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Point & Counterpoint 3 - Chrono Trigger
Aerox | 2:47 PM on 01.25.2008 32 comments


This is the third in a series of ‘dueling cblog editorials’ I will be doing with CaffeinePowered.
You can check out his opinion on today’s topic HERE.

Previous editions:
Point & Counterpoint 2: Originals vs. Remakes
Originals
Remakes

Point & Counterpoint 1: Video Game Violence
Violence Doesn’t Affect Gamers
Violence Affects Gamers

As most people who’ve played video games know, the SNES definitively has the greatest library of RPGs of any console in history (and arguably the best library period, but we won’t get into that here). Squaresoft ruled the 16-bit era, but the SNES also saw fantastic RPGs from other developers in Breath of Fire, Lufia, EVO, and the other game being discussed today, Earthbound. While all of the aforementioned are fantastic games in their own right, I’ll be arguing that Chrono Trigger is the greatest RPG available on the SNES.



Today’s Topic: Earthbound vs. Chrono Trigger

In case you couldn’t tell by my avatar or the paragraph above, I think Chrono Trigger is fucking awesome. In this article, I’m going to explain exactly why Chrono Trigger is the best SNES RPG, and why no other game can compare. I don’t know if I’ll be able to fully cover the greatness of this game in a mere blog post, but I’ll try my best.

The Story & The Characters



It’s hard to really put into words just how engaging and deep the story of this game is. I’ll spare everyone a story recap since I’m sure most of you have played this game. If you haven’t, stop reading this now, quit whatever you’re doing, and get a copy. Be warned, if you actually haven’t played the game, some spoilers follow, and to spoil a game this great should be an international human rights violation.

The story behind Chrono Trigger is epic, spanning multiple time periods (obviously) and a number of well-developed villains. From the first few minutes of the game when you’re exploring the fair to one of the many potential final showdowns, the story grabs hold of you and doesn’t let go. I can’t think of a single time in the game when I felt like I just wanted to rush the game along and get to an interesting part; the entire game is engrossing, and everything you do has a purpose. There are no stupid fetch quests for inane items to fill time (OH NO THE BRIDGE TO THE NEXT AREA IS CONVENIENTLY OUT!! PLEASE DEFEAT THE EVIL ELF LORD TO RETRIEVE THE HAMMER OF REPAIRING SO THAT WE CAN REBUILD!); all of your actions and quests serve to move the story forward.

Of course, many games can boast that they have a good story. What I feel really sets CT apart from these other games is the way the characters are intertwined with the story, and the way they develop. Without a doubt, every character in Chrono Trigger is fleshed out and plays a vital role in saving the world. When I played this game for the first time, I remember feeling like it was the first game where every character had a genuine personality. Crono is stoic and stalwart, Marle is giggly and flighty yet deeply devoted to Crono, Magus is an all around badass whose villainous actions in the first half begin to make sense later. Many other games of the time either threw in so many characters that it was impossible to flesh them all out and care about them or threw three or four characters at you, told you almost nothing about them, and then left them unchanged throughout the entire game.

This is already difficult because I have so much more to say on the topic, but in the interest of keeping things short (relatively), I’m going to move on.

The Music



One of the best parts of Chrono Trigger was its phenomenal soundtrack. The regular battle music, the boss battle music, all of the character’s theme songs, Chrono Corridor (Kingdom of Zeal overworld theme), the Undersea palace music, Schala’s theme, ; I truly believe that it’s some of the finest video game music ever created. A pretty hefty portion of my music library is all video game music, and within that I have a ton of Chrono Trigger music, both original and remixed. Almost 13 years after the game came out I can still whistle/hum pretty much every song in the game in its entirety. And it’s not just me who loves Chrono Trigger – over at OC remix there are 86 mixes alone based off of the CT soundtrack. (I believe it’s the most remixed game on the site, but I’m not positive. Maybe Dale can clear that up.) In fact, I’m listening to a bunch of CT music right now so I feel more inspired. I find it difficult to describe music in words, but if you’re not familiar with the soundtrack I strongly suggest you check out youtube and OCRemix to see just what you’re missing out on.

While they’re all great, some of my favorites from OCRemix are:
Back 2 Skala
Chronodyne Marine
Time Circuits High Voltage
Sacratus Bellator
Time Management
Chrono Symphonic – A Whole Album of Glory

These are by no means the only good ones; I suggest you check out as many on the site as possible.

