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Luckily, other than a bit of APB, I don't play MMOs.
And seriously, who the fuck would want MMO weirdo's with no life to have access to your name?
And seriously, who the fuck would want MMO weirdo's with no life to have access to your name?
Not only do I find this a good move, but think of it as indicative of a changing internet. Hive mind is good and all but mostly it just engineers freedom of speech without responsibility. At least in certain circles.
Ill be honest and say I didn't read the full article. I did read about this on Reddit though and.... how is this a good thing? If someone can explain why it is good and why they are doing it then please let me know.
I love the idea to be honest, the amount of Internet rtards will go down some on those sites and its a bad thing how? It's not a privacy thing at all because you are told this before you post anything going forward that you're name goes on there now. Don't like it then either don't post or you know you could just act like a normal human being and not act like an asshole.
Well if it gets some trolls to stop being such awful trolls, then by all means. We'll use this as a reference in the future about the origin of dickheads on the internet when someone says it's the anonymity. dont think i spelled that right.
I'm really not sure if I consider this to be a good thing or a bad thing. Honestly I could see it go either way, but honestly they're gonna have a hard time getting this to go over well.
I like this idea. The only downside I see, is if someone decides to take a persons comments a little to personally, they now have a name to go after. Other than that, I see this as a great way to force people to act more maturely.
@BigRedPirate: Blizzard is requiring that you take responsibility for the things you say. That answered your question I believe.
@Gritzy
Well I can understand that but what about freedom of speech and being anonymous? I am all for weeding out the assholes and such for stupid remarks but I believe in being anonymous. Or having the option to be.
Well I can understand that but what about freedom of speech and being anonymous? I am all for weeding out the assholes and such for stupid remarks but I believe in being anonymous. Or having the option to be.
Just a few things I've been thinking about:
Celebrities(Even minor celebrities) want their privacy. This means they can no longer post on the forums. And Blizzard wants to introduce this into the game proper.
People like me with a unique name can easily be searched. An employer might not hire me because I play WoW or maybe even because I said Warlocks need a nerf.
The internet should be a place where you can be whoever you want. God forbid you are a WoW roleplayer you're gonna have your name attached to roleplaying logs and that probably won't end well.
Also, to change your name you need to send Blizzard a photo ID. That's a pain in the ass.
Celebrities(Even minor celebrities) want their privacy. This means they can no longer post on the forums. And Blizzard wants to introduce this into the game proper.
People like me with a unique name can easily be searched. An employer might not hire me because I play WoW or maybe even because I said Warlocks need a nerf.
The internet should be a place where you can be whoever you want. God forbid you are a WoW roleplayer you're gonna have your name attached to roleplaying logs and that probably won't end well.
Also, to change your name you need to send Blizzard a photo ID. That's a pain in the ass.
I guess that makes sense, but why would an Employer be searching the net and taking forum activity into consideration?
BigRedPirate:
Because I'm on the internet under a pseudonym I have to ask: Are you some sort of stupid illiterate fuckwit?
(That's your reason)
Because I'm on the internet under a pseudonym I have to ask: Are you some sort of stupid illiterate fuckwit?
(That's your reason)
I like how the only guy in this thread posting under his real name, is completely against this idea. It really is a matter of personal choice.
Ways to get around this:
Change our real life names to our most used online names.
Virtuality is better than real life anyway, might as well dispose of our real names.
Change our real life names to our most used online names.
Virtuality is better than real life anyway, might as well dispose of our real names.
@comradetrotskii
Wow. Such hostility just for asking a question and giving an opinion lol. Sorry for stepping on ye holiest of toes sir!
Wow. Such hostility just for asking a question and giving an opinion lol. Sorry for stepping on ye holiest of toes sir!
Employer's do crazy shit sometimes.
I don't really like this idea, only because my name a hassle to type.
And Weird.
I can't tell you how many people think my first name is my last name, or how they flip when I tell 'em my real last name.....
If I can use shorthand, I'll be more on.....
I don't really like this idea, only because my name a hassle to type.
And Weird.
I can't tell you how many people think my first name is my last name, or how they flip when I tell 'em my real last name.....
If I can use shorthand, I'll be more on.....
