played it x weeks/months after the release then it's your own fault" argument. That's simply moronic.
And I too hate the "If you haven't played it x weeks/months after the release then it's your own fault" argument. That's simply moronic.
Half-Life 2 so far,
Alyx's dad dies
COD4
Evey one else dies except you and McTavish, and the russian asshole.
Gears of War,
Nothing really happens/ N/A
Gutar Hero 3,
YOU ARE FAGS!
Wii Sports,
Nothing happens.
Warcraft 3,
Human prince guy turns into undead.
Super Monkey Ball,
You get to the credits.
Portal,
the whole place blows up.
Conan,
You see boobs, and then get armour and thats it.
Thats all i can think of now.
Alyx's dad dies
COD4
Evey one else dies except you and McTavish, and the russian asshole.
Gears of War,
Nothing really happens/ N/A
Gutar Hero 3,
YOU ARE FAGS!
Wii Sports,
Nothing happens.
Warcraft 3,
Human prince guy turns into undead.
Super Monkey Ball,
You get to the credits.
Portal,
the whole place blows up.
Conan,
You see boobs, and then get armour and thats it.
Thats all i can think of now.
you told me her friend comes in at the end!
damnit i was hoping for her bitch-slapping you ending.
way to RUIN that one. jerk.
damnit i was hoping for her bitch-slapping you ending.
way to RUIN that one. jerk.
"And I too hate the "If you haven't played it x weeks/months after the release then it's your own fault" argument. That's simply moronic."
No, what's moronic is expecting thousands of people to not talk about something because somebody hasn't played it yet. There is usually a few week moratorium on discussing key spoilers on games, but after that all bets are off. If you really want to play a game, buy it when it comes out. If you can't get it when it comes out, stay off gaming websites. Don't expect the majority to cater to you just because that's the way you want it.
No, what's moronic is expecting thousands of people to not talk about something because somebody hasn't played it yet. There is usually a few week moratorium on discussing key spoilers on games, but after that all bets are off. If you really want to play a game, buy it when it comes out. If you can't get it when it comes out, stay off gaming websites. Don't expect the majority to cater to you just because that's the way you want it.
@weedgan: lol, I noted that about wardrox in a Podcastle post about a month ago. Sadly, Jim never made fun of him for it. Cie la vie. Maybe Jim could at least get Wardrox to say those lines and then we could compare.
@weedgan
Alyx's dad dies
Hey, they never confirmed that! He might still be alive. :(
Evey one else dies except you and McTavish, and the russian asshole.
I thought you were McTavish. Isn't it Gaz that survives with you?
Alyx's dad dies
Hey, they never confirmed that! He might still be alive. :(
Evey one else dies except you and McTavish, and the russian asshole.
I thought you were McTavish. Isn't it Gaz that survives with you?
@ GrayFox:
I just don't understand what the hell the release date has to do with it. Even if a game came out twenty years ago, it's not nice to give away key spoilers without warning. Of course you can discuss them, but don't deliberately smash them into peoples faces. It's really not that hard.
I just don't understand what the hell the release date has to do with it. Even if a game came out twenty years ago, it's not nice to give away key spoilers without warning. Of course you can discuss them, but don't deliberately smash them into peoples faces. It's really not that hard.
I guess the point is if you really cared about the game that much then you would have played it by now. But I do agree that people who take pleasure in randomly yelling out spoilers are kind of dicks. Just avoid threads or blogs about the game you don't want spoiled and you really shouldn't have any problems.
Perry Simm: Would it be a spoiler to say King Kong dies at the end? It's an 80 year old movie. What' the scene everyone knows? The part where he's on top of the skyscraper with planes filling him with lead. What do you think is going to be the result?
Sure, the people who go into bookstores on the launch day of a harry potter book and spoil it are pretty lame, but if the ending of something is common knowledge, I think it ceases to be a spoiler.
Sure, the people who go into bookstores on the launch day of a harry potter book and spoil it are pretty lame, but if the ending of something is common knowledge, I think it ceases to be a spoiler.
Thanks to Dtoid, the Bioshock spoiler is drilled into my head to the point that I can't forget it if I tried. When I get around to playing the game, it would be pointless to ignore that little spoiler lurking in the back of my brain. To quote Futurama, "You've watched it, you can't un-watch it!"
I've been kinda convinced by arguments on both sides of this issue, but it still sucks when that "Whoah, cool" moment you get from completing something is taken away from you.
I guess the internet is good for ruining a lot of things.
I've been kinda convinced by arguments on both sides of this issue, but it still sucks when that "Whoah, cool" moment you get from completing something is taken away from you.
I guess the internet is good for ruining a lot of things.
I kinda agree with you, except less angry. I usually get games waaaay after release and suffer from the same problem of endings getting spoiled for me, too. But it's impossible to prevent this from happening, people want to talk about stuff.
I just rely on my unreliable memory that by the time I play the game, I've forgotten the spoiler.
I just rely on my unreliable memory that by the time I play the game, I've forgotten the spoiler.
@ WDot:
Well, King Kong dying isn't really what I would consider that kind of a plot twist, that changes your view on all the things that happened before. But I wouldn't for example spoil the meaning of Rosebud in Citizen Kane. Even if it's from 1941.
And of course, there are things that have become common knowledge and kind of iconic. I mean, I'm playing FFVII now for the first time, knowing that I shouldn't put too much effort in leveling up Aeris. That kind of sucks, but I accept it. But it shouldn't be the rule.
Well, King Kong dying isn't really what I would consider that kind of a plot twist, that changes your view on all the things that happened before. But I wouldn't for example spoil the meaning of Rosebud in Citizen Kane. Even if it's from 1941.
And of course, there are things that have become common knowledge and kind of iconic. I mean, I'm playing FFVII now for the first time, knowing that I shouldn't put too much effort in leveling up Aeris. That kind of sucks, but I accept it. But it shouldn't be the rule.
