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Hello guys, let me start off by saying that this isnt gonna be a fanboy post about how much Sony sucks etc etc, im just gonna tell about what happened to me and how it has ruined my will to even continue playing on the console anymore.
This seems like a nice community, been hangin around here for alittle more then a year, never got the thumb out of my ass to register though, and im just doin this post to get some feedback, or maybe a newspost to see if this has happened to anybody else or something.

Im swedish btw so if i make grammatical errors of some kind i blame it on the ABBA..

About six-seven weeks ago my PS3 broke down. The discreader got messed up while i was playing Fight Night Round 4(as mike Tyson i might add, hes so powerful he breaks shit even when hes in a game), and it just stopped reading discs.
You can imagine my sheer horror and depression as this was the first fuckin day of my vacation, and the first vacation i've had in 6 damn years. My mind went ballistic for 5 hours or so saing to myself that ill buy a new ps3 here and now so i can continue to play n shit, even though i had the 3 year factory warranty left on it.
When i later came to my senses and realized i didnt have the money to buy a new ps3 and that i had a 360 i could play on instead, i later calmed down alittle but i was still really angry since ive put all my energy on the ps3 and trophies etc. I even resorted to starting up my WoW-char again just to make some time pass and that is fuckin horrible hahaha xD.

Before i left my ps3 to service i made a backup of the entire HDD and saved all of my savefiles to a SD-card as ive done so many times before, cause i knew there is no way in hell ill get my ps3 back in the state it is now, those fuckers are probably gonna restore the HDD etc.

Anyway, the weeks passed and time seemed endless until the day last week when i got a sms on my phone stating that my console is now ready for pickup. The entire world of Narnia appeared infront of my eyes, and i saw small versions of Carter from fab5 dancing infront of my eyes, yes it was glorious to say the least.
The day after i positioned myself in my car, put on Ennio Morricone - The ecstasy of gold on the stereo and began my quest to get my console. Everything went fine when i picked it up even though i had fears that the assholes in the store was gonna charge me something because i put in a 320gb, and they where gonna claim i failed warranty cause of it. Dont ask me why i thought it, i was just ready for anything.
This was on the releaseday of Arkham Asylum here i Swe, so i took the chance to pick that up also as ive been waiting for it along time now, the happiness i felt was endless, this was gonna be a fuckin sweet weekend.

My friend and me journeyed back to my place, ready to get some awesomeness.
I opened up the box i got the ps3 in, started to hook it up to the TV and got that glorious "When you try to hook some electronics up to the TV sweat" that you get, you know when your forehead and back gets all sticky and nice(and since my back is really hairy it feels like constantly havin' a wet dog pressed up to you all the time).

I started up the shit, got a msg that i have to format the HDD and i press yes since there was no other option, and i didnt really worry considering that i had it backed up.
I got through the usual clock/date setup shit and when im finally done, i go to system settings and start up the system restore.
During this time me and my pal is performing the Safety Dance here in my living room, calling to the ancient spirits of Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon.

But all of the sudden shit stops...
The console is telling me that because this is a _different_ console from the one i made my backup on, some shit isnt going to be copied over.
WTF? Ok, might aswell continue and see what happens.
The restore is done and the console is rebooting. When i get in, all of my old accs is there. My EU and US account, the whole shebang.
Only problem is that those are the only things that the restore put in, _nothing_ else.
All of my savefiles, all of my gamedata, the tons of games i downloaded from PSN, everything is gone.
Those of you who have lost savefiles before can understand the panic thats starting come over me now.
I try to restore once more with the same results. Next step was to take my SD card and transfer the savefiles from there, but since its another PS3(dont know if its refurbished or a new system) they wont give me trophies. They work with some games, like Fallout 3, but whenever i get a trophie i get a msg that "since this is a savefile from another console, you are not eligable to get this trophy" or some shit, wich to me also makes the savefiles utterly useless.

