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F*CK YOU SETH
BahamutZero | 12:37 PM on 02.19.2009 65 comments




SF4 Development meeting - 12/15/08

"OK everybody let's discuss this. We're almost done here with this amazing game, let's just iron out some details for our final boss. am I clear on these points?"

★you guys remember that game soulcaliber, right? awesome fucking game, I saw my son playing it the other day. let's make the boss inferno. only, not.
★hey I also saw this show "dragonball" the other day, you guys see that? it's KICKASS!!!!1!!!! I want our boss to look like this guy frieza. but taller, and give him abel's face. that'll confuse people.
★As long as we're stuck in the 90s, let's make his battle stage Hank Scorpio's lair from The Simpsons and populate it with those guys from the wacky Intel ads from the superbowl 10 years ago. God I'm fresh.
★His normal attacks do 150-200% more damage than any character, right? sounds AWESOME!!!!
★He can interrupt other characters "unblockable" attacks with a grab
★I'm tired of all these "cool sounding" bad guy boss names. I want something approachable, that will really humiliate talented players by having their ass handed to them by the name of a guy they use to beat up in high school. Seth, any comment? ok we'll go with "seth".
★I don't want anyone interrupting his awesome grabs. Let's make them unblockable.
★he will build up special gauge 2x faster than normal, because he's awesome.
★I bet if we made him teleport I'd feel like I had a larger penis
★I love this whole "dragon punch" thingie. Doug, it's sweet. But I want it to have the range of a fireball, do 10x the damage and be able to hit from the front and from the air.
★finally, I want to make sure some characters don't have any moves to significantly damage him in any meaningful way. After all, we need quarters. We'll leave that function in the home console version and later charge people dlc to beat him
★sounds good, let's ship this motherfucker!



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MrSadistic's Destructoid Blog
I like the fact that you used stars.
SephirothX's Destructoid Blog
Yeah. Seth really needs to be patched or something, he's really just too broken.
A New Challenger's Destructoid Blog
"Free, gay tangerines" made me lol.
BahamutZero's Destructoid Blog
I haven't hated any one character so much since Rugal Fucking B. And at least I fucking respected Rugal Fucking B. also, for reference, Frieza:

Seth:

Jordan Devore's Destructoid Blog
What is it with allowing fighting game bosses to teleport? I'm not getting SF until tomorrow, but I can already tell this fight is going to drive me crazy.
michiyoyoshiku's Destructoid Blog
Seth is named after Seth Killin
BahamutZero's Destructoid Blog
you have no fucking clue grim
Usedtabe's Destructoid Blog
I wholeheartedly agree. I got lucky my first run through on medium, as Seth was a pushover. That has never happened again. It took me over 25 times to beat him the next time on medium. Fucking medium. This guy is severely broken.
Guagloves's Destructoid Blog
Trying to beat M Bison drove me nuts in SF2. This sounds more annoying.
SephirothX's Destructoid Blog
@Guagloves
Bison's a fucking pushover compared to Seth.

@Usedtabe
Yeah, the same thing happened to me. I ran wild like a hulkamaniac over Seth my first time on Medium... after that I couldnt fucking touch the guy even on EASY mode. So I just said screw it and went to Easiest just to unlock a few people.
BahamutZero's Destructoid Blog
I gave up when he grabbed me out of the middle of a charged spinning bird kick. The one that activates instantly. that had already hit him once for damage. btw I think he's harder on easy than medium sometimes. depends on the character.
Ha-Puken's Destructoid Blog
Seth can suck a bag of dicks! That guy owes me a new dualshock 2. I haven't had a boss fight piss me off to the point of breaking stuff since Justice from Guilty Gear.
Usedtabe's Destructoid Blog
I had a real hearty lol one time when I went into Ken's Ultra Combo , just out of Seths reach but close enough to hit him, and the fucker grabs me and piledrives my ass, teleports behind me, and piledrives me again. At that point I was so frustrated all I could do was laugh.

