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Blizzard: Diablo III with a gamepad 'feels even better' photo

Those of you who have knee-jerk reactions should look away now. Actually, the headline is only a tiny snippet of the story here. Diablo III's appearance on consoles has long been rumored and it looks like Blizzard has admitted to experimenting with alternate control methods for the title, including using an Xbox 360-esque gamepad.

Game director Jay Wilson says Blizzard devs felt that concerning Diablo III, "the control and style of the game lends itself to a console," adding they had tried a "360-like" controller and "this feels even better with direct control." It makes sense -- I mean, Diablo came out on the PlayStation, after all.

Wilson also stated that the studio doesn't see itself as a PC developer, rather, "the games we want to make suit the PC platform." I think if you looked at Blizzard's franchises, Diablo III's fast action and combat-heavy style would suit a console release. The Diablo-style Torchlight did well on consoles, so I can't see not having a mouse and keyboard being a serious drawback if the controls were implemented properly. However, Wilson says there's no plans to include gamepad support for Diablo III at launch.

Blizzard's Diablo 3 experiments: "oh this feels even better with direct control" [PC Gamer]








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Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:04
Tristrix
*shrug* Sounds good to me. More platforms = more people playing what should be a wonderful game. How could that possibly be a bad thing?
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:11
Chris Carter
It feels good because Diablo 2's 10-15 active skills have been toned down to around 5.

Not judging yet whether or not this is a Mass Effect 2 "good" streamlining or a Dragon Age 2 dumbification, but after plating the beta I can see this. The beta is wonderful by the way - I have no doubt Diablo's userbase will double, given how low the barriers of entry are now.
dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:18
dtomek
After Sacred 2 I can't even imagine going back to KB&M for hack-n-slashers. Incredibly quick and accurate access to over 12 user definable hot keys, no more misclicks while using ranged attacks, direct and simple control of character movement, etc. The only downside I can see to a gamepad for this genre is inventory management. Considering hack-n-slashers are oriented towards action first, inventory management second, I'll take a gamepad thanks.

Also, this game is going to be amazing whether they let me play on my big screen (X360) or not.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:19
Scuffles
@Tristrix

Would be really nice if it was X-platform.... assuming they didn't gimp the PC versions controls like it seems they do whenever that happens.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:20
Epic-Kx
>.> Torchlight 2 it is then!
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:21
Scuffles
@Epic-Kx

Oh yeah don't get me wrong T2 is likely going to be my virtual drug of choice, well that and GW2, Mmmmmmmmmm
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:26
KingSigy
Nope. It doesn't. I tried the playstation version and it sucked.
obagelista's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:29
obagelista
I was fine with the keyboard and mouse for Diablo 2 and Torchlight, but I preferred the Xbox pad for Deathspank. KB&M just didn't feel right to me. I'll be curious to try the different styles.
SonicTHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:39
SonicTHP
Would Microsoft allow Blizzard to use Battle.net integration? Isn't that the sort of thing that keeps some online games off the 360?
Manthai's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:42
Manthai
If this is true they must have streamlined things a lot since D2... I probably won't like it as much but I'm still in. Will stick to my mouse though I think.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:47
TrevHead
If it plays like the original PS1 Diablo he is talking out of his arse

"It feels good because Diablo 2's 10-15 active skills have been toned down to around 5"

