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My sort-of Super Smash Bros Brawl review
Anthony Burch | 2:31 PM on 03.10.2008 36 comments




In reading the comments to Aaron's great Brawl review, I was more than a little flattered/confused to hear so many people wondering how I personally felt about the game.

In short: I like it. A lot. Except for the fucking online.

I haven't gotten a single random online match to work, and thanks to Nintendo's stupid fucking antiquated friend code system I haven't been able to play with anyone else I know since nobody has my friend code (which is: 4639-8642-8814).

It's outright inexcusable to have such a shitty online mode with no leaderboards or voicechat in the goddamn fourth system generation, and if Brawl wasn't so good otherwise I'd be tempted to take off three or more points from a hypothetical numerical score just for that. I want to try out the online mode, so if you feel like kicking my ass just post your friend code and we'll see what we can do.

Otherwise, though, the game is fucking incredible. We're currently at the point where no one has found any irritating exploits which somehow become translated into "skills"; (L-cancelling and wavedashing were not intended by the creators, and were removed for Brawl -- what more evidence do you need that they aren't "skills" that should be used, a la snaking?). For once, I'm on a level playing field with my other Smash-loving friends; I can play as Snake and have just as good a chance of beating Falco since he can't do his little short-hop laser thing anymore. I'm intensely worried that we'll find some Brawl equivalents to L-cancelling and wavedashing which will stupidly be accepted by the Smash community as perfectly legal, but, for now, I'm really enjoying myself. For all my anti-Smashfag ranting, though, I turned off Final Smash Balls and Assist Trophies almost immediately after seeing them all.

I love the new characters, pretty much. I can't imagine why the designers thought it'd be a great idea to include yet ANOTHER fucking Star Fox clone while leaving out Mega Man, but I'm having so much fun with Snake that it's hard to be irritated for too long. Not for a month or so, anyway.

As you'll hear in my upcoming RFGO rant, I hate the actual gameplay of the Subspace Emissary but still love its inclusion and would never deduct points from my hypothetical numerical score because of it: the badass CG cut scenes are a more than worthy excuse for the Emissary's existence, and you don't HAVE to play it to unlock all the characters, so why knock off points just because the last two hours are repetitive and awful?

So, yeah -- in conclusion, I mostly like the new stuff, I like what the Subspace Emissary has to offer, and I fucking hate the online. I'd probably give it a 9, or an 8.5 or something. Editor's choice, either way



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The Bez's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:34
The Bez
Great thoughts rev heres my FC 3308-4245-3311
Spitfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:35
Spitfire
The online has given me problems also, I can "spectate" a match quickly, but forming a random brawl match hasnt worked yet for me.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:37
BluDesign
Press "Enter"

:D
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:38
Bob Muir
I have actually got a few online matches to work. Unfortunately, they both had lag, the first one as bad as a whole half a second. The second one I played on Final Destination was better, but still not perfect. I'd be fine with a lower frame rate if it meant this lag disappeared.

Also, feel free to add me if you want to test it out: 2277-6293-0947

There's also a forum thread if you feel like tossing your number into the wilderness.
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:39
Anthony Burch
I dunno how you guys live with the cblog admin stuff. The formatting is total balls.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:41
DeusPayne
Gogo friends who live nearby. We've just been brawling together, and then going home to do the non-multiplayer. Boo random matches anyways if there's no leaderboards.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:41
Bob Muir
Trial and error in BBCode. It's the only way.

That, and embedding our HTML formatting in the Embed Youtubes option.
Soulhammer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:42
Soulhammer
I don't own a Wii or know anyone who has one, but honestly, I am glad this game is finally out. Now all the pre game hype can stop dominating all the gaming news and people can concentrate on dominating all their blogs with posts about it... wait is that any better?

I still have the original N64 version, which is still the best.
The Bez's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 14:50
The Bez
when you add a friend and it says awaiting registration how do you finish registration?
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 15:17
Aaron Mxy Yost
Name: Mxy
Code: 2750-0776-6751

I played a few matches last night, only noticed lag once.
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 15:24
007
Only bitches use jigglypuff
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 15:25
BluDesign
@ant

I write everything in Notepad with Word wrap turned off. It's the only thing I trust to format it properly after I hit "Make Live!"
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 15:41
kawitchate
thank you for the mini-REView Rev.
ShawnKelfonne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 15:41
ShawnKelfonne
I had a decent amount of lag last night, but I was connecting clear across the country, so I suppose that's expected for the time being. Hopefully it'll improve over time.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 15:54
Kif
Rev: You should talk to Niero about getting us what you use on the front page then. Go on you know you want to. And if you could imagine myself as a little devil above your shoulder while you read that, that would be awesome.
JTHomeslice's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 16:00
JTHomeslice
My code is 3437-2725-7416. I'll add you later.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 16:14
Knivy
I'm listening to you on RFGO right now.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 16:23
Sharpless
Seriously. I hate the limited c-blog options we have. It's better than it was, but it's still seriously lacking. I'd be happy if they enabled blockquoting, without having to embed it. I don't know why we can't have the front page configuration.

