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4:42 PM on 01.13.2008

Point & Counterpoint 1 - Video Game Violence does Affect Gamers
Aerox 17 comments


This is the first in a series of experimental ‘dueling cblog editorials’ I will be doing with CaffeinePowered, you can check out his ‘Point’ HERE.

(I left my camera’s memory card up in the Bay Area when I was home for Christmas so I don’t have awesome Phoenix Wright pictures; hopefully I’ll have it when the next installment goes up.)

Video games and violence.



Every time this topic comes up, there’s always a shitstorm of discussion. It seems like almost every person on Dtoid jumps in, and almost everyone seems to have the same opinion:

Video games have no effect on a person’s aggression or violent tendencies.

And I 100% disagree with that opinion. I firmly believe that, on some level, violent video games have an effect on people, from children to adults.

Before everyone jumps in and starts telling me how wrong I am, how they’ve played a video game and haven’t murdered someone, how this opinion is damaging to the video game industry, allow me to explain. It’s not an easy topic to condense into a blog so I can’t cover everything, but let me try to give you a brief overview of why I think video games actually do affect gamers (just not in the way that the media and Jack Thompson claim).

Defining Violence and Aggression

One of the biggest misunderstandings in this debate is exactly what “violence” and “aggression” are. Whenever this topic comes up, people seem to automatically equate any suggestion that video games can make a player more aggressive to a statement that “Playing video games will make you kill people”, and this simply isn’t true. In the context of studies discussing increases in aggression and violence, they do not mean the extremes. Every time a study comes out where aggression is mentioned everyone freaks out and acts like the researcher is blaming gamers for genocide. Aggression can mean a lot of different things. Violence doesn't mean you're shooting people in the head. Additionally, they don’t always mean physical acts. Wanting to punch someone in response to a conflict, even if you don’t actually do it,



When I was younger, my little brother and I would play Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat in the backyard. It was a game, and we had fun beating the crap out of each other. I dragon punched him in the face a number of times. Is that aggression and violence that’s a direct result of video games? Yes. We weren’t aiming to kill/maim the other person, and it was all in fun, but it is still a direct example of increased aggression as the result of a video game. If I didn’t know what Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat were, it’s unlikely that we would have gone out and played like that.



If you understand what “increased aggression” actually means, the research doesn’t seem as far fetched, although people may still disagree. In fact, a large number of things in the media are linked to increased aggression. Playing or viewing “violent” sports (like football, hockey, etc.) is known to increase aggression and violence*, and I don’t think many people would argue with that. If you’re a football player, you’re going to really want to win and you’re probably going to enjoy slamming the opposing quarterback to the ground as you blitz him. That’s a perfect example of increased aggression and violence. Again, like with video games, all football players aren’t homicidal maniacs who want to shoot up schools. Similarly, watching violent movies can increase the propensity of violent or aggressive thoughts. After watching some badass action movie with explosions and backflips and ninjas and all that shit, who hasn’t imagined themselves in the hero’s place afterwards, running around shooting terrorists and blowing shit up?

The “Jack Thompson” Fallacy



But even with that example, I’m not claiming that it’s the exact same for everyone. That’s another problem that happens whenever these studies come out. Everyone inevitably chimes in with “Hey! I play video games and I haven’t killed anyone. Obviously this study is wrong!!” In doing so, you make the same mistake that Jack Thompson does when he points to one instance of a kid supposedly influenced by video games who has gone on to murder someone. Nothing in social sciences can be predicted 100% across an entire population.

These studies don’t claim that every single person who plays video games will become muderers, as Jack loves to say, they in fact claim that the act of playing violent video games may, in a percentage of the population, increase the chance that an individual may have violent thoughts or behaviors. That's something that could be as simple as the kid might be more likely to punch his pillow when he's angry. And of course, the inverse is true as well. Just because you yourself and your friends haven’t gone out and stabbed someone because of a video game, or if you feel that you have been absolutely 100% in no way affected by a video game, doesn’t mean that there are not other people who are.

How the Media Twists the Research

One of the main “problems” with these kinds of studies that link video games and aggression/violence is that the mainstream media picks up on them and twists the meaning and interpretation of the results in order to make a sensationalistic story about how buying your child a video game will cause him to stab you in the face in the middle of the night.