The Innovative Time Travel Mechanic



The time travel mechanic was something new to the genre, and the way Chrono Trigger implemented it was ingenious. Again, there’s so much to talk about on this topic but for the sake of brevity I’m going to mainly focus on one or two reasons why it’s so amazing.

One of the coolest features I think of the time travel is that you were able to directly see how your actions had an effect down the line in the future. Open a box in the Middle Ages? It’s gonna be opened when you jump back to the present time. Help restore a forest in the past, and suddenly the future map you’d been used to for the last 25 hours has been drastically altered. What’s especially cool about this system was that it made side quests a whole lot more interesting. Chrono Trigger had a lot of them, and it was nice to see quests that were nicely tied into the story and not nonsense “Collect 6 gems and stick them in a statue and you get the ultimate weapon!” CT’s sidequests involved slaughtering your mortal enemy (or befriending them?), restoring war torn lands, laying to rest the soul of a long-departed adventurer, and, my personal favorite and what I think is the most emotional moment in the game (especially if you fuck it up the first time you play like I did), healing the crippled. All of CTs sidequests in some way altered the path of the story and the game, and made you actively want to seek them out and complete them all even if you’re not a 100% completion whore (especially compared to things like FFVI’s Coliseum, which I couldn’t give a flying fuck about).

However, the true genius of the time travel lies in what I’m about to discuss next, and is so amazing that it’s getting its own section.

Multiple Endings and New Game+


Prophetic foreshadowing, since both are possible.

As a kid, I remember finishing the game and basking in the glorious afterglow of the final ending scene. A perfect way to end a perfect game. As the credits finished rolling, I noticed something new had appeared. What’s this? New Game +? Investigation on the internet (We were wired at my house from a very early age) revealed that not only could I play the whole game again and not have to go through the hassle of leveling up, but THERE WERE 10+ MORE ENDINGS that I could experience based on when in the storyline I defeated Lavos. As I read that, I probably came as close to orgasm as possible for a pre-pubescent 10 year old boy. THERE WERE 12 COMPLETE ENDINGS. No lame shit like you get a picture with a different caption depending on when you finish the game, you literally get full fledged endings. While some are comedic, they’re still actual endings, and this was absolutely unheard of in 1995. Add that to the fact that for many of the endings, the sidequests you completed altered the endings even more (Lara certainly won’t be walking around in any of them if you let her legs get crushed). The amount of thought, dedication, and continuity that went into planning this whole game and story is just mind-boggling. Again, there’s so much I can say on this topic, but I’ll calm down and leave it at that.

NUS


Nus are amazing. There will be no debate or discussion on this topic. I am right, and if you disagree with me you’re wrong.
“All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu. This is the truth!”

If you don’t like this game, I hate you



While MAYBE a little extreme, it pretty accurately sums up how much I love this game. I sat down and genuinely tried, and I could not think of a single flaw with this game. None. I could go on and on and on and rant about the double/triple tech system or the graphics or the awesome manual or how awesome riding a pterodactyl is or the greatness of Ozzie, Slash, and Flea (OZZIE PANTS FTW) or Spekkio or “But you’re still hungry” or Yakra (DRRRRRRRROOOOOO) or Yakra XIII or Alfador & Baby Magus…THERE IS SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.

Despite what Caffeine says, and despite how good of a game Earthbound is (and it’s really good), the complexity and story depth, soundtrack, and character development of Chrono Trigger (as well as 50 million other things I didn’t get to talk about) easily make it the best SNES RPG of all time. Just listen to these REAL LIFE TESTIMONIALS from some awesome people!:

“Chrono Trigger captured the best of character development and emotional resonance with one of the most effortlessly unforgettable stories in an RPG to date.” – Colette

“It has the best start up ramp to a game ever. Where most games start slow, this game is just sooo fucking full of win at the start. Everything leading up to the trial and the prison breakout and then escaping to the future is just fucking brilliant. God, the trial. That’s just so amazing.” – Wedge

“Without a doubt Chrono Trigger will take you on the most fantastic journey through time and space that you can experience in the Golden Years of the RPG. This is a must-have/must-play game for any RPG enthusiast.” – BigPopa

“Ammmmmaaaazzzzinnnngggg!” – Chad
(Note: Chad didn’t actually get back to me with a quote in time, but I feel like I accurately captured the gist of what he was going to say. ;) )

Also, here’re some comments from the fail parade:
“Best game that I still haven't played because I suck.” – Necros

"I've never played the game." – CTZ

“... My not-rom was broken. The switches, man! The switches!” – Jim “Don’t read Wardrox’s Blog” Sterling

(I originally meant for this all to be people saying how much they loved the game, but the first three people I asked for comments failed me. They have all NOT been sent a rom (that, if it existed, would have working switches) and also have NOT been sent an emulator. Mock them mercilessly until they don’t-play it.)

