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Opinion: Are video games art?
Arch649 | 3:13 PM on 04.09.2009 6 comments


Well I've finally made a Destructoid account. For my first couple of blogs I just though I'd get my opinions out of the way. We all know this argument and I usually don't like to talk about this one. But I figured I should get it out of the way in case if anyone's curious.

Basically, video games are no more art as movies or music is art. What I don't like about this question is the fact that the word "art" doesn't mean anything. When someone says "it was a work of art". What does that mean? did he just like it? Does he think it's pretty? Does he actually have a trained artistic eye? What does he see as art? I think if he said "It has great artistic merits." or better, "It has an artistically creative style." I know these are still fairly ambiguous, but if it's worded this way. We can assume that there was some inspiration or technique involved. Saying video games, in general, are art is like saying all music, including pop music, is art. Would you consider Hanna Montana art?

There are plenty of video games that are artistically creative and have legitimate artistic merit. But I wouldn't consider Rainbow Six art (I still love it though), just like I wouldn't say most Summer blockbusters or, as mentioned above, pop music are art, but are still good. And it can go the other way around. There are plenty of those pretentious, self-indulgent "art-house" games/movies/etc. that are considered art, but just because it's art doesn't mean it's good.

Well I think I've gone into this enough, I'll post something more interesting next time. Till then, have fun.



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SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:44
SephirothX
Art (definition by Wikipedia):
Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music and literature.

By that definition, yes, I feel that games can be art.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:38
Kyousuke Nanbu
I think the the general public(non gamers) need to open their minds a bit before games are considered art, as it stands most people find games to be kid's toys.
Arch649's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:41
Arch649
But by that definition, anything can be art. That's why the word has no value. Because it means everything and nothing.
zanthox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:48
zanthox
I don't agree that "everything" is art, but not liking something does not change how arty something is. Hannah Montana's music might be very repulsive to actual human beings (like us) but that does not change the symmetry, creativity, and/or even mathematics it can take to construct a song. It might have a pretty crappy and pathetic result, but failing doesn't mean it looses is definition. does it?
Art is pretty interesting to me. The definition of it I mean. As brought up how do you define it? I'm not a relativist but I can't help but thing that this is one thing that is incredibly different from person to person...
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 21:28
DF
But not all paintings, sculptures, etc are art. So not all games, music, anything--is art. I mean, the term is relative depending on whom you ask, but I'm sure everyone can come up with a number of games or scenes in them where "art" is the first thing they can say. And then we can debate to the death and get nowhere, but maybe in about...oh, 400-some years, there will be a pixel art wing in the Louvre. >P

That'd be pretty amazing, honestly. But yeah. I don't particularly consider Warhol's work as very artistic, but it even has its own genre, so I can't say much. I very much agree with Nanbu here, in that everyone else doesn't see games as a good medium to call art, and in due time, we just may see it be accepted.

I want to ask Roger Ebert what movies in his opinion in the past 50 years are art in his eyes. I will be genuinely shocked if any came from the past 20-30 years. =P
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