And for a heads up, I've been reading online that if you want to beat him on the hardest mode setting, set the rounds to "1" and the timer to "30" seconds. Then pick Zangief and spam his spinning lariat. Apparently this works, haven't tried it yet.
Dimly's Destructoid Blog
Lol. Good.
Jonathan Ross's Destructoid Blog
At least God Rugal in Millionaire Fighting you could kill by spamming Blanka's roll attack.

I tried that on Seth.

It went poorly.
MissHinasaki's Destructoid Blog
I just watched someone struggle against him on the easiest setting. This is someone I cannot beat if my life depended on it. We both feel deeply humiliated.
Gantz's Destructoid Blog
Ah, I can't wait to see you bitch about NANCY-MI847J later on in Tekken 6.

"SHE MADE A FUCKING HOLE IN THE FLOOR!?!?!?"
Necros's Destructoid Blog
He looks more like Dr. Manhattan to me than Frieza, but having not played it yet, wow, that sounds fuuuuunnnnnn.
AngelsDontBurn's Destructoid Blog
Like I said before. When people start playing with Seth online is the day I lock up my copy of SF IV.
CelicaCrazed's Destructoid Blog
That's what I was thinking Necros. Looks like Jon.

Seth is definitely cheap. I haven't sworn more than I have in the last 2 days in a real long time.
Takeshi's Destructoid Blog
Black stars! Sexy.
Dimly's Destructoid Blog
For people like me who need to see ending credits, this could be a little detail that keeps me from playing.

I'm a freak that needs to always beat single player mode before going onto multiplayer (meat and gravy of SF)
galagabug 's Destructoid Blog
pretend there are no special moves and the only button in the game is roundhouse. he's got some dodgy ai.
covah's Destructoid Blog
Seth is the definition of "Motherfucker"

I remember beating himt he first round like "that wasn't TOOOOOO bad"

then I was raped.
Haxan's Destructoid Blog
So, did anybody else pull of the achievment for beating arcade mode on medium or above without continuing?
Solgrim's Destructoid Blog
Seth is the name of an Egyptian God. I actually think in its simplicity it sounds ominous. Too bad he isn't really ominous.

I have been beating him on easiest to unlock all of the characters. I had the worst time with Chun Li. Then out of nowhere I found a hole in his AI. If you jump back and forth it throws him off and he will go into "Get over here!" mode while you are safe in the air. Then you can heavy kick him. That is the key.

Heavy kicks.

Dhalsim can win the whole match standing in place and heavy punch.

It depends on the character. Jumping alot keeps his really powerful moves from hitting you as much as if you were on the ground.

All I can say is that he better not be in the ranked matches. Fuck that.
Char Aznable's Destructoid Blog
Teleport into piledriver 5 times in a row = cheating cocksucker.
Fury-Genesis's Destructoid Blog
Hehe, I'm not getting the game until tomorrow, but I'm really interested in this now.

One of my most satisfying gaming moments is beating Shin Akuma on expert, so part of me is excited about a completely unfair fight.

Then again, cheap broken bosses are a no no in general from a game design point of view.
CAVE's Destructoid Blog
Seth really takes the fun out of arcade mode. I figured out that when you get knocked down and he teleports 3 times, just grab when you get up to throw him away. Learn to deal with his stupid little patterns. I'm able to win most matches against Seth now without continues.
007's Destructoid Blog
He's actually really easy to defeat. All you have to do is
Kryptinite's Destructoid Blog
Are you guys playing on the hardest setting or some shit? Because I played him on Medium and destroyed his ass. Perfect on one round, ultra combo finish the next.