Urg I dont like the sound of that. Since I like so many different genres I was putting off playing a hack and slasher until D3 but now I might just buy D2s expansion pack and play that instead (with the main game)
Roughknight's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:52
Roughknight
I actually got a chance to check out the beta, and I could see the game lending itself to a gamepad quite nicely. Keep in mind, this is coming from the guy who only played about 15 minutes of Diablo 2 many years ago. I essentially played the beta one-handed the whole time, save a few presses of the 1 and 2 keys, but that doesn't mean it was bad. My cousin basically walked me through all the changes, and while I can see the frustrations some series veterans might have, the changes honestly aren't so intrusive that they would ruin the experience (ex, selling items from the inventory?, it's a tiny little icon you can choose to ignore if you don't think it's "hardcore" enough). From a newcomer's perspective, I think it's shaping up quite nicely, and any additional options the player has is never a bad thing.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:57
Chris Carter
@Trev
You still get a giant pool of 30ish skills; you can only just use a small amount of them at a time. Take that as you will :)
ronlocke's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 18:58
ronlocke
If they allow PC and xbox 360 and ps3 to play at the same time, I am in.. If not that's going to be wrong.
monkeyrevenge42's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:02
monkeyrevenge42
I hate to brag, but I had this exclusive nearly 2 years ago. I was at blizzcon 2 years ago and while slightly tipsy walked up to a guy at a bar and said "Has anyone every told you that you look like Kevin Smith?" and the guy laughed and said no. That guy was Jay Wilson and I talked to him about Diablo III for a bit, told him what I thought of the demo there, and asked about gamepad support. And he said they were working on it and if it feels good it will definitely be in the game. I tried posted that on sites like mmochamp, screwattack, g4 and some others back then, but without actual evidence no one believed me! Guess I have the last laugh!
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:02
Tristrix
@Trev

Also worth pointing out that each of your 6 active skills are modified by the use of runes. There's something like 5 or 6 possible runes to choose from that can be slotted into the skill (you can only use 1 rune per skill) and each drastically modifies it in some way.

So yeah, it's only 6 active skills, but given the possible combinations of skills and runes to choose from, it's still seems very deep and complex.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:16
Arttemis
@monkey - 2 years ago I got to play D3 at PAX. The simplification of the skill keys didn't sell that terrible to me. Keys 1-4 are free because potion spamming has been eliminated, and you use the keys for attacks. It seemed very similar to Torchlight.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:17
Arttemis
But I believe you.
Nitex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:21
Nitex
So how will 6 skills work with a controller? Usually only 2 or 3 work. Even if it does come out to current consoles will people really want to wait 2 years longer for it?
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:25
Stinky
I'd believe it, Torchlight is great to play on 360.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:33
TrevHead
Ah i see, I thought Magnalon ment the other type of active / passive, where passive is basically just a stat boost thats always on.

Thx god for that clarification I was getting worried for a minute :)
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:39
UltorOscariot
Eh. I do not find it surprising if Diablo 3 ends up on consoles. Not the end of the world.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 19:50
Chris Carter
@tris
While runes haven't been implemented in beta yet I haven't tried it, but keep in mind that even a passive aura you may never activate will take an active slot. So some characters may only be utilizing 4 or so activated skills; a far cry from D1-2, which had like 10+ needed at all times.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:04
TrevHead
"Eh. I do not find it surprising if Diablo 3 ends up on consoles. Not the end of the world"

Call me an PC elitist (I dont care) but I just hate seeing games get dumbed down, although it seems that D3 isnt so bad.

Still I dont see why Blizzard dont allow M&K users to just map 10 active skills to the number keys and let pad player have 6.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:05
TrevHead
Reads this after posting

"but keep in mind that even a passive aura you may never activate will take an active slot. So some characters may only be utilizing 4 or so activated skills"

Sigh....
TXYeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:07
TXYeti
I would spend so much money so fast on an xbox D3 release. Charge me $150 for it, I don't care. Do. Want. So. Hard.
Lucky Pierre's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:14
Lucky Pierre
Cross platform play across PC, PS3, and Xbox360??? That would actually be pretty cool if they could pull it off.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:30
Tristrix
@magnalon

Granted I'm not in the beta, but according to the skill builder tool on the Blizz website, there are 6 active slots and 4 passive slots. In other words, from what they're showing on there, you still get 6 active skills even with the passives slotted.

maybe that's just not been implemented yet in the beta?
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:32
Chris Carter
@trist
There are 3 passive slots. They're for buffs and the like.