I have about 1100+ trophies and im pushing 13% or so on lvl 13, so trophies has been a big deal for me, but now im totally screwed when it comes to that . Games i have 1-3 trophies or so left on, im never gonna get again.
Like Dead Space, i have the "clear the game on hardest difficulty" trophy left on, wich im not gonna get. I spent 3 playthroughs on that game to get to where i was with the military armor and all, and was halfway through it, now i have to do it all again.
Infamous i was on the hard playthrough and had only 7 meteorshards left to have collected all of em, im not gonna play that again, runnin around lookin for that shit .
Rock Band 2 i spent countless hours to 100% everything, getting 1million dollars trophy etc and i was so close, but now i have to do it again.

These are just some examples but i have many of em .
I also got my friends accounts on my console so we can DL games from eachother, and theyve got mine, but now since my console is registered to my old console, when i tried to connect to my profile and start DLing my old games from PSN, it said i had exceeded the allowed number of consoles i can have my profile on, so now i have to delete my acc on a pals console so he looses all his game that he dled from me. Not that that is a really big problem, its just really pissy for him and for me.
Im gonna try to call Sony Sweden on Monday to see if they can help me or something, but judging from previous encounters ive had with em, this problem is gonna be permanent.

As i said before, i aint tryin to make this a fanboy post, I just wanted to tell you nice guys about my problem, and how damn hopeless i feel.
If you ever lost a savefile that was really important, youve had that feeling. Now imagine probably 1000+ hours just thrown away, its fuckin horrible and i just dont know what to do . I like having things at 100% so im gonna go fuckin insane lookin at my trophy-list seeing games with just 1 trophy left and not having the energy to put all of that previous effort into em again.

Dont know what there is left to say, or what im gonna do for that matter. If im gonna continue trophy-hunting on my ps3 or slowly start to migrate to the 360 or something.
Has this happened to anyone else of you guys, if so, what did you do?

Thanks for your time people, and hope the read wasnt too horrible .
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There we go!
Might aswell add that this was originally a forumpost but i got the advice to put it here.
Hope you enjoy my misery guys haha :D

I couldn't care less about trophies and I don't know why it should be a big deal. I prefer getting the ones that I'm willing to do rather than trying to achieve the complete chart. Your IRL peen will not be affected by a considerable lost of length in your E-peen.

Let's have plain old basic fun.
Oh crap, that sucks. Haven't had that happen to me except for losing my savefile on Skies of Arcadia (32 hours in) because my little cousin just HAD to save her ghost data on the memory card.

Dammit, now I'm sad. :(

Hope they can help you in some way. Maybe unlocking the account or something. Tell us how it goes!
@Kraid
Normally I'd agree, but trophies are clearly this dude's jam. He's not just going for random bronzes, but platinums. He posted his PSN ID in the forums, see:



BiggyP, I feel your pain.
I can completely understand that he enjoys getting those trophies but I don't think it should stop him from continuing to play. You had them that doesn't mean everybody will deny that you as person...
damn BiggyP, that sucks. Me honestly I don't care for trophies but it shows that you do have a very good collection of them. If I were you id send Sony a email about this problem, let them know you have a memory card with the saved files to see if that helps, and ask them to try their best to restore your trophies.

And if they don't then tell them this is not good and you are going to raise blogger hell on destructoid, then they will show up in your front door with Pina Coladas and dancing Hawaiian girls along side your updated PS3 with your trophies :P
Wow really sorry to hear that. Did you use the backup feature or just copy and pasted all your game saves and data?? Would it have made a difference?? Hopefully Sony can help you out and fix the problem for you.
You have a limit of five downloads for things you purchase. If the item was downloaded five times, you've invalidated your license on that software. Read your terms of service agreement. Important information like that DOES exists in those text things people just click through.

Also, when trying to transfer data, here's an ingenuis idea, RTFM. The backup feature is built into the system to prevent clusterfucks like this. I'm not sure what Sony can do for you aside from scratch their head and say "well, it's all in the manual."