For those who HAVE played it, I know it’s hard to choose just one, but list your favorite Chrono Trigger moment (just one!) in the comments. I bet we end up with at least 10 different responses, if not more, because Chrono Trigger is so good that every scene in the game has the potential to be favorite moment material.



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Tragic Hero's Destructoid Blog
You win over Caf. Its a close comparison but Chrono Triggers story is more complete where Earthbound is just silly all the way through til the end boss battle (in my opinion at least).
LeonSK's Destructoid Blog
Hell yes my brother. Chrono Trigger is the best game ever. Period. My favorite monent tho? A tie. #1 When the party first discovers the fate of the world in the future and makes a resolution to save it. Music makes that one. The other has to be anything involving the 12,000 BC/Underwater palace era. The game really takes a dark turn and showcases some of the best writing in a game ever. The music in that time period always creeps me.
BigPopaGamer's Destructoid Blog
One of my favorites is when they are in the future and the discover what it was that destroyed the world in 1999. The coming of Lavos(the devil) is a great scene and you can just imagine what it looks like in your mind. Literally, hell on earth.

Second favorite is of course when you heal the crippled. I also love any quests that had to do with helping out Frog, or Glenn.
Scape's Destructoid Blog
I thought that technically there are 15 different endings you can get, including the 2 variations and the game over ending (which still counts as an ending).

The different endings really added to the greatness of the game because it was so unique for the time. Chrono Trigger is definitely a game that everyone needs to play, RPG fan or not.
blehman's Destructoid Blog
This is the greatest game ever released. However, due to the fact I can EAT A SANDWICH while playing Earthbound, that game gets the nod.
007's Destructoid Blog
Chronic Trigz wins. Fo' Sho'.
Gangles's Destructoid Blog
This is like asking me to choose between children...

That being said, I played through Chrono Trigger a half-dozen times or more, and Earthbound only twice. That means something I guess.
epoch's Destructoid Blog
Frog's theme is so awesome! I'd like to add the part where robo's robot brothers turn on him was a great moment, it was so sad.
king3vbo's Destructoid Blog
In my opinion, Chrono Trigger is better than Earthbound... but you have to realise that its my number 1 favorite of all time versus my number 2 favorite of all time. That being said, the main reason I love CT over Earthbound is the emotional sequences that floor you.

The scene in which Chrono dies literally stunned me the first time I played it. I set down the controller and just stared... my favorite character in the game had just died... and now I had to bring him back. I have never been so determined to figure out a part of a game and play it through since then.
Xelotath's Destructoid Blog
Chrono Trigger is my #2 favorite game of all time, #1 is Ocarina of Time. But OOT didn't age well while CT is still like I remember it. That's the first game for me that wasn't just fun,it was epic and it changed my view on games. Before that I never tought I could cry because of a video game, or anything for that matter but Chrono Trigger did it. My favorite moment if I had to chose is the whole game, but to be more specific I'll list a few key scenes: The trial and how the actions you did before that changed the result, The discovery of lavos and the destroyed future, The music, The floating Zeal Kingdom, The forest the R-66Y(Robo for you heretics) builds, And my favorite moment, the fight with Magus in the past and when he joins you. Magus was in fact my internet name until recently.

If the SNES only had one game and it was CT then I would still pay 500$ for the privilege of owning and playing it.

I would also kill for a playable OOT remake, and to play Chrono Trigger:Resurection.
timepants's Destructoid Blog
I have not played Chrono Trigger. The boxed SNES version and the PS1 version are sitting in my house (where I'm typing this from) right now. Maybe I should play it?
Professor Pew's Destructoid Blog
I only played Chrono Trigger so I can't say anything about Earthbound. I just played it last year, and it was pretty good. It's probably better if you played it while growing up with it though, since I can't remember most stuff about it anymore now.
IceMax's Destructoid Blog
I too have not play chrono trigger ever.
Wedge's Destructoid Blog
OMIGAWD. I fucked up saving Lara the first time I played too. That was so sad.

