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Bleszinski misses the point of Mirror's Edge, demands more guns
8:09 AM on 11.05.2008, Jim Sterling 64 comments

Bleszinski misses the point of Mirror's Edge, demands more guns photo
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Gears of War 2 developer Cliff "Don't Call Me CliffyB" Bleszinski has been sharing his thoughts on all the latest releases, marking out the games that have caught his eye recently. In particular, he seems to have missed the point of Mirror's Edge, wanting to see more "gunplay" involved.

"Fable II looks cool. And Resident Evil 5 is next year, right? I'm dying for that, I loved RE4. Street Fighter IV looks sick, and Dead Space also looks solid," Cliffy began. "I loved Event Horizon and all of those movies, so they're making Dead Space for guys like me. That's my genre, and it looks great."

"I think Mirror's Edge will be great, too, but they're showing me too much parkour, I want to see the gunplay. I hope it's not all just running and jumping. As long as there's something chasing me...even Mario had Goombas, you know?"

Oh Cliff, I know all your games are gun porn, but that doesn't mean hot lead needs to be spewed in every videogame that comes out.


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lastSKYsamurai's Avatar
lastSKYsamurai at 11/05/2008 08:10
Lol. All I can do is laugh at that. classic....
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Bacon Burger at 11/05/2008 08:11
Played the demo last night, and I was hooked.

I feel like Sonic Team has a lesson, or two, to learn from Mirror's Edge in the speed, flow, fun categories.
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garison at 11/05/2008 08:13
@Bacon Burger

Nice, I didn't even think of that,
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Video Cognito at 11/05/2008 08:14
Sounds like he made a sarcastic remark.
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DeusPayne at 11/05/2008 08:15
/facepalm

cliffy... is he braindead?
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ghettosmurf at 11/05/2008 08:16
I finally got my hands on the demo last night and I am very impressed. I find the game much more entertaining with Runner Vision turned off, as well.

Personally, some of my favorites parts of the demo are jacking the guns from dudes and immediately throwing them away. I don't plan on firing a single shot, and I'll have a blast.
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Professor Pew at 11/05/2008 08:22
Oh dear, I think I'm in love with him. The combat in ME feels so awkward in the demo, I almost wish they just would've let it out and focused on creating some more levels or something.
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MrSadistic at 11/05/2008 08:26
@Squawk

Uh.. regular porn?
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ParaParaKing at 11/05/2008 08:26
YEAH! I also wonder, why there are no chainsaws in Mirror's Edge.
KMCC's Avatar
KMCC at 11/05/2008 08:29
Gunplay? Ahahahahahaha
blehman's Avatar
blehman at 11/05/2008 08:32
I agree with Cliffy B. /rhymes
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Kryptinite at 11/05/2008 08:33
Amen.
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Riser Glen at 11/05/2008 08:33
Yeah, I'm understand what he's getting at.
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JustLikeBuck at 11/05/2008 08:33
Hahahahaah... Good Insight.

FIRE BAD! FIRE BAD!

Mirrors edge needs more cover, guns and a third perspective!
Clance's Avatar
Clance at 11/05/2008 08:33
Who is this guy to say "even Mario..."

EVEN MARIO!?

As for the gunplay.... That is just.... *gasp*... puke.

That's why he'll always be Cliffy B.
Riser Glen's Avatar
Riser Glen at 11/05/2008 08:33
I'm also can't brain today.

Anyway, OBAMA!
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KGBrAm at 11/05/2008 08:37
Actually....my demo impressions boil down to:

Look around, see red, press a button on red surface....repeat.

I get what he's getting at. Can't really blame him if you look at his portfolio of games.
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Clance at 11/05/2008 08:41
@KGBrAm,

Tetris need more guns?
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Holyetheline at 11/05/2008 08:44
he just made himself look like an idiot there.
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BlindsideDork at 11/05/2008 08:45
He better hav e loved RE4, I mean he did copy it for his game.
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sbshootme at 11/05/2008 08:48
obvious troll.
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KGBrAm at 11/05/2008 09:02
@Clance

Not what I said at all :)

I'm just still on the fence for ME. I'm not saying I want rocket launchers in it, I'm just saying I see where Cliff is coming from.

The demo was interesting, great look, fresh gameplay and all that.

I'm just worried that the game will seem repetitive after a few hours. It does not seem as free-roaming as I would like it to be and the parkour paths look fairly scripted/linear.

That being said, I can see why Cliff would like a bit more variety in the scenarios prresented in ME.

Also, don't be an ass for no reason. WTF does tetris have to do with this? I'm a game designer myself and I have an opinion. Sue me.
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KGBrAm at 11/05/2008 09:06
Edit:

Then again, I'll play the full version before giving a verdict. SOme of you should do the same. Hype, fanboy-ism and all that. :)
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Kaspar at 11/05/2008 09:13
Wow. This was blunt and stupid.
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Clance at 11/05/2008 09:13
@KGBrAM,

I'll see you in court... ;op

Sorry to seem a arse. I was just making a point about games being good with a simple structure and repetitive gameplay. It was a dodgy remark, I'll give you that.

Personally, I find the gameplay exhilirating. OK, so she hasn't quite accomplished her trade as well as me in real life, but it means I don't run the risk of breaking my neck.