It sucks that this had to happen, but judging from the grammar in this blogpost, you're not much of a reader to begin with. I'd change that. Seriously. All of your issues could have been prevented by reading how to do something before just going ahead and doing it.
I was having fun in an achivement war with my girlfriend at one point, but after downloading last year's system update it wiped about 4000 points from her account. That really does suck to have data erased like that, especially when you've put so much effort into it.
@ Kraid he said he's not going to play what he went through to get those trophies AGAIN.

It's like putting together a really hard model, weathering it, inking it, painting it. Then it gets taken away. Your not gonna do that shit again and your gonna be hella pissed :P

I feel for you man, that really sucks.
@Kraid
What Dao2-SKP said.

@Sheppy
You owe the dude an apology.

His problems stem from the fact that Sony didn't give him back the same console, not because he didn't RTFM. He backed up his data properly and even made extra copies of his saves. If he had the same machine, he wouldn't have any trouble. (Perhaps even with the game sharing issue, although that's naughty and not something I'd do.)

Maybe Sony can give him his old system back, if it hasn't already been refurbished and parcelled out to some other gamer. It's worth a shot.

Also, did you miss the line where he pointed out that English isn't his first language, or are you in the habit of picking on the mistakes of non-native speakers?
Daaaaaaaamn, sorry man. :(
@ Sheppy

maybe you should learn to read your fuckign self, he stated he's not good at it because english is not a primary language for him, I'm sure if you tried swedish or whatever they speak you'd epic fail. Second he did back it up and look at what parsley said. It is actually directly Sony's fault, while it's not cool to share what you bought with your friends it still would create a problem in the future.

MS Does it beautifully where ton's of stuff can be added to your XBL account.
@DAO2-SKP ; Elementary my dear watson.
DUDE dont worry all you have to do is synk your trophys with the server. Connect online and go to where it says "trophies" On the game tab of the XMB and you should be able to get all of them back, you should be fine dude. I have my friends account on my ps3 along with all Of his trophies just because I have his account info.
Okay, fair enough. It was wrong for me to jump the jumbled mess above. Get's hard to read and follow after a while.

However, it isn't wrong of me about the Backup function in the XMB. Getting a system repaired with another system does, in fact, suck. However, the backup function can be used and installed on another machine in order to bypass online verification of purchases. In fact, that's how a friend of mine transfered his EVERYTHING onto a Slim using that exact same feature. So yes, it IS something about reading the manual.

It's also something about backing up your information before sending anything with information on it in for repair.

As to the gamesharing, it is fully legal, btw. It's a standard feature on PSN and a main selling point of PSN purchases. Only a select few games disabled the feature. Safeties sake using dictates you leave a couple downloads unused in case something like this happens.

BUT, if the customer wants to bitch, he can continue to bitch. Fact of the matter is Sony's verification system is designed for 5 downloads, period. Hardware reverification is NOT in their system currently and even if Sony could repair the issue, it's not going to be an overnight fix since it would be a drastic change in how PSN purchases are verified. He can, however, pursue it how he wants.

As to losing the trophies, not sure how that was even possible to happen.
BiggyP I feel for ya man i really do. thats sucks bad, im dreading putting in my new 320gb HD in fear of losing all my trophies and saves as well, but like Morbid said im pretty sure u can just resync your trophies...as long as you synced them before you sent it in? if you do this then put in a game u had trophies on and get the easiest trophy off of it and your trophies should come back...i dont know if you have to do this with each game or not but its worth a shot, let me know if it works. Good Luck!
@Sheppy
You cannot transfer everything. It's in the manual. Some save data -- and perhaps your friend was lucky and didn't have any of this type -- is copy-protected and cannot be transferred to another system.

BiggyP did back up everything before he sent his PS3 for repair, and he also went to the extra precaution of making extra copies of his saves. His exact words:
"Before i left my ps3 to service i made a backup of the entire HDD and saved all of my savefiles to a SD-card as ive done so many times before, cause i knew there is no way in hell ill get my ps3 back in the state it is now, those fuckers are probably gonna restore the HDD etc."

