I can't help but feel that the multiplayer facilities on this game are the NEW that Nintendo are trying to sell in this version, and while, admittedly, they've taken arguably the best bit in NSMB-DS and made a whole game of it, its hardly new.
Out of interest, do you know if, when playing multiplayer, one players can die without all of the others dying simultaneously, that is to say, is there a versus mode? (really should've said that from the start)
Out of interest, do you know if, when playing multiplayer, one players can die without all of the others dying simultaneously, that is to say, is there a versus mode? (really should've said that from the start)
Agreed about the title. I think they should have called it Super Mario Bros Wii and just have been done with it. Thing is, for a lot of people, New Super Mario Bros DS was their first, and all time favorite, Mario game. I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.
As for your opinions on the game, I'm a bit confused. One second you're saying the game borrows too much from past 2D Mario games, then you're saying that it doesn't borrow enough from them. Either way, I think you're better off not thinking about past Mario games at all when you play NSMB Wii. Getting caught up in comparisons like that will only work to take you out of the game.
As for your opinions on the game, I'm a bit confused. One second you're saying the game borrows too much from past 2D Mario games, then you're saying that it doesn't borrow enough from them. Either way, I think you're better off not thinking about past Mario games at all when you play NSMB Wii. Getting caught up in comparisons like that will only work to take you out of the game.
@Jonathan Holmes
I guess what I'm saying is NSMBW borrows from the old games in a very egregious way: it is largely components of past games, but none of those components are as good as they were in their original form. It's hard for me not to compare them because there are so many similarities.
I don't mind references to old games and I don't expect them to discard the Mario universe they've built, but there seems to be little done to expand it. Obviously the new big mechanic is being able to play simultaneously with others, but the lack of real, new content is glaring me as a solo player in the face.
Again, though, I haven't played past world 4 or played much multiplayer yet.
I guess what I'm saying is NSMBW borrows from the old games in a very egregious way: it is largely components of past games, but none of those components are as good as they were in their original form. It's hard for me not to compare them because there are so many similarities.
I don't mind references to old games and I don't expect them to discard the Mario universe they've built, but there seems to be little done to expand it. Obviously the new big mechanic is being able to play simultaneously with others, but the lack of real, new content is glaring me as a solo player in the face.
Again, though, I haven't played past world 4 or played much multiplayer yet.
This is the game I am most anticipating playing over holiday break, and you have made me slightly sad.
But, at least when considering New Super Mario Bros. DS, I completely agree. I want a new 2D Mario that builds its own identity and doesn't just wrap itself up in the leathery skins of its ancestors and guffaw at how clever it's being.
So far we've yet to get something like that, but I'm still looking forward to getting my hands on this game and fully enjoying it.
And for the record, Super Mario World's seamless world map will always serve as the high mark. I have no idea why it's never been emulated.
But, at least when considering New Super Mario Bros. DS, I completely agree. I want a new 2D Mario that builds its own identity and doesn't just wrap itself up in the leathery skins of its ancestors and guffaw at how clever it's being.
So far we've yet to get something like that, but I'm still looking forward to getting my hands on this game and fully enjoying it.
And for the record, Super Mario World's seamless world map will always serve as the high mark. I have no idea why it's never been emulated.
I think the game is supposed to be as much of a mash-up of old Mario games as possible. I've been playing this game non-stop and I've loved every single second of it, single- and multi-player. It's nostalgia like I've never seen it before, and yet it still manages to stay fresh since we haven't gotten anything like this in so long.
>> "This is the game I am most anticipating playing over holiday break, and you have made me slightly sad. "
I'm sorry.
Let the record state that I have just finished playing Worlds 4, 5, and 8, and I think the game gets significantly better. There are new enemies, some old ones have some new tricks, and I think overall there are some memorable levels.
Multiplayer really is a blast though. It's fun to do well, but hard because you're constantly running into each other, and somebody might like to be an asshole and throw everyone else around. It sort of has the feel of Little Big Planet like that.
For what it's worth, the core gameplay here is very good. My major criticisms have more to do with the presentation of the game than the actual controls. In fact, there's an excellent Mario engine at work here, and I think it'd be nice if Nintendo would release map-packs of recreated levels from the older games.
The graphics aren't so bad that there's not nice touches. I particularly like the death animations of lots of enemies. The overworld maps have their charm at times, though I still think they're a bit gimped. And okay, the music isn't 100% awful, but I do find it somewhat painful at times.
I'd really feel bad if I ruined your anticipation for the game. As long as you have a friend to play it with, I'm sure you'll find it quite a lot of fun. It really seems to have been designed with that in mind.
I'm sorry.
Let the record state that I have just finished playing Worlds 4, 5, and 8, and I think the game gets significantly better. There are new enemies, some old ones have some new tricks, and I think overall there are some memorable levels.
Multiplayer really is a blast though. It's fun to do well, but hard because you're constantly running into each other, and somebody might like to be an asshole and throw everyone else around. It sort of has the feel of Little Big Planet like that.
For what it's worth, the core gameplay here is very good. My major criticisms have more to do with the presentation of the game than the actual controls. In fact, there's an excellent Mario engine at work here, and I think it'd be nice if Nintendo would release map-packs of recreated levels from the older games.
The graphics aren't so bad that there's not nice touches. I particularly like the death animations of lots of enemies. The overworld maps have their charm at times, though I still think they're a bit gimped. And okay, the music isn't 100% awful, but I do find it somewhat painful at times.
I'd really feel bad if I ruined your anticipation for the game. As long as you have a friend to play it with, I'm sure you'll find it quite a lot of fun. It really seems to have been designed with that in mind.
To be honest, I'm not looking forward to the game itself as much as I am the plethora of usermade content that will ensue. Hell, we already have a map editor (was on the frontpage I believe) in the works, and they say they have ideas as to where the graphics content is for modification. Insane.
Anyone that complains this game lacks originality has missed the point entirely. Lets not forget that Nintendo already wowed us with a creative and unique Mario experience in Galaxy. Now they are provided a completely different experience that is suppose to feel familiar.
This game looks awesome. I can't wait to feel the fresh retro vibe! I loved SMBGalaxy but to tell you the honest truth. I've been waiting for the retrospective of the series to rear it's head. & yes, here it is. Can't Wait. No more playing roms. At least as often as i did before.
Thanks for the mini review too.
Thanks for the mini review too.
No no, you didn't ruin my anticipation at all. I'd pretty much inferred everything you said about the game, this was just a rainy little confirmation. Super Mario Bros. DS did a good job of preparing me, as far as expectations go (especially with the questionable music).
I already knew the game wasn't everything I wanted it to be, but I'm still incredibly pumped to get into it. Nothing anyone says on the internet can affect my anticipation for this game.
I already knew the game wasn't everything I wanted it to be, but I'm still incredibly pumped to get into it. Nothing anyone says on the internet can affect my anticipation for this game.

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