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Blockbuster thinking about mailing games, Netflix is not photo

If you've ever wondered what it feels like to be obsolete just ask Blockbuster. The one time giant of the movie rental industry is now running a distant second to a little thing called Netflix. Their fix? They may start renting games as part of their media-by-mail programming. This is according to an email a Consumerist reader received that stated customers would "be able to choose from over 3,000 different games, including many popular new releases."

When this was brought up to a Netflix representative the idea was flatly rejected for that service. A rep stated that, "Movies are perennial. A great movie from 1972 is still a great movie but who wants to play Madden '95?"

As aggravatingly inaccurate as that statement is, it's pretty obvious why Netflix has no interest in renting games: they happen to be partnered with a bunch of companies who would rather see those games sold not rented. Slighting Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo might not be the best idea, especially when it is being reported that the three systems will be bringing in two million new subscribers for Netflix over 2010.

Would you ditch Netflix if Blockbuster offered up games?

Blockbuster Considering Adding Games-By-Mail Service [The Consumerist, via Joystiq]

Netflix to gain two million subscribers from consoles in 2010 [Joystiq]








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Bachonga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:05
Bachonga
Every Blockbuster near me is closing because of redbox and Netflix. Blockbusters pricing scheme is whack
mrblacksuit's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:12
mrblacksuit
Blockbusters service was pretty terrible. That's why in the end I switched to netflix. Then the blockbuster by my house closed.
D-Nez's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:12
D-Nez
Blockbuster online was awesome at the beginning. I had two free game rentals per month and with in store exchanges could have up to 6 (3 movie plan) movies out at a time.
More movie then I could actually keep up with. But slowly they kept chipping away at the perks and the nail in the coffin was all the stores around me closing. Netflixs turn around time is much faster aswell.
o-b-c's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:14
o-b-c
We only have one Blockbuster left in our city, and I'm pretty sure it's closing down. Mailing games is going to save them at this point. However, I really wish Netflix would do this; it's rather annoying to have both a Netflix and Gamefly membership.
Caspulex's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:18
Caspulex
I'd rather Gamefly and Netflix consolidated, but I wouldn't touch Blockbuster with a 40 foot pole.
protoknuckles's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:19
protoknuckles
As a current blockbuster employee I can tell you my store at least let's you rent games by mail if we don't have them in store. It's $9 for a week rental.
AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:24
AlexBebop
Sometimes I get surprised to find out Blockbuster is still around.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:35
HEL105
I get my Netflix movies one day after they leave the shipping center, while blockbuster DVDs take two. I really wouldn't care if Netflix added games, though. I'd rather they just stick to what they already do very well.
cali_yo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:38
cali_yo
I was under the impression that Netflix and Gamefly were owned by the same company, considering their services are practically identical. Maybe I was mistaken. Either way, everything around here is closing as well thanks to Netflix and Redbox (which is EVERYWHERE).

I honestly don't feel bad for Blockbuster, considering the egregious rates they charge for renting games. They have become a nice place to find used games for cheap, though (I found several games there, including Soul Calibur IV and GTA4, for $10 each).
feltron's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:41
feltron
I'm a former blockbuster employee and I now use Netflix. I love the streaming on my 360 and ps3. If blockbuster had that and the games I'd switch the games themselves are making me think about it. I'll wait to see the prices before I make my final decision.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:46
Takeshi
"Movies are perennial. A great movie from 1972 is still a great movie but who wants to play Madden '95?"

Well yeah but when you change Madden '95 into Final Fantasy VII a lot of people will disagree. A lot of movies that were great back then are shit now too. That whole statement doesn't make any sense. Jeez, I don't even know if Madden '95 was any good back in '95.

So Netflix what the fuck are you trying to tell me?
ndschroede23's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:46
ndschroede23
If they do I got some tough choices. It'd be tough to give up streaming but I'd get the opportunity to actually rent games.
Infinite Combo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:52
Infinite Combo
Netflix is slowly but surely becoming all Instant Watch. They probably don't want to get into renting games because they want to get away from mailing discs to homes and stream all of their content.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 20:59
Los255
If they plan to add late fees, they shouldn't even bother. As strict as those fuckers were with deadlines when I used to go to them, no thanks.

Leave the renting to Gamefly.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:14
Xzyliac
I'm in hot water with Gamefly. I cancelled my subscription and my credit card account and I still have two games lying around somewhere for them. I think they actually sent me a threatening letter from a lawyer the other day. >.>

Just...sharin'.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:15
Chronic Logic
Please be kind and rewind the games after you're done playing, thank you.
Explosion2's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:25
Explosion2
I want to play madden 95...
Caspulex's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:26
Caspulex
@Xzyliac, for shame.

Though, I have old stuff rented from Blockbuster and another local rental shop when they closed down...hee hee hee.
Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:28
Oishidesu
Netflix is better!!!
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:39
Tubatic
Drop Netflix for Blockbuster? Naw. Streaming + Quite Fast Dvd delivery is a checkmate.

