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360, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways...
BlindsideDork | 10:41 AM on 03.31.2008 62 comments


Xbox 360, a current console that has been out for almost two & half years but not without its problems. But will the problems ever cease? Frustration is the name of the game and is at an all time high here.



1. Probably the most common problem is the Red Ring of Death. As most say, "it isn't a question of if but when." This is all too true. I personally am on my fourth console. The first time I ever turned on my 360 I got a RRoD (fixed with power cord trick) and one of my other consoles got it after five minutes of usage.
Note: That is actually one of my RRoD's.


2. Error, your disc I cannot read. How hard is it to read a disc? They are made for you 360, they crave you to read them and you don't. How can you abandon them like that? This isn't a big concern with me since I've only had it once with my copy of Gears of War, but some other people have had more problems than myself. Especially with Rock Band, I hear.



3. The death of the ports can make people very sad. I'm not talking about porting games, but ethernet and USB ports. Not sure if anyone remembered but I had issues with my ethernet port that was magically fixed in a special way. A bigger issue is a USB port problem. The rear USB port on my 360 no longer works. Why? No one knows...it just stopped working. Hooray for great construction!


4. Ready for lift off? If you aren't, I know my 360 is. Well at least it sounds ready to take off. Or is that noise just a way of it telling me that it is old and ready to die on me?


5. How can we forget the DRM issues? dvddesign has had many issues that have all been but completely answered. He actually now has 12 out of 20 DRM's recovered, but those missing eight could spell heartbreak. I never thought of this, but I might have this problem as well since I have had a few RRoD's in the past.



6. Brr, it is freezing in here. My 360 sure thinks so. Either that or it thinks it's funny by pretending to mimic the weather and freeze on me! This is not a satirical environment, this is a gaming environment. Don't quit your day job and play me some vidja games!
Shopp'd picture by -D-.

7. Controllers have a short life expectancy. These darn things don't live long but I suppose that is why they are found in numbers in the wild. A weird happenstance happened when my 360 froze. My controller had just died so I plugged it in to charge and play, the system freezes and I restart the console. Lo' and behold when I turn the sucker back on, my charge kit gives me the green lit. Why was it lit so soon? Regardless of the answer, it made my controller's life expectancy significantly less. Poor controller, your life has come to soon while everyone else runs and frolicks around in full lives.



Anymore than seven would be nitpicking though. And sure there is the three year warranty for the system, but that only covers RRoD. What is a gamer to do if they have no RRoD, besides fake the RRoD? And if you do fake or get a RRoD, you run into DRM issues. It is like a never ending cycle!

This just makes me so frustrated. I just wish the console worked as requested. I give you $400, you give me a console that operates correctly. Is that too much to ask for? Problems 6 & 7 have been hitting me hard recently. I wish this was an exaggeration but it seems my system has had problems more times than it hasn't. So much frustation is leading me to thoughts of abandonment and adoption. Abandoning the Xbox 360 and adopting a PC gaming rig. It is tantalizing and scary to think about.

What the frickin' monkey butt lovin', just give me a console that works!



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Justice's Destructoid Blog
Good list, although I haven't experienced any fo the problems, I'm sorry to hear about your fight against the system.
Surf314's Destructoid Blog
I used to be all about the 360. But mine has ROD'd twice.

Honestly I buy games for the PS3 now over the 360 just because of how bad I got burned the day I spent searching for Guitar Hero 2 driving way out of my way, just barely making it before the store closed. Buying it bringing it home and having the stupid thing ROD 5 minutes in.

I'm too scared I'm gonna get all excited over a game and then have to wait 2-4 weeks to play it.
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
The exclusive games on the 360 out weigh all your negative nancy whining.

Also, sorry about your RRoD. It happens to us all.
-D-'s Destructoid Blog
#4 hits me close to home. Sometimes I feel like I should throw on some ear muffs and grab some light sticks.

As for #7, I think those play and charge kits are a bad idea. My friend is having a similar issue which leads me to believe it's those little bastards.
shipero's Destructoid Blog
"It is tantalizing and scary to think about."

Embrace the fear! Building a decent gaming PC isn't as hard or expensive as people think. If you've never done it before just get some advice from someone who has, like CaffinePowered.
Cowzilla3's Destructoid Blog
"This is not a satirical environment, this is a gaming environment."