@Sir Legendhead: Eric Gritzmacher. Me. I just used my nickname... cause its a forum site and thats the thing to do. I'd be more than happy to switch to my given name if that becomes the norm. And as for the celebrity bit I'd hope that Blizzard would be accommodating to those where their real name would legitimately cause a problem. Granted... knowing it was Mr. T. you were talking to would help get that fucking grenade I see every night on TV. Anonymity vs. otherwise is tricky; I think make exceptions for those who need it, make spaces for those who want to use it (4chan etc), but for the most part less anonymity is a good thing.
BigREdPirate:
You're not getting it are you man :)
The point that Blizard are making is that I would never have responded to you in such a manner had I been posting under my real name.
(Further clarification just in case: I was not actually calling you names, I reserve name calling for people who have different opinions to me not people who are asking questions)
You're not getting it are you man :)
The point that Blizard are making is that I would never have responded to you in such a manner had I been posting under my real name.
(Further clarification just in case: I was not actually calling you names, I reserve name calling for people who have different opinions to me not people who are asking questions)
This whole saga where Blizzard is making WoW more of a social network is scaring me. I highly doubt this will be the end of WoW, but I believe it will stop many forum posts, true or troll, to be posted. Some of the best players simply like to hide in the shadows of the anonymity of the forums to get their point stated. That isn't to say it won't help the troll problem. It probably will, slightly. There'll be a new wave of trolls, I suspect.
I don't get it, if you don't agree with it, then just don't post on those forums. How hard is that? I don't mean to sound like a douche, but you don't HAVE to post there if you don't want to. If this helps weed out assholes, then let Blizzard do it. I can see both sides of the argument, but damn if this isn't a great way to get douchebags off your site.
May have been hit on, but in another bit about this, I saw something that quite simply showed how bullshit this is:
Gamers aren't well-liked.
Ignoring the fact that some gamers are well-read, well-intentioned, and whatnot, there is still a negative social stigma around them.
Most specifically, from older employers. In this market, finding a job is hard enough, and if a boss sees that you play WoW or Starcraft... say goodbye to your position.
WoW players especially, because pretty much no one but other WoW players has any respect for them.
Or, you know, the psychopaths who go and kill someone when they find out who stole all their loot. There's them too.
Gamers aren't well-liked.
Ignoring the fact that some gamers are well-read, well-intentioned, and whatnot, there is still a negative social stigma around them.
Most specifically, from older employers. In this market, finding a job is hard enough, and if a boss sees that you play WoW or Starcraft... say goodbye to your position.
WoW players especially, because pretty much no one but other WoW players has any respect for them.
Or, you know, the psychopaths who go and kill someone when they find out who stole all their loot. There's them too.
@Comrade
Sorry buddy. I zapped you an email explaining myself lol. Sorry I missed the sarcasm! DERP DERP DERP
Sorry buddy. I zapped you an email explaining myself lol. Sorry I missed the sarcasm! DERP DERP DERP
@AKK
I know what you mean about the psychopaths, I remember a bunch of morons who were banned contacting an XBL employee when they got his info and began sending threats. It could possibly be better to appease and threaten to show a users full name after committing an offense.
I know what you mean about the psychopaths, I remember a bunch of morons who were banned contacting an XBL employee when they got his info and began sending threats. It could possibly be better to appease and threaten to show a users full name after committing an offense.
While fostering some politeness on the internet is always a good thing I think it's kind of irresponsible for Blizzard to give out people's names online. There's a decent amount you can do with someone's name, particularly if you just want to be a petty piece of crap harassment case. It's not the biggest security risk or anything (given Twitter and Facebook) but putting people online in competition with each other on a full name basis is asking for some trouble.
This feels like it was pulled straight from the Mass Effect 2 development plan
People don't like exploring worlds on the mako? RIP OUT EXPLORING WORLDS
People don't like the inventory system? RIP OUT THE INVENTORY
People don't like how much anonymity we afford on our forums, which is an astoundingly large amount considering creating a new identity is as simple as pressing a button? RIP OUT THE ANONYMITY
Surely, we can't just have unique account aliases that would allow players to determine when that level 1 orc is actually the level 80 mage they grouped with yesterday, without the issue of name overlap ("I'm John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt." "NO WAY, Thats my name too!" "Yeah, whenever I go out, people always shout, I have no clue what that is about")
Its not like that sort of thing doesn't work for say every large internet community ever. Hell, Blizzard has one up on those communities since creating a new forum account would require buying the $20-$60 game again, and in the case of WoW, maintaining a second subscription.