Now if BlockBuster can get me games faster than the roughly 5 to 8 day turnaround that Gamefly gets me, then there's be some ditchin' afoot!
Brian Slaughter's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:43
Brian Slaughter
I'm good with Gamefly. It takes them 2 days to ship a game to me, which is perfectly acceptable as far as I'm concerned. If I'm in a bigger hurry than that to play a game, that usually means it's a buy instead of a rental anyway.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 21:53
Dynamic Sheep
Gamefly should have a "play instantly" option like Netflix's "watch instantly" option.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 22:01
manasteel88
yeah...I stopped using BB Online when they decided to raise my rates while reducing my benefits. Haven't gone into a blockbuster since.
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 22:05
liddokun
I sure hope Blockbuster won't close: here there is a Blockbuster, and a local video rental. Local one is so retarded that they had (back in the day) Final Fantasy 7 for rental. Sold to me at half the price, lol. Anyway, no Blockbuster would mean losing those two shelves for each console of rentable games... It's already bad like this thank you. Also, nothing like Gamefly in Italy.
AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 22:12
AlexBebop
@ DynamicSheep : I could see that happening when OnLive (or something else like it) comes out.
Rankcanine's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 22:17
Rankcanine
Meh i dont need a game rental service when my neighbor gets a new game every week. he beats them in a week and lets me borrow it for a month or 2 .
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 22:47
HiddenAHB
What is this Blockbuster thing you people talk about?
Malachi Constant's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 23:04
Malachi Constant
i wish i had netflix. i love films. always hated blockbuster, it was so inefficient running back and forth and paying a ton of money while doing so. still, i want blockbuster to improve their services so that they can stay in business and compete with netflix. competition is the discipline of the market economy, after all. without blockbuster, netflix would establish a monopoly, and have no reason to not raise prices.
Godoffragility's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 23:12
Godoffragility
I recently went to rent God of War 3 at Blockbuster and was not in stock but they offered to ship it to my house within 3 business days, it came in the mail and instead of shipping it back I took it in to by local Blockbuster store and got 2 bucks off any new release
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 23:28
Mr Andy Dixon
Somewhat on topic, I'm very close to dropping Gamefly altogether. I mean, the prices are GREAT, especially since I have a newborn baby and can't really afford to purchase games anymore, but the last game swap took exactly two weeks from when I put my old game in the mail, even though I had almost a dozen games in my queue and many were listed as medium to high availability. Way too long.
Volcanon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/10/2010 23:31
Volcanon
If blockbuster can offer games and movies in a single subscription that rivals the pricing scheme of either Netflix OR Gamefly (NOT both combined), has the same turnaround time, AND offered instant streaming like Netflix, then I would consider it :P
Attro's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 00:55
Attro
If they can beat Gamefly's week long turnaround then I'd certainly give blockbuster a shot. I dropped gamefly months ago because even when they say your next game is ready to go they sit on it for 3 days before actually even putting it in the mail to take another 4 days to get to you. Goozex is faster in most cases and if I want to keep the game it doesn't cost anything extra.
hyakushiki1234's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 03:11
hyakushiki1234
When i's £3.99 per month for a Lovefilm subscription with no late fees versus £7.99 to rent one sodding game for a week from Blockbusters in the UK there's no wonder they are going out of business. I say good riddance to them.
JDavis1186's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 06:08
JDavis1186
No. If I wanted a Netflix-like service for games, I'd get Gamefly. As it is, I haven't rented a game since... Kingdom Hearts 1? And I bought that after I rented it. Even though I already beat it.

I'd rather just buy games. I liked renting back in the day because I was a kid and couldn't buy games myself and it was easier to talk my parents into renting me Snowboard Kids for the 20th time than get them to buy it for me. Nowadays I just wish I had my own copies of the games I rented back then, so I could enjoy Super Mario RPG or Kirby's Super Star whenever I want.

But I'm one of those weirdos who never sales his games or trades them in or whatever either. Even the bad ones.
mizzougrad01's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 06:50
mizzougrad01
The blockbuster here in chicago is already mailing out games. there are signs all over their stores that say if you cant find the game you wanna rent in store, they will ship it to your house next day air. When im bored i stop by my bb every once in a while to rent crappy games for gamerscore.
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 08:32
themizarkshow
The only local movie/game rental stores are family owned or very small franchises. The blockbusters and hollywood videos have closed their doors already and given up their market to redbox and netflix. So I wouldn't bother.

Plus, I tend to buy and then resell if I don't want to keep the game. Stuff like Goozex is best for that and I'd keep using it over anything like Gamefly or Gamerang.
NiNFAN1990's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 08:52
NiNFAN1990
In the UK we have a little service named 'Lovefilm'... IT IS GOD!!
Cupcakes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 09:45
Cupcakes
i'd ditch netflix if blockbuster did streaming that didn't require microsoft bullshit silverlight to watch.