Also my house is full of cats.
DynamicSheep's Destructoid Blog
Favorite moment: Working and working on the game until I had enough kick ass in me to beat the game with Marle and Crono alone and get the "Dream Team" ending... such an epic ending to an amazing game.
Lukich's Destructoid Blog
MUSIC YES! I have chills right now listening to Schala's Theme. There was a time where I would have given my first born to Yasunori Mitsuda (right after purchasing the Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross soundtracks)
naia-the-gamer's Destructoid Blog
You make an excellent argument for Chrono Trigger. Then again, you could have written "poop poop poop" for your argument and I would have agreed with you. Chrono Trigger is also my all time favorite game.

I loved the time travel aspect of the game. It was one of the few games at the time where you could truly see the consequences of your actions.

So this makes me wonder are you one of those Chrono Trigger fans like me who want to forget that Chrono Cross ever existed, or are you a CC fan too?
Vanima's Destructoid Blog
Aha I was going to ask about Chrono Cross as well. My gaming got all out of wack when I was younger and I ended up playing Chrono Cross before I played Chrono Trigger. I actually enjoyed Chrono Cross as a game but I can see that some people wouldn't like it as compared to Chrono Trigger if they had fallen in love with it first.

What do you think Aerox?
Eschatos's Destructoid Blog
Downloading for mah emulator... Woulda played it before, but forgot.
vandamguy's Destructoid Blog
dont know how you guys didn't toss ff6 in the hat for best rpg on the snes, it would have been a lot harder to pick between ff6 and CT
Wedge's Destructoid Blog
@DynamicSheep

You mean you need Marle to win? Pft. Real men can beat the game with just Crono ;O.

@Vanima

Aerox thinks Chrono Cross is an ok game, but sucks as far as being a Chrono Trigger Sequel. I would agree.
Aerox's Destructoid Blog
@Vandam

I agree, but I picked CT as the best and Caf picked Earthbound. FFVI is my second favorite game.
Aerox's Destructoid Blog
@Naia and Vanima

Pretty much what Wedge said. It's not a bad game by any stretch, but as a sequel to Chrono Trigger it fails miserably. Had it been released as a standalone game with no links to Chrono Trigger, I probably would like it a lot more. However, I don't hate it, it's just that looking at it leaves me with a crushing sense of loss and disappointment.
Necros's Destructoid Blog
I'm sorry that I suck so much.
ScottyG's Destructoid Blog
That was something I loved about Chrono Trigger: you could get most, if not all, of the extra endings with just the second play though. Just save before you fight Lavos at a certain point, beat him to get the ending, reload and keep going. ^_^
KamikazeTutor's Destructoid Blog
One of the tiny things I like about this game is that, if on a certain place, an item existed in more than one time, if you collected it from future to past, you could get better or multiple items, rather than getting it in the past and making it disappear from the following times.

I played the hell out of Chrono Trigger. I got all the endings, meticulously planned when to pick up items, etc.

And the battles, oh the battles. Talk about eye candy!
AlucardX24's Destructoid Blog
AH GONZALEZ! I'M SO STRONG! Haha, I love that little anime thing they put out.
Fading Star's Destructoid Blog
:D.

@Aerox and CaffeinePowered

How do you guys feel about Secret of Mana for SNES?
Aerox's Destructoid Blog
@Fading

That may be discussed in the future. Keep an eye out.
hood_954's Destructoid Blog
easily one of the best rpg's of all time. will definitely stay remembered as one of the best rpgs of all time. the most hilarious and most fave part for me was when crono is on trial and an old man testifies against crono because he stole his lunch off the table during teh fair/carnival/festival(w/e) at the start of the game. never before has an rpg put the player on trial for stealing from an npc character. only example ever. classic win.
Liontamer's Destructoid Blog
Thanks for the OCR plug, Aerox; it's much appreciated! CT indeed has the most OC ReMixes with 81 so far. FF7 is right behind that with 79. I'm more of a fan of EarthBound since it's a quirkier soundtrack, but CT is classic. I've never even played it, and the music clearly stands out as one of the most respected soundtracks out there, for good reason!

Larry "Liontamer" Oji
Head Submissions Evaluator, OverClocked ReMix
Creator, VG Frequency
Staff, VGMdb
http://www.ocremix.org
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