Good review, by the way. I like you better than Uncle Aaron. (j/k, love you, Linde.)
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 17:32
Eschatos
I still haven't gotten to the online play, right now I'm in the final maze type which has just gotten annoying because I have to backtrack to fight new characters.
pkhilson's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 17:36
pkhilson
0387-8474-2533 for mine, name "PKHIL"
When I play later tonight, I'll out your code in my friend's list.
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 18:07
topgeargorilla
add me:

0559-6428-1240

I added Necros and Mxy too, so you bitches better put me in.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 18:52
Kyousuke Nanbu
Holy crap rev liked something.

And you have my eternal respect for your comment on snakers, wave dashing and other shit, Mario Kart DS is pretty much ruined thanks to snakers and I hope we don't see in the future Mario Kart.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 19:17
AngelsDontBurn
I haven't had a problem with online yet. First game I played was HORRIBLY laggy. But then I found it was because the friend I was playing with had torrents going. Lol. Other than that it's been great, but I HAVE been playing with friends, I haven't tried the whole play with anyone thing yet. But yeah, I like the game, I like it ALOT. Alot more than I thought I would actually.
's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 19:20
Clint
I have the same problem you have with the online. I get all set up in With Anyone, select my character, and stage and then get an error message and get booted off the wifi.

My friend code: 1590-4361-6937
Hope to play you sometime!
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 19:31
Gen Eric Gui
People keep complaining about Wolf being "just another Star Fox clone" but he's wildly different from either Fox or Falco, who are in and of themselves quite different form each other now. In fact, I HATE Fox and Falco, but find Wolf to be thoroughly enjoyable to play as. Try him, you might like him.

I tried to go online last night but the lag was TERRIBLES. Both matches were decided by who fell off first, because the lag was so bad by the time you realized you were falling it was too late to attempt to recover, even as Pit. Hopefully it will clear up as we get less and less people all trying to log in simultaneously because HEY LETS TRY THIS NEW THING

I have no problem with snaking, L-Cancelling, or Wave Dashing. Either learn to do it and play on their level, or find others who can't do it and play at theirs. You're essentially complaining that they put more time into learning how to play the game better than you did.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 20:20
Kyousuke Nanbu
I'm complaining because they are cheating and there's not a damn thing you can say to convince me otherwise.

Just because you have to make an effort to cheat, doesn't make it any less assholish.
UMF Skibum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 21:01
UMF Skibum
I have also yet to have a random match work online. However, playing with friends has been pretty lag-free and awesome, especially using Vent or Skype as surrogate voice chat.

Anyway, my friend code is 5455-9072-2390. I'd love to play you (and any of the other folks who've posted) sometime. Feel free to add the digits and I'll do the same.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 22:04
Gen Eric Gui
@Kyosuke: It's no different than doing 100% health custom combos in Street Fighter Alpha, pulling off Yun's 95% Genei-Jin or Makoto's 90% super combo, or any number of +65% combos in Tekken. It's advanced tactics.

If those people are "cheating", then anyone who is not simply mashing the buttons blindfolded is cheating. You can't just separate some advanced tactics as cheating and others as not, it's all or nothing.

Of course, I'm not talking about the stuff that breaks the game, like those bugs in MvC2 that remove players from the screen or lock up the machine.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 22:09
Dynamic Sheep
This game deserves an 11/10... it has sound, and lots of it.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 23:20
Dynamic Sheep
My friend code is: 1976-9851-3934

The link has about 50 other people's friend codes.
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2008 23:35
Anthony Burch
I just tried to play two games with both Ben and Bez using friend codes, and nothing fucking worked. Not only was I laggy, but there were items and smash balls and nonsensical stages when I was the one who fucking created the room and none of the specifications I made actually took hold. What the fuck is going on? Am I missing something?
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2008 01:14
Kyousuke Nanbu
@Gen

I'm talking exploits that people abuse that where never meant to be in the game.

Wave dashing, L-Cancelling and Snaking where not meant to be exploited in that manner, otherwise they would have been recognized by the devs and put into Brawl, that's not advanced tactics to me, its flat out cheating.

And a fighting is a poor choice for advanced tactics, EVERY single fighting has a move or something you can exploit and in those games its been there since they started out and they are acknowledged by the devs so those are advanced tactics.
szhlibrary's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 13:27
szhlibrary
Late, but @Rev: I believe that the rules/stage/item settings in online is seperate from the one you have in offline. i.e. you have to change the settings while your friends are waiting.

and @Kyousuke Nanbu: I don't agree. Yes, wavedashing and snaking where not meant to be exploited in that manner. L-cancelling is intentional though, it was a carryover from the SSB64 days, except that it just halved the landing time instead of eliminating it completely (like in SSB64). Also, why is it cheating? It's not unfair like one player has access to it and another doesn't, it's basically one player choosing to do it while the other doesn't. You have a choice, if you don't like wavedashing because you think it's cheap, find people who think it's cheap too and play together.

Just because the devs didn't intend the game to be played like this doesn't mean you can't. You are the ones playing, not the devs, and you can play it however you freaking one - why are there people like this who complain? There's no need to accuse people who play primarily to win of cheating. These players play for money, you don't, so obviously there would be different opinions on how to play.
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