I too am eager to see whether they actually add enough variety to keep things fresh. I'm sure they are fully aware of the possible reaction Mirror's Edge may get, all they need to look at is Assassin's Creed. I enjoyed that one anyway, I'm just looking forward to having some fun with this one.

I'd say i is the most addictive demo I've played in a long time, which can only be a good thing.
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Emrah at 11/05/2008 09:15
He might well be joking..
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Askherserenity at 11/05/2008 09:24
@KGBrAM

I think you really have to try out the time trial mode in the demo. I played the story mode and was kinda impressed. My friend hooked me up with the time trial mode and I got hooked. I seriously spent 3-4 hours straight just finding new and faster ways to get to the end of the run and trying to get on the leaderboards. It's really not about following the red objects around the stage, you can even take that option off if you wanted to.Like someone posted earlier, it really reminds me of what Sonic did back when it first came out and Sega should take notice.
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KGBrAm at 11/05/2008 09:26
@Clance

Good stuff! Apologies from myself also! Have a good one D-toiders
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Uther at 11/05/2008 09:38
Oh Cliffy, your testosterone-laced opinions are pure gold...
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Syn at 11/05/2008 09:41
Needs more kamehameha.

@BaconBurger: hmm.....first person Sonic The Hedgehog? You think that would work? Or do people have to see the blue to enjoy him?
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DynamicSheep at 11/05/2008 10:07
I kind of agree with him. I played the demo and, while it was fun, I couldn't help but feel like there should be more to the game. I'd like to see the momentum engine used for this game plugged into more fleshed out experiences.

Imagine this engine in Resident Evil 6? The fight or flight reaction could actually be tinkered with in the player if the game was able to allow you to choose flight as a viable option.
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Spectral at 11/05/2008 10:07
shoot to kill
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weedgan at 11/05/2008 10:09
Well the fact that he drives a lambo and works for epic games ( unreal engine...most poeple have no idea how many games use this engine), I doubt he even really cares.

He did somethings right, and what many people fail to realize is that he was probably just being sarcastic.
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AlucardX24 at 11/05/2008 10:20
Cliff is a man. A manly man. Of course he can't accept Mirror's Edge. It doesn't have bear blasting.
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brainderailment at 11/05/2008 10:24
I'm 100% behind any game that can go skimpy on the violence and give me an excellent, compelling, and rich gaming experience. Having said that, I don't think Mirror's Edge is that game. That's just me, I know people are sniffing their own farts over this game (like I was and am over LBP), I just don't see the substance in it.
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king3vbo at 11/05/2008 10:33
I'm also appalled at the lack of bear cavalry in Mirror's Edge. A game about parkour on rooftops of a sterilized city definitely needs some bear cavalry

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Sharpless at 11/05/2008 10:46
Oh Cliffy... you're going to be so disappointed.
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MissHinasaki at 11/05/2008 10:57
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Timmeh at 11/05/2008 13:16
I don't get these combat complaints, the melee system is smooth sailing after 5 minutes with that demo. Sure guns are a bit lackluster but it's pretty damn clear you aren't meant to be engaging in shootouts. Maybe pop off a few shots as you're running toward something but certainly not running about with pockets full of ammo blowing stuff away.
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SephirothX at 11/05/2008 13:26
CliffyB.. Epic Games needs to give you a gag order desperately.

Plus he needs to shut up and start learning how to write a good story.
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delriego at 11/05/2008 13:28
what an asshole
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CelicaCrazed at 11/05/2008 13:28
Did anyone other than me feel some sapphic tension between Faith and the chick that provides the tutorials??

Also, the game is using the Unreal 3 engine. No wonder Cliffy B is confused ^_^
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Corak at 11/05/2008 13:48
Uh oh a game with very little weapon use, time to drink some haterade. Eh whatever the comment doesn't surprise me coming from him. Hmm no guns? Me no like game with no guns and grizzled space marines.
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Milkman519 at 11/05/2008 13:49
...You guys are really stupid...He's not saying "ARRGGHH THIS GAME NEEDS GUNS!! BAAAHHHH!!!" He's saying that he would like to see what the gunplay is like. What's wrong with that? And to all you guys saying "OMG CLIFFY B IS SO STUPID! GUNS ARE STUPID! I DON'T NEED GUNS IN MY GAMES! I'M SOPHISTICATED!" should really just shut the hell up because I'm sure 90% of the games you play have guns of some form in them.
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AClockWorkMelon at 11/05/2008 14:14
Jim, you used to be just about my favorite author on Destructoid. But you seem unnecessarily antagonistic towards just about everything lately. O.O;

What's wrong with him liking shooting games and wanting gunplay in Mirror's Edge?
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MotoRobo at 11/05/2008 14:16
He has been working on Gears of War 2 so he probably knows less than any of us about each of the games he mentioned. Didn't he want called "Cliffy B" before?
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TrailerParkJesus at 11/05/2008 14:18
I think what he's trying to say is the game is too bright and colorful.
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Agent Orange at 11/05/2008 14:25
@ falinter

I was going to say the same thing, that sure didn't take long.

Not that this has anything to do with what he said about this specifically but if he were to not talk ever again, I would be ecstatic.
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