People don't like exploring worlds on the mako? RIP OUT EXPLORING WORLDS
People don't like the inventory system? RIP OUT THE INVENTORY
People don't like how much anonymity we afford on our forums, which is an astoundingly large amount considering creating a new identity is as simple as pressing a button? RIP OUT THE ANONYMITY
Surely, we can't just have unique account aliases that would allow players to determine when that level 1 orc is actually the level 80 mage they grouped with yesterday, without the issue of name overlap ("I'm John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt." "NO WAY, Thats my name too!" "Yeah, whenever I go out, people always shout, I have no clue what that is about")
Its not like that sort of thing doesn't work for say every large internet community ever. Hell, Blizzard has one up on those communities since creating a new forum account would require buying the $20-$60 game again, and in the case of WoW, maintaining a second subscription.
The main purpose of this is to have a UNIVERSAL friends list. Blizzard wants to go the route of Steam/Facebook. The only people who have a problem with this are the www.4chan.org kiddies who think 'WE R ANONYMOU5' but those people are the scum of the Earth, so who gives a shit about them.
This doesn't change ANYTHING other than improving the in-game(for all Blizzard games) friends list and if a side-effect of it is less assholes/racists/douchebags trolling the forums, why the hell not?
Much like when people try to justify piracy, the only people raging against this change, are those pirate 4chan assholes.
And yes, I actually play WoW but I don't act like a douchebag on the forums so this doesn't affect me.
This doesn't change ANYTHING other than improving the in-game(for all Blizzard games) friends list and if a side-effect of it is less assholes/racists/douchebags trolling the forums, why the hell not?
Much like when people try to justify piracy, the only people raging against this change, are those pirate 4chan assholes.
And yes, I actually play WoW but I don't act like a douchebag on the forums so this doesn't affect me.
The only way this will combat trolling and shit is because less people will be using the forums due to this. It may not be because they are trolls, but they would rather not have their name publicized to random people.
I also like to add that I like my Pseudonym. I may have come up with it 4 or so years ago on my PS2 exclusive high, but since then, it's really grown on me.
I'd really hate to see people not call me Daxelman or Dax or Daxel on the internet. I don't know about you, but I frequently read aloud to myself, and saying nicknames/real names is something I do a lot. I'd hate for someone like me to have to reiterate my unusual last name over and over again anytime they want to read something I say.
...
I don't play Blizzard games, what am I doing here?
GUILD WARS 2 IS WHERE IT'S AT NOW, RIGHT GUYS?
I'd really hate to see people not call me Daxelman or Dax or Daxel on the internet. I don't know about you, but I frequently read aloud to myself, and saying nicknames/real names is something I do a lot. I'd hate for someone like me to have to reiterate my unusual last name over and over again anytime they want to read something I say.
...
I don't play Blizzard games, what am I doing here?
GUILD WARS 2 IS WHERE IT'S AT NOW, RIGHT GUYS?
From what I've seen, in WoW anyway. Only the people you choose to have as RealID friends will see your real name (assuming you used your real name when you signed up, if you pay with prepay credit cards that is optional I'd bet.)
Granted this doesn't include the message boards, but I can't see much of a problem there. Either people will shape up and act like adults or they will go to whatever lengths needed to ensure that their real name isn't even connected to the internets.
Or they'll keep on keepin on hahahaha.
Granted this doesn't include the message boards, but I can't see much of a problem there. Either people will shape up and act like adults or they will go to whatever lengths needed to ensure that their real name isn't even connected to the internets.
Or they'll keep on keepin on hahahaha.
@Daxelman: WoW > GW <3
Also, I get what you're saying. I would always feel uncomfortable when my guildmates would be like "So I was over at Chad's yesterday and Josh was there so we got drunk and then Stacey came over and we went to get burgers with Steve. Hey Jason, heal me please, JIM GET AWAY FROM THE BOSS!"
On the one hand, its cool that a lot of people in the game know eachother either in real life, or just on a first-name basis but whenever they'd talk to be I'd be wary about using my real name, I'd always just use and go-by my WoW toon's name.