This is certainly an issue; this kind of press is bad for gamers and the industry in general. However, this fact doesn’t make the studies themselves inherently incorrect or invalid. If you read most of them, many of the researchers make great pains to say that they’re not claiming that there aren’t any other extraneous factors involved, or that they’re making the claim that video games turn kids into murderers. The mere fact that the media misinterprets them, or that they go against your personal beliefs doesn’t make them incorrect or invalid.

What These Studies Actually Mean

While I touched earlier on how I increases in aggression and violence can be small minor things, it’s logical to assume that if video games actually did make people more aggressive and violent, more video gamers would be committing crimes. However, it’s important to understand that these types of research studies try to statistically control their variables so that they can look at the effect in the ABSENCE of any other mitigating variables. When a study says that playing video games makes you violent, it’s saying that “not taking into account ANY other factors, such as parental involvement, SES, mental state, etc., video games can make some people more violent.” Most gamers come from stable households and many have parents who took an interest, or at least paid attention to their game playing, and as a result this mitigates the effect that video games have. If your parents are responsible and you have normal social support networks, video games will not grossly affect you in a negative way (although if listening to the chat in Live is any indication, gamers still seem to be pretty verbally aggressive). If your parents don’t monitor what you play and give you no support, chances are you’ll be affected more by video games than most.

How to Fight the Negative Press

The best way to counteract all the negative publicity games get as the result of poor interpretations of research on violence and video games is to become informed yourself. If every time a piece of research comes out and gamers just yell ‘NO THIS IS WRONG’, our credibility doesn’t really go up. It will be FAR more beneficial to the video game industry as a whole for us to acknowledge that there's a link between media and personality traits, and then point to all the other areas like sports where almost identical findings have been made to show that the media is making a far bigger deal out of video games than they should. Use this knowledge to encourage developers, retailers, and parents to take ESRB ratings seriously. 9 year olds should not be playing Manhunt. Stores shouldn't be selling M rated games to 7 year olds 50% of the time. Gamers as a whole don’t look good when a 5 year old is decapitating people in God of War. Instead of pretending that video games are a magical type of media that don’t affect people in any way, acknowledging their power and then pointing to similar media and the various mitigating variables that decrease violence is the best way to educate people on why games aren’t as dangerous as the media claims they are.


(Pretend this is me while my camera is unusable)

While most video game players don’t go on to shoot up schools, I think it’s hard to deny that most gamers, in some way, shape or form, have been affected by video games. Maybe you’re just a little bit more likely to curse someone out for headshotting you in Halo 3, maybe every now and then you think of how cool it would be to fire a rocket to the face of the asshole you have to work with every day, maybe you push your sister when it’s not necessary. Of course, video games aren’t the sole reason you might do these things, but I think there’s a good chance that had you never played video games, you might be just a little less likely to have those reactions/thoughts/actions. Can you honestly look at yourself and say there’s not a single instance of an aggressive thought you’ve had or action you’ve taken that wasn’t influenced in some way by a video game, no matter how small/minor that thought or action may be? What’s important to remember is that the effects on most of us for video games are so minor that they won’t harm us in the long run.

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Jonathan Holmes's Destructoid Blog
HOLY SMOKES!

Nice work, dudes.
Wedge's Destructoid Blog
Seriously though, great idear guys. I would suggest in the future however, all articles be written in the format of a series of the custom Phoenix Wright flash text things.
MrSadistic's Destructoid Blog
I suggest that this argument be done on a court room reality television show such as Judge Judy or The People's Court, or to a lesser extent Divorce Court.
Leviticus's Destructoid Blog
While your idea of increased aggression not being the extreme may be true, you haven't really shown any actual proof that video games are connected to that. It's very possible that people that have these kinds of personalities are simply attracted to these kinds of activities instead of the activities being at fault for said personalities, and you haven't said anything to contradict that.
Spitfire's Destructoid Blog
I know its just nit-picky, but do you have a link to the article associated with it? Im wondering what the horizontal titles mean. Low Hostility and High Hostility. Are these the types of fights the students engage in? Either way it seems that there is an equal increase in the percentages of students in fights between the Low Violent games- Low and High hostility and High Violent games- Low and High hostility. That seems to me its showing that even with low violent games there are angry violent people.
Aerox's Destructoid Blog
I was mainly using it as a visual, but if you're interested here's the link. I haven't gone over the study in depth. In order to try to keep this from becoming too long and a tl;dr (it might be too long already) I didn't want to discuss specific individual studies.

http://culturalpolicy.uchicago.edu/conf2001/papers/walsh.html

Leviticus makes a good point; as far as I know that's not something that has been studied yet. Yet I still find it difficult to believe that the media we watch/engage with (this isn't limited to just video games) has absolutely no effect on our thinking or development.
Quisling's Destructoid Blog
He has more charts and graphs, so for the time being I'm supporting him. However, you are only 4 charts short of tying and 5 short of edging a lead over him, so maybe you'll come out ahead next time.