I hate when my consoles get all satrirical on my ass. I'm like, bitch let me play my games and stop using your humor to comment on the weather.

I lold.
MaxVest's Destructoid Blog
@Snaileb: But if he gets a gaming PC, then he can play all the 360 "exclusives".

I would like to see numbers on how the newer chipsets are doing, though. If Microsoft can get their fail rates on a particular model under 5%, I would not be opposed to getting a 360. I think that's my upper risk limit.
glipe's Destructoid Blog
I get disk problems all the time since they "fixed" my latest console. MS makes me cry.
ajay42's Destructoid Blog
"Especially with Rock Band, I hear."

Oh god yes. I remember the first time we plowed through Foreplay/Longtime with the whole band on hard only to be greated with a "disc read error" instead of fans at the end of the song. I think I actually choked back tears...
AirborneToxicEvent's Destructoid Blog
I don't plan on buying another console. Those little updates you see your console asking you if you want to let it apply will cost 2000 ms points in the future. I'm building a hot new rig as soon as I'm done with this program, then my console will collect dust again. I own the gay Halo 3 edition, and the only issues I can relate with ATM are the "lift off" and freeze ones. The only game that freezes is Rainbow Six Las Vegas (1 not 1.5).
bloodylip's Destructoid Blog
Although my 360 is newer than most, I get freezes and it sounds like a helicopter is taking off in my living room. Also, if I stick my hand in the slot of my TV stand that the 360 is in, it feels like I stuck it in the oven. Perhaps I can bake cookies above it.

OTOH, I think the P&C kit is to blame. I use standard AA batteries (my wife gets 4-packs for < $1) and they last extremely long. Much longer than my wii remotes.
blehman's Destructoid Blog
Yeah, #4 hits close to home.
Velt's Destructoid Blog
I live in south america, I was going to buy a 360 in august last year. You people are lucky, the only way to get a game down here for the 360 without having to pay 100 dollars for it is to crack the 360. So I would have bought one, cracked it (loose the warranty), and then the thing would have died. So i didnt buy one.

I have a friend that thinks im exagerating, that i just hate it. I hate it. But I hate it because I wanted it to be a good and reliable piece of hardware (like my old snes), and to work like it is supossed to so i can buy one and enjoy games.
Im not going to buy one until microsoft gets its act together and releases a model that doesnt bring so much pain to the consumer.
until then, my money goes into nvidia and pc parts.
SoopaFly TNT's Destructoid Blog
I just recently sold my XBOX on eBay. I figured that I would cut my loses. After getting RROD for the third time, I exchanged it at Best Buy and sold the new one on eBay. I am glad I was not the only one with controller issues. The controllers seem to go bad quicker than the system. I got tired of the problems I had with it and sold my XBOX and got a PS3. Now I am happy. Oh by the way, there is only a couple of "exclusives" that are even worth getting on the XBOX in the near future: GOW2 and maybe Ninja Gaiden, but it looks like the Ninja Gaiden on PS3. I don't think the "exclusives" argument works anymore. Oh anyone that wants to add me on PSN.....Vendetta3
GuitarAtomik's Destructoid Blog
All the consoles have their problems. Granted the Xbox 360 has the most hardware wise and it's really ridiculous, but I have all kinds of tiny problems with my PS3. I've already chronicled the first set when I first got it, and now that I re-bought it, I can add a new issue about it not outputting sound all of a sudden.

My Wii has it's own set of problems that I'm sure everyone has most of which with me is the fact that there's barely anything to play on it that I like.

My own X360 has RROD'd on me once but I haven't had any of those other issues you've had before or since. I know that doesn't mean those issues don't exist and RRODing once is too many but guess what? While it was away and I bought my PS3, I played the least amount of videogames I've ever played in a looong time. And not for lack of trying.

I don't know. This blog just seems like random flaming since none of these issues are new
Hitogoroshi's Destructoid Blog
Damn dude. That fucking sucks hard.
Cloud09's Destructoid Blog
So far I've had my 360 for about 4 months and no problems yet. Also have a friend thats had one for a year and a few months and his hasn't given him any trouble either. I'm hoping if anything goes wrong it'll be something small like the controller dying.
king3vbo's Destructoid Blog
FANBOY
LostCrichton's Destructoid Blog
Mine sometimes freezes and I've RRoD once, right before Halo 3 came out.
linuxguy's Destructoid Blog
I keep on wondering how M$ gets away with it!
NotAZombie's Destructoid Blog
@ king

zombiekiller13's Destructoid Blog
My little brother got a 360 for Christmas. I had yet to actually see one outside of a store, so when I walked in to his room during a visit to the 'rents, I was surprised to hear how loud the console was.