I sometimes quote people I've met online, in real life and I always say their username. Its going to take a bit of getting used to but I believe the Pro's outweigh the Con's.
Also, I get what you're saying. I would always feel uncomfortable when my guildmates would be like "So I was over at Chad's yesterday and Josh was there so we got drunk and then Stacey came over and we went to get burgers with Steve. Hey Jason, heal me please, JIM GET AWAY FROM THE BOSS!"
On the one hand, its cool that a lot of people in the game know eachother either in real life, or just on a first-name basis but whenever they'd talk to be I'd be wary about using my real name, I'd always just use and go-by my WoW toon's name.
I sometimes quote people I've met online, in real life and I always say their username. Its going to take a bit of getting used to but I believe the Pro's outweigh the Con's.
At least we'll now know that 99% of the WoW community are sex offenders. The other 1% are too scared to even touch their penis.
Maybe I am looking too much into this. Hell, I don't even play or use any Blizzard software at the moment. (Blasphemy!! I know!!) But does this anger you guys like it does me? Id be all for doing some sort of petition. I just think the whole thing is wrong, no matter what kind of positive thing they are trying to do. Am I just being too crazy?
@Rammstein: Bro, GW2 has Dragons. And is free.
They should at least force you to put your Real Name in your Profile or in that little Avatar Slot shit with a short hand of your info. That way, The Username still stands as the norm, and any pervert....I mean, concerned user who wants to know your name can find out with one click.
Keeps shit simple and what not.
They should at least force you to put your Real Name in your Profile or in that little Avatar Slot shit with a short hand of your info. That way, The Username still stands as the norm, and any pervert....I mean, concerned user who wants to know your name can find out with one click.
Keeps shit simple and what not.
This could possibly be the best thing that's happened to the internet.
I've thought for years that everybody should have a universal profile with a picture of them as the avatar. Trolls are only trolls because they know they're (mostly) anonymous to the public, and they aren't so intimidating when their picture of Sephiroth (or what have you) is replaced with that of a fat, pimply teenager. :)
I've thought for years that everybody should have a universal profile with a picture of them as the avatar. Trolls are only trolls because they know they're (mostly) anonymous to the public, and they aren't so intimidating when their picture of Sephiroth (or what have you) is replaced with that of a fat, pimply teenager. :)
huzah, now when some kid gets pissed at me for killing him, he can google up my blog and proceed to trash me and all the websites I link to on it.
This is a great idea >_>
This is a great idea >_>
Or people will start using fake names in addition to aliases.
Unless Blizzard plans of using the name tied to people's credit cards (which would get Blizzard dragged into court for customer protection violations), this isn't going to do a damned thing.
Unless Blizzard plans of using the name tied to people's credit cards (which would get Blizzard dragged into court for customer protection violations), this isn't going to do a damned thing.
Eh, I don't particularily mind something like this. I can't really think of anything I've ever said I wouldn't say to a person in real life. If it reduced the number of idiots on the internet by even 10%, I'd consider it a service to humanity. That said though, anonymity is one of the things that makes the internet truly unique and to try and get rid of that would have damning consequences.
@Butternine: yeah, becauyse theres definitely no such thing on the internet as stalkers or people who would absolutely love bunches of real names for use in fraud and social engineering attempts.
@Midgetsnowman
Those people already know how to easily obtain that information if/when they want it.
I do understand what you're saying though. :)
Those people already know how to easily obtain that information if/when they want it.
I do understand what you're saying though. :)
Well, I know what I'm going to do.
Name: Bruce Wayne
Address: 1007 Mountain Drive, Gotham Citry, New York
email address: Iamthebatman@gmail.com
Name: Bruce Wayne
Address: 1007 Mountain Drive, Gotham Citry, New York
email address: Iamthebatman@gmail.com
The funny thing about that is my issue with it is actually against anonymity. I use the same name "Pigmy Wurm" on almost every forum that I go to. If someone from one forum that I have been to sees me someplace else they will know that it is me. Yes their is still some anonymity since they don't know who I really am but posting my real name wont make me any less anonymous. My name is really common (Google search doesn't come back with anything) and so unless I post my address or something I actually would have more anonymity using my real name than my screen name.
But I realize that I am something of an exception
But I realize that I am something of an exception
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