However, Monk/Sorc auras and Witch Doctor summons are active abilities. You never have to use them but you have to "equip" them.
Skullo Dream's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:42
Skullo Dream
The combat could work well on consoles for sure. I personally don't like dicking around with all of the menus and sorting through inventory with a controller for games like these though.
wallet's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 20:56
wallet
I can see where they are coming from. Diablo style action rpgs are more focused on movement and dont require precision in your clicks. Controller analogue stick it pretty much as good as you can get for movement in a game. Ive played a couple action rpgs on console and thought they were pretty good.

I dont see the hate. Its still being built for mouse and keyboard on PC.
Baby Choo Choo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 21:15
Baby Choo Choo
@KingSigy

You tried the Playstation 1 version of Diablo 3? Cool, let me borrow your weird alternate dimension time machine after you come back from the world where FFXIII doesn't suck and APB was a smash hit.
Boe Vice's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 21:35
Boe Vice
this will not be an xbla title. Also, this dude looks like an Israeli terrorist from a Schwarzenegger flick.
Baines's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 22:20
Baines
To be honest, most of the Diablo-style games seem to me better suited for a controller than a keyboard.
goatnuke's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 23:21
goatnuke
@jimmyx - 1. Diablo 3 is the furthest thing from a XBLA game.
2. RTSonconsoleslol
Laharl-KOTNW's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2011 23:51
Laharl-KOTNW
I really want a 360 version of this, I'm to broke to be a PC gamer.
Nyktharas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 00:00
Nyktharas
@Laharl-KOTNW

It run's on my girlfriend's $300.00 ACER BZ600 on medium settings. If you have enough for an Xbox, you have enough for a rig that can run D3.

The minimum system req. Blizzard has stated seem to be waaaaaaaay more then you need.
Laharl-KOTNW's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 00:07
Laharl-KOTNW
@Nyktharas
That does sound pretty affordable, but I'm a poor college student. My friend gave me his old 360 a while back when he upgraded.
ElektroDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 00:19
ElektroDragon
AntiVision Blowhard are at it again. Take as long as Duke Nukem Forever to put the game out, rave about gamepad controls, then don't include them at launch. Can we boycott this stupid company?
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 00:26
Nerdy Suit
I'm obviously excited to play this game...but why am I more excited to play Torchlight 2?
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 01:44
Volomon
I'm only interested if crossplatform is included. Otherwise it's pointless. The PC version will have an extremely long life cycle spurred by added content on a regular basis and promoted by the community. A console audience as with almost all games tend to die out because they do not receive the same support their PC brothers get. With a crossplatform which should be easy, btw, it would serve to bring a whole new realm of gaming to console.

Especially with PS3 which is already PnP compatible with keyboards.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 03:09
pedrovay2003
What Volomon said. The PS3 is compatible with keyboards and mice, and always has been. I think two games use that feature. Hell, even PC God-developer Valve didn't put keyboard and mouse controls into Portal 2.
Beechbone's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 03:29
Beechbone
Torchlight was even better on console than PC, Blizzard should follow the steps of this game and give console players a chance to play Diablo III.
RaginDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 03:30
RaginDude
So another great classic going down the drain, fantastic. Also when do we start paying for Battle.net?
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 03:49
Tristrix
Absolutely amazing how bratty some people are being because a dev dared mention a console controller.
DannyR92's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 04:08
DannyR92
I don't mind at all.I love playing so PC games with my controler.Much more relaxing.And it is not a suprise that the game comes on console.It would be stupid on their part not to release it and loose millions.
DannyR92's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 04:09
DannyR92
I don't mind at all.I love playing some PC games with my controler.Much more relaxing.And it is not a suprise that the game comes on console.It would be stupid on their part not to release it and loose millions.
Fullmetalfox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 04:32
Fullmetalfox
I was convinced that a controller is much better for this genre than mouse and keyboard ever since I played Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance and Champions of Norrath on the PS2.
koopi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/23/2011 05:07
koopi
I like to play DeathSpank and Torchlight with an Xbox controller, so this is good news for me! :3
They're gonna make a lot $ if they make it for consoles too.
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