(putting madden 95 in my gamefly queue now)
all great games have a fart button's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 09:51
all great games have a fart button
I had Gamefly for a little bit. I liked the idea of renting it first and keeping it if it was good, that way the developers are still getting paid.
BUT...Gamefly was terrible at new releases. I could have a game on my list before it came out for months, yet when the game dropped they never seemed to have enough. I was always stuck playing some game that was like 8 months old and on my list just because I had some slight interest but had it at the bottom.

So if Blockbuster actually had enough in stock so I could rent a new game, that it was availible, I'd ditch Netflix faster than Brad Pitt ditched Jennifer Aniston.
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 09:53
Comrade Snarky
Yeah, I've heard Gamefly is terrible. I'd rather just wait a few months and pick games up used for a drastically reduced price. It's a shame to see Netflix, a company that I considered forward-thinking, be so short-sighted.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 11:20
Cowboy TTop
Yep LoveFilm/NetFlix, same thing different name.

Blockbuster can go to hell. If I'm right, When Netflix was starting up, they offered/pitched the same idea to Blockbuster, and unfortunately, Blockbuster with their bottomless pit of greed, refused the offer. What a huge mistake. Net Flix went out on their own against them, and the rest is history. Long live, competition.

With all those silly late fees etc, its no surprise they are dying. Renting a game, for the same amount of time as a movie (2-3 days), was stupid.
Grizzly Evans's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 11:24
Grizzly Evans
I tried renting mass effect 2 at blockbuster, but I had to pay 9 bison dollars and only rent it for 5 days. Makes you wonder how they are losing business...
Mattchewie's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 12:35
Mattchewie
I had BB's mail service back in the day. Shipping was fast and the store trade in perk was awesome. However pricing changes made me swtich to Netflix.

Then I got gamefly and after 2 years, I'm ditching them. Their mailing takes forever, I never get the games I want when I want them (even if they are "high or available now).

So if BB wanted to make a game subscription, I would keep netflix and just tack on BB cause right now I'm playing 25 a month for 2 games at a time and its not worth it.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 12:42
Occams electric toothbrush
I remember when Blockbuster had a Risque section. Those were fun times.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 13:26
KingSigy
If Blockbuster does movies by mail, streaming and games, then yes. Until then, I'm fine without renting games.
luvmysegadc's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 14:30
luvmysegadc
Blockbuster Video just can't die quick enough!
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 14:43
smurfee mcgee
I have had their mailing service, before Netflix, and it was really good. Was...
But they changed it.
I've always wondered why BB didn't do games by mail, though. They still have alot of stores, and they do have alot of games, so they could probably beat Gamefly in turn-around. I would gladly try it, if the price were reasonable. I wouldn't drop Netflix, though.
Also, did you know BB rentals are four days now? WTF? They're just trying to die as fast as possible.
Conrad Zimmerman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 17:06
Conrad Zimmerman
As many have stated, Blockbuster's turnaround time for their mail service isn't nearly as good as Netflix. Even when I dropped them off at the store, it could be three or four days before my next disc would be sent. Still faster than Gamefly, though.
Andrew5329's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 18:13
Andrew5329
I dont blame Netflix for wanting to avoid the game rentals.
1:Buying a copy of a new game costs a lot more than film.
2:As per the Madden 95 comment, Old films stay as good/relevant as the day they were releasted, and while some retro games would stay relevant for a nostalgia factor(final fantasy, ect..) from the point of view of a company buying thousands of copies of every game released per year, only a handful of which are still going to be rented with any frequency after a year or two.
3: People complain about how Gamefly doesnt meet the demand for a new game. Think of a hypothetical example: Madden 09, Gamefly buys a ton of discs to keep up w/ the initial demand to keep customers happy... Madden 10 releases and suddenly gamefly is sitting on 100,000 copies of Madden 09 only 1,000 of which are out at any time. So instead of buying so many copies, Gamefly only buys a fraction of the total demand because anything else would be financial suicide, and satisfaction (and subscriptions) suffers due to inavalibility of products.
From that point of view Its easy to see why Netflix would stick with movies only for the lower costs per disc, and that movies have far longer longevity in the medium term between New status and being "classic" or "retero". Besides that part of the reason Netflix is so successfull is because of the customer satisfaction which i doubt they would jeopardize by diverting resources in the first place.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2010 19:16
Vanilla Gorilla
That's a shame. I *almost* got the Netflix service through my PS3, and then I realized I don't watch TV and movies because I play games instead.

I was discussing Gamefly and Netflix with a guy I work with who has subscriptions to both, and he says essentially that Netflix fucking rules, and Gamefly is borderline not worth it because their wait times take about a week.

Sadness, I was kind of rooting for Netflix to expand into games.
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