Also, I'll read them later. And penii.
DynamicSheep's Destructoid Blog
While I do agree that any sort of media can affect your mood, I have to go back to what you said and make a few counter points of my own:

"Before everyone jumps in and starts telling me... this opinion is damaging to the video game industry..."

This opinion is damaging to the video game industry, because it is always equated with the most extreme form of adolescent aggression: school shootings. Like you go on to say "...the media misinterprets [studies done corrolating violence and video games]...", and regardless of whether it's right or wrong, it is, in fact, damaging. In order to make sure that the video game industry flourishes as much as the movie or music industry, we have to make sure that it isn't sanctioned out of existence. Once it is a thriving, safe industry, let the doctors do their research.

"If I didn’t know what Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat were, it’s unlikely that we would have gone out and played like that."

Then you would've gone out and played WWF or Thundercats or GI Joe or X-Men or any other variety of boy targeted media based on aggressive acts. As the saying goes, boys will be boys. Whether it's football, rugby, or Mortal Kombat, kids like to fight when they play. Video games allows them to do it in a safe environment. Beyond that, what were your parents thinking... letting two little boys play Mortal Kombat! That's rated M for Mature!

Now, my final point is: Though media (including video games) may influence one's thoughts to be more aggressive, it's the responsibility of the individual to take into account their thoughts, and reflect on them before acting. If one acts in a malicious way, it's noone's fault but their own. Sure, I've felt the urge to drive wrecklessly after playing "Burnout" or to jack an 18 wheeler after playing "GTA", but I don't... because I alone am responsible for my actions.
liam2015's Destructoid Blog
Bah! I hate to admit it but you're completey right, there definitely IS a connection, despite how miniscule it is.

Great write-up.
BluFire's Destructoid Blog
Great blog. I definitely agree with what you're saying - there's no denying that video games DO affect our behavior, but that there's still a lot of other factors that play into this, including other violent media or the mental state of the person.
Professor Pew's Destructoid Blog
Then again, I play violent games and I'm a psycho terrorist.
king3vbo's Destructoid Blog
Its true, but the affects are so minimal in a NORMAL, WELL ADJUSTED person that you cant tell. Its all blown out of proportion because Video Games are the latest thing for old people to hate on, just like movies and music.
Necros's Destructoid Blog
Well done, I'm looking forward to more of these.
Dan CiTi's Destructoid Blog
Meh since my Xbox has been broken I have become more angry & violent. Seriously. Life has gotten worse.
Samit Sarkar's Destructoid Blog
Hm...I initially read Caffeine Powered’s point and said I agree with him 100%, but I totally see where you’re coming from. DynamicSheep makes a good point, though; my brother and I “wrestled” each other after watching the Hardy Boyz and Stone Cold Steve Austin do it in the WWF. But if you’re just trying to say that video game violence affects gamers, then I agree with you. It’s a huge jump, though, to pull a Jack Thompson and say that playing FPSes will make people shoot up a school (without other factors involved). I’m glad that you acknowledged that, and I look forward to more of these.

Also, I’m eternally grateful that you know the difference between “affect” and “effect” and how to correctly use the two words.
BlackSunEmpire's Destructoid Blog
I may be a bit late to comment on this, but...

If you are going to put in a graph, I think you should at least cite a reference, otherwise it could look like you're making stuff up to support your argument.

Also you don't seem to go into causality.

I agree that violent people are maybe attracted to violent media. That does not necessarily mean violent people are violent because of violent media.

Especially when we're dealing with a large population of children who are exposed. I'm not sure what the statistics are, but I would assume well over 50% of teenagers play videogames regularly.

Its like saying most violent children eat meat, therefore meat must make you violent.
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Destructoid Blog
This is absolutely, brutally good journalism, Aerox. I've always been inclined to believe we're just composed of our experiences; aggression stands to reason.


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