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The Trouble with Fire Pokémon
Animated Trigger | 2:21 PM on 02.06.2008 18 comments




(NOTE: This only applies to Red/Blue/Green. I have not played the future games, so you'll have to educate me on how things are in them, as I am an idiot.)

I do not like Fire Pokémon. I never really have one on my team, and I've figured out specifically WHY.

And it's not just because picking Charmander at the beginning of the game makes the game itself slightly tougher, no. That's a pointless argument, because I ALWAYS pick Squirtle. ALWAYS.

The problem with Fire-type Pokémon is this:

While they do have a slightly higher attack stat than most other Pokémon it seems, there's just not a large number of Fire-types, at least in Red and Blue/Green. There may be more of them in the later games, but I know next to nothing about them and therefore am not an expert with those.
But seriously, in Fire Red, if you do not pick Charmander, like I didn't, and you want a Fire-type Pokémon, there's not a lot to choose from. There's Growlithe, Ponyta, and Moltres. And Flareon, should you choose to give your Eevee the Fire Stone (I didn't). That's four, count'em, FOUR Pokémon to choose from, not including the evolutions of Growlithe and Ponyta, since Arcanine requires a Fire Stone and I can't remember whether or not you can actually catch a Rapidash. If you have Blue/Leaf Green, Growlithe/Arcanine is replaced by Vulpix/Ninetales, and you have one extra choice, the immensely goofy-looking (but admittedly loveable) Magmar. So, including Charmander and everyone's evolutions, that gives you a whopping...ELEVEN fire-types. Eleven out of one hundred and fifty Pokémon. Laym.

Compare that the much larger number of Water and Grass-type Pokémon. No, I'm not going to count those, you can do that yourselves. Our firey friends are quite outnumbered.

And even if you do have one or two Fire-types on your team, that doesn't necessarily put you at a huge advantage...unless you have Moltres, but having ANY Legendary bird will put you at a nice advantage, and the same goes for Charizard if you did pick Charmander in the beginning.
Fire is only Super Effective against three other types: Bug, Grass, and Ice. Now granted, no single element dominates over all other elements, but of the three that Fire can destroy, it's kind of screwed.

For one thing, with only a few exceptions, none of the higher-level trainers actually use Bug-type Pokémon. They're like a novelty for kids. Once you pass about halfway through the game, the number of Bug Catchers just drops significantly you hardly trouble yourself with insects ever again, aside from the few exceptions. And, you know, while fighting a Weedle or Caterpie is like bullying a small child, fighting Kakuna and Metapod is like fighting a paraplegic with downs syndrome, there's nothing to brag about there, and I don't care what level it's at.

Now there ARE a lot of Grass-type Pokémon, but they are by no means helpless. Most of them, in fact, are dual-type, the majority of those paired up with Poison. And any seasoned trainer can tell you how quickly the Poison status ailment can seriously fuck you up. You also run across some Grass/Ground-types, like Venusaur. And hey look, Ground attacks are Super Effective against Fire! Unless, once again, you're using Moltres. And while I mentioned Poison, let us not forget the other status ailments that any good Grass-type loves to hit you with: Sleep and Paralysis! You're screwed if your Fire-type is slower than it's opponent, I'm afraid.

But wait, I hear some of you cry, what about the status ailment Burn? Well, we've already established that there aren't very many Fire-type Pokémon, so you're not at great risk. Honestly, I can count on one hand the number of times one of my Pokémon has burned, or been burned by, an enemy. I played a LOT of Pokémon as a kid, so out of possibly thousands of battles, a few occurances of a burn is pretty meek.

And Ice-types, well, there's a PRETTY GOOD chance that they also know at least one Water attack. And we all know what happens when water and fire meet, right kids? Exactly.

So there you have it: Fire-type Pokémon pretty much suck. Feel free to educate me if things are drastically different in the future titles, as I once owned Silver, but don't remember a single thing about it, and never really bothered after that...

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VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 14:47
VWGTI
lol @ epic Pokeman blog
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 14:55
Snaileb
What VWGTI said. Wow.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 14:59
king3vbo
Holy crap, thats some long ass poke'blog

I personally like Fire-types and always keep one
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 14:59
SWE3tMadness
Yay! Another pokčfan on Destructoid! I don't play the games nearly as much as I used to, but I still appreciate many of the points you make here. :3

I never used Fire types myself, I always pick water starters, usually in addition to Steel, Flying/Dragon, and Electric types, with maybe a good Psychic sweeper thrown in for good measure. There are very few good Fire pokčmon in the games to begin with, and then that select group doesn't have movesets, defensive stats, or HP that are outstanding enough to make me want to give them a roster in my party.

And Burn status sucks. Poison is much more effective, and there are so many more powerful Poison-status-inflicting attacks available than Burn-inflicting ones.
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 14:59
CaffeinePowered
fire types ftw
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 15:00
mix
I was going to say I can NEVER leave my fire pokemon near the shagged carpet as those things burn up mighty fast! My heating bills have gone down though, win/lose situation really.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 15:16
Dan CiTi
Meh go play FireRed or Diamond. But yeah, there aren't a lot of Fire types.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 15:23
vexed alex
Dude...you just beat me in the epic Pokemans blog contest....

I picked the fire guy in Diamond because he was cooler/cuter then the rest. Also, Squirtle is better than teh mudkips.

I myself like the waters more, but I always keep a fire type because it's ability to take down a pretty decent amount of types. Steel, bug, plant, and ice. I'm not sure if there's anymore, but I think that's a pretty substantial amount.

Also, they work pretty good against any other type as long as it isn't weak against it. Take in to account that they may also have separate types like flying or fighting (just like your plant types have poison). They really are useful and balanced, I believe.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 15:36
Dan CiTi
Squirtle is the best character in Brawl.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 15:43
VWGTI
So many Squirtle fans! I feel so happy.
wesman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 15:48
wesman
haha, poke blog
you make a good point, I've never wondered why I didn't like fire pokemon. I'm more of a bulbasaur man, myself.
Rucksack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 16:14
Rucksack
Back in the day I was a the fire-pokemon champ!

Now I'm what? I'm a nobody...washed up I tell 'ya.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 17:12
Justice
Cool blog dude
I like fire and water types mostly
Cubilone's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 17:39
Cubilone
In the newer games Fire also has an advantage over Steel types. But yeah, your point is pretty much taken! Not to mention that most teams have some kind of Fire counter, and if it's not Water, it's Ground. Or BOTH!

But Poison types can fuck you up? SERIOUSLY NOW.

You should check out one of the newer games, they're OK. But the best will always be Pokemon Silver.
Spartacus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 17:48
Spartacus
Diamond really pissed me off because I picked the water type starter, as I usually do, and it turns out the only catchable fire-type Pokemon in the game is Ponyta. I'm not using a freaking Ponyta! At the same time, though, a lot of the Elite Four is weak to fire.
Animated Trigger's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 18:54
Animated Trigger
@Cubilone: I have lost many a battle and many a good Pokémon to Poison. Either from running out of antidotes or just being too dumb to buy them to begin with. The TM that Koga gives you, Toxic if I recall, will seriously mess things up if you don't deal with it fast. So yeah, in my experience, it fucks you up quite a bit.
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