And I'm an okay Street Fighter player.
Angry Damman's Destructoid Blog
I agree completely, what the hell is up with bright shiny energy bosses in fighting games?
Usedtabe's Destructoid Blog
@Kryptinite: WAs that your first match against him? As some of us have already stated, he was almost a pushover the first time on medium. Only subsequent times did he show his cheapness.
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Destructoid Blog
Dr. Manhattan?
Kyousuke Nanbu's Destructoid Blog
I heard that his chip damage sucks so just wait till he tosses a projectile and jump kick him, rinse repeat.

But bosses like Seth is why I hate fighting games, it would be nice if more companies took a page from Virtua Fighter and just challenged you instead of making the boss a cheap-ass piece of shit.
Tubatic's Destructoid Blog
You know what, yeah, fuck that guy.

I wasn't that interested in playing as Rose anyway . . .
Black Nexus's Destructoid Blog
And I thought I was the only one pissed at seth and his 18 hit uppercut.But at least he doesn't have gills revival powers.

@Haxan
Thanks to Sagat I got that award. Thank you tiger knee.
Kryptinite's Destructoid Blog
@usedtabe
Ah, that might explain it.

@haxan
I did :)
Kraid's Destructoid Blog
I almost defeated him with Ken in normal mode but as soon as I started unlocking characters he went apeshit .... and I was in Easiest.............................. I hate is moves I hate him !!!! SONIKE BUUM!!
Ballistic's Destructoid Blog
Hahaha, I love Bahamut's blogs.
Danmartigan's Destructoid Blog
Galagabug is right. Sounds like Seth has some wacky AI going on. I've only fought him a couple times so far on medium, but he seems to be really vulnerable to crouching hard kicks. Also, jump the hell away from his supers.
balth's Destructoid Blog
DO NOT MENTION RUGAL, WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM ANY MORE IDEAS ABOUT *GOOD* BOSS CHARACTERS. I mean, look what they did to Dan.
Pangloss's Destructoid Blog
I can't think of the last time I played a fighting game and the boss wasn't completely fucking broken. But this sounds like a particularly egregious offense. There is nothing worse than a boss that you can't beat with skill alone: he has to let you win.
TheToiletDuck's Destructoid Blog
Was getting my ass whipped as Vega until i realised he always falls for the jump punch, one two punch combo. Like everytime. No fancy supers, nothing. Just cheap him to death. Mother Fucker.

Still not as bad as Gill from SF3rd strike
Trevor McGee's Destructoid Blog
First round, he's pretty much a push over most of the time, but the second round is where all bets are off and he becomes a monster.

The guy can teleport instantaneously and repeatedly in only a second. He has a throw that can be pulled off without a delay and can catch you in pretty much any situation (i.e. jumping, crouching, blocking, in the middle of moves, before completely recovering from falling, etc.) and he spams it repeatedly. He has a suction move, both normal and as an Ultra Combo, that can cancel almost anything you're doing and the only way to avoid it is to be lucky and be in the middle of a high jump when he's trying it. The CPU can predict your jump attempts and counter with an uppercut.

He's just a pain in the ass.
Detry's Destructoid Blog
I perfected him with El Fuerte. :P

But it was on easy.

On medium difficulty I can perfect him in the first round, but then it gets a bit rough.
onomelon's Destructoid Blog
I got to Seth the other night as Crimson Viper. Took me a good 45 minutes to beat the fucker.

He may not be the cheapest boss ever (I can think of several...Devil Jin, Gill, Dark Khan), but Seth comes pretty fucking close.

At least he has no Resurrection move...
-PL-'s Destructoid Blog
Yeah, I hurt my finger last night whist violently ripping the power cable out of my PS3. Thanks Seth.
funran's Destructoid Blog
FUCK SETH
BurnPianoBurn's Destructoid Blog
you want to be a real douche bag, play as Seth in Ranked Battles with people who lag and just do his pull towards you move and dragon punch over and over.

I'm glad they gave him the yin yang too, makes him so MYSTERIOUS and gives him the image that he shops at Spencer Gifts in the Blacklight Poster display.


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