"Is that...it that your 360?" I asked. He nodded.

I then said "Jesus christ, is it preparing for lift-off?"

So yeah...I used the same joke as #4...just never posted it to the Internet.
DrNutt's Destructoid Blog
I guess the only people who complain about the sounds the 360 makes are people who don't get to play with the volume up for fear of waking their parents.

But the controller thing really bugs me. The controller that came with my goddamn elite has never worked properly since day one. No matter what, the analog stick perpetually moves down very slowly, which isn't a big deal for some games, but gets annoying really fast in DoA4.
Y0j1mb0's Destructoid Blog
This blog just seems like random flaming since none of these issues are new.

The exclusive games on the 360 out weigh all your negative nancy whining.

Because issues are not new doesn't mean they don't need to be highlighted. Quite the opposite really, If those issues haven't been addressed they need to be talked of more.

Exclusive games ... Halo3, Gear of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, and I'll throw in Crackdown cause I really like that game. Stop whining because you spend 300 + dollars on a system and it's the most unreliable piece of shit known to man. But do console yourself with the fact that when it's in repairs you can look at your exclusive games.

lol.
BlindsideDork's Destructoid Blog
I gots the roomates and lease agreements not to be too loud after a certain time. I am moving soon.
Shin Oni's Destructoid Blog
My 360 so far is so so. I can't complain with the games but with games freezing (so far Naruto Dynasty Warrior 6, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and mainly Rainbow Six Vegas. both 1 and 1.5.) and mine does sound like it's about to take flight. Maybe to MS to rob me even more. if I get a RRoD, I'll exchange it at best buy or either just use it for the PC building parts or a PS3.
GuitarAtomik's Destructoid Blog
@Y0j1mb0

I don't know. This blog just feels as relevant as someone making another blog about how SSBB's online mode is fucked. There's really nothing new to add here besides new shoop'd pics.

I guess I just expect more from BSD.
GrayFox's Destructoid Blog
No issue here after 8 months (knocks on wood) but I do feel for those who have problems. It's kind of incredible how long it has taken Microsoft to correct this issue.

Apparently the newer chipsets are much more reliable but there aren't any definite numbers out. And even if they don't get RROD there is still a chance they're using the same old garbage dvd drives.

If they would just give the failure victims a reliable refurb (i.e. falcon chipset) then it wouldn't be such an issue, but the refurbs appear to be made out of garbage and are actually much less reliable than the 1st generation consoles on average. I have no idea what Microsoft are doing but I hope they have a plan by the time mine bricks.
GrayFox's Destructoid Blog
On the bright side though, my buddy just got his back and it sounds quiet as hell with no issues whatsoever. Maybe they are starting to do it right?
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
Yojimbo : I've been fine with the 360, haven't had to look at my games, what the fuck are you even talking about? You can't argue with someone who's happy, sorry.

Guitar Atomik : Nothing new.
GrayFox's Destructoid Blog
Don't worry about him, Yojimbo just can't pass up an opportunity to dump on the 360 for some reason. We know, we know, it's unreliable.
Y0j1mb0's Destructoid Blog
Yup..that's what I do..dump on the 360. I live for that. I'm not the one posting how it's RROD on me. I'm just commenting.

As far as what the fuck I'm talking about Snaileb, you didn't get what I said? Or posted. Did I encrypt something that I need to decipher for you.

It amazes me when someone offers a counterpoint to your opinion Snaileb out comes the fucks and whatnot. Or the what's wrong with you crap? Be blissful in your ignorance if you want.

Oh and thanks for the laugh of the day for me with your prior quote that contradictaes what you just posted..Also, sorry about your RRoD. It happens to us all.