BiggyP's followed exactly the same procedure as your friend, but is having trouble because some of his data is copy-protected.

Also, BiggyP hasn't lost any trophies. I see Morbid Demise has made that mistake, and he gets 0/10 for reading comprehension, too. What BiggyP's lost is the ability to use the progress he made in his old save files to get more trophies.
Thanks for support guys but seems like some people misunderstood what i ment :).
I havnt lost all my previous trophies, i just synched em up.
But what i have lost is all the progress on other games i was aiming to platinum, i have this weird fascination of getting thing to 100%, its alittle thing betwen me and my friend.
If i buy a game, i want to get as much time out of it as i can, aslong as it doesnt suck that is :).
Problem is that now when my saves are gone, so is my will to even continue to play certain games to get that glorious platinum.

Take Dead Space for example, wich i played through 3 times to get all the upgrades and the military suit etc to use on the Survivormode, all those stuff are now gone, and i have to do it again.
Rock Band 2(wich i cant even imagine how much time ive put in) has a trophy where you have to collect 100K dollars, i had like 70K and was so close, now thats gone and i have to do it over.

Its the doing over-part that really got to me. If youve ever had a game that the savefile went corrupt on or something, you know what i mean.
It really ruins it, and you dont have the energy to do it all again.
That happened to me, instead i got all my games that i was working on erased.

I can accept that some people doesnt give a shit about trophies, its not like i live for em either, but i think its really fun. Usually me and my friend sits at his or my place and spend quality time gettin em, and now i just feel slapped in the face.
Sure i can get some of em again, but that means i have to spend a redicoulus amount of time doing shit ive already done before, like inFamous running all around town gathering the 400(cant really remember the number} damn meteorite-pieces, when i had like 387. Anyone who has spent time running around for em knows that thats not something you wanna do 2 times :).

And as i said, i want to have games at 100% if i know i can do it, just cause im a neatfreak, and it looks clean and neat :).

Its like the guys in this post say
http://www.destructoid.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13862
"it just ruins your love for the game, and makes you not want to play it for a year"

Thanks again people, and sorry for my english haha :P
Parsleyboots is the king btw :P
ok gotcha lol sorry bout that....i know its kinda cheating...well not really in ur case...but why don't you just download another game save for each game? to atleast half way thru to where u were previously
I already have all my old saves(well the ones that arent locked and cant be copied to SD card), but since they are from another console, they dont work on my current.
They are locked to my previous, if i put em in now, and do what i have to do to get a trophy, i get a message telling my i aint eligable to get that trophy since this isnt the original savefile.

Not exactly in those words maybe, but it isnt doable anyway :)
That's a bunch of donkey ballz!

0_o
@BiggyP
I'll expect my crown in the post! ;)
Seriously, it just bugged me that there were people being rude to you even though they clearly hadn't read and understood your post properly. I can forgive their ignorance and stupidity, but there's no excuse for rudeness. And this is a week when the theme is improving gaming communities! Common courtesy folks, that's all it takes.
Oh kay, well that sucks dude. Well I'm sorry to hear that. I understand what you mean tho.
I just had my PS3 die after a year, it got the yellow LED while playing the MAG beta. So I don't have the option to backup my shit. I'm mega-pissed, all of those saves gone. 360's HD's are overpriced as fuck, but at least you can put it on any 360 and it'll work, Sony's method of forced formatting is some bullshit. Anyway, sorry for your loss and good luck.
This is confusing as fuck. But I just read your long comment and yeah some people didn't understand it either. I was about to say that trophies aren't stored on your PS3. They're on Sony's servers. It sucks that you can't transfer some save-files indeed. Although I would loose my mind I would also be cool with it and replay all my games again. The games are awesome otherwise you shouldn't have bought it in the first place and if you don't like the game you're not gonna replay it. I personally completed Burnout: Paradise 3 times now. I would do it a 4th time if I had to. Same goes for my other games. So yeah although it sucks it's kinda cool in a way too.

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