Funny stuff and also quite telling.
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
I'm glad a 36 year old as yourself enjoys pressing F5 on the c-blogs looking for a reason to be a dick to us college kids. Very mature, and forgive me if I have to decypher your dickish code on why should just look at my 360 games. Actually, I could tell you were being a condesending dick, obviously it's not hard since that's all your comments seem to be, but I threw that out there anyways, and here you are making sure I know what's what. Good job. Dick.

What the fuck are you talking about?

lol
-D-'s Destructoid Blog
This post is turning into Rainbow Six: Vegas 2.
tazarthayoot's Destructoid Blog
DID SOMEBODAY SAY CRUSCHEV?!
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
Seriously, I don't need someone on the internet telling me all coyish and sumbliminally that I'm ignorant, wrong, and dumb. That's just bad form. Go fuck yourself.
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
Over a fucking comment about a fucking console for fucks sakes. Is that enough fucks for your douchebaggery to form a rebutal on? Geez us christ.
bhive01's Destructoid Blog
Fsck.


Am I doing it rite?
Y0j1mb0's Destructoid Blog
Amazingly this is not the response I expected of you. I gave you more credit... Let's use colorful metaphors against y0j1mb0, call him names, talk of age ( WTF? ) and close it with you got butt hurt cause someone said something unflattering about the 360.

Next time you may want to talk about my wife and kids too.

I'll refrain from calling you anything derogatory because I never had an issue with you in the first place. All I was doing was reiterating a point.
pedrovay2003's Destructoid Blog
NOTHING justifies the shitty manufacturing quality of the Xbox 360. Not exclusives, not a comfortable controller, not the online experience. Nothing matters, because if your console doesn't work, then how can you enjoy all the good stuff about it?

There's absolutely NO excuse for how the 360 is built. I did the same thing SoopaFly did, and I'm MUCH happier with the PS3.
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
I brought your age into this because of you're immaturity,though your comments arequite cleverish, calling me dumb, ignorant, and wrong in a subliminally coyish manner. Don't think because you reply with a post in jest that you "didn't mean it that way".

And seriously, I dont care about the 360, I have a Wii, NES, SNES, Sega, Dreamcast, Blah blah blah the list goes fucking on. Nice try trying to associate me as a fanboy, when in accuality Im fed up with your ridiculous way or handling one sided conversations.

And how the fuck are you going to Private Message me telling me to "keep it out of the c-blogs" and then blatantly call me and my values about other peoples opinions in the public a week later here? I honestly couldn't care where you decide to be a dick so what was the point?
MaxVest's Destructoid Blog
I google imaged "internet fight," and this was the third result.

Tragic Hero's Destructoid Blog
Geez, you two are arguing like my parents. The only thing missing is me getting beat with a belt for not taking out the garbage...

Anyways, all Blindsides points are the main things I see wrong with consoles. It's not like back in the day where you are paying 100-200 for a console that worked 100% but now you are dropping 400-500 dollars on a system that might fry on you or cause all sorts of problems.

Thats why I PC game.
tazarthayoot's Destructoid Blog
FUCK PC GAMES! ALL I DO IS PLAY WITH A CONTROLLER ALL DAY EVERY DAY!
Snaileb 's Destructoid Blog
I'm not arguing that the 360 is a piece of shit hardware, I make sure to let everyone know that when they ask me what console to buy, there's no arguement there.

I'm arguing the fact that Yojimbo can't seem to make any kind of comment or rebutal without being an immature 36 year old douche bag.
shipero's Destructoid Blog
@Tragic Hero & Tazar

You're both idiots, gaming has been in a steady downward declince ever since Tiger Handhelds fell out of popularity.


The only version of Symphony of the Night that's worth a damn.
Tragic Hero's Destructoid Blog
@shipero

I had so many of these growing up. I had Megaman 2, Simons Quest, Double Dragon, Batman, and all of them ended up getting thrown against a wall sooner or later.
shipero's Destructoid Blog
@Tragic Hero

Oh god yes, the Tiger handheld version of Virtual Fighter is the most infuriating game experiences I've ever had. Dural was so cheap.
BluDesign's Destructoid Blog
I only posted it 24 hours ago, but apparently it needs to be posted again.
brainderailment's Destructoid Blog
The problem with telling people to stop whining about it is, that is how Microsoft has gotten away with not truly fixing their console yet. If more people made more of a shitstorm, i'd be willing to bet that we'd hear about a completely fixed console by now.


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