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CoD made is obvious: if you want to sell copies of a game, water it down and market it to the white trash community of 'Merica
I really cant disagree with much, if anything, this guy said. And honestly BLOPS grew on me after a while and BLOPS 2 is looking mighty nice.
My issue has never really been that the Call of Duty games have been bad, I mostly just object to the fact that they're exploited with yearly releases.
My issue has never really been that the Call of Duty games have been bad, I mostly just object to the fact that they're exploited with yearly releases.
"he remains confident that former fans of Call of Duty may come back to the fold with Black Ops II."
How is that even be a topic of debate? Futuristic setting or otherwise, they WILL come back. I've no doubt about that.
How is that even be a topic of debate? Futuristic setting or otherwise, they WILL come back. I've no doubt about that.
I enjoyed the story in Blops, so I'm willing to give this one a go. The sandbox elements intrigue me.
I think this is a bunch of bullshit. I saw the E3 conference part of this and it looked god-awful. Scripted events with the only gameplay being standing in one place from a vantage point then seeing enemies through the walls, shooting them THROUGH THE WALLS and no risk at all.
What kind of 'gameplay' is that? Hooking a duck at a fair is more challenging.
What kind of 'gameplay' is that? Hooking a duck at a fair is more challenging.
If all the "leaked" stuff about the 10 point allocation system in multiplayer is true, I'm very interested. It's a fresh take on the whole class building thing that will allow for some fun and wacky builds.
"...popularity and installment frequency has led to a marked souring of opinions."
It thoroughly entertains me that A) a lot of a popular thing, or B) a popular thing that there's a lot of, will inevitably lead to a "souring of opinions."
Fucking hipster gamers.
It thoroughly entertains me that A) a lot of a popular thing, or B) a popular thing that there's a lot of, will inevitably lead to a "souring of opinions."
Fucking hipster gamers.
Treyarch will not disappoint. I am fully stuck in the Diablo 3 vortex right now, and will continue to be. But, I'm getting Blops2... because it is a Treyarch game. Those guys somehow seem able to work outside of Activision's evil and put forth full effort to support their games after launch.
Why worry about what your competition is doing when you can repackage the same game year after year and make millions?
The only real complaint and only real all-pervasive issue all of the recent CoD games have is lack of online support for their multiplayer after release. I know Treyarch did a few things to try and adjust things such as weapon balance in Black Ops, but this is really a major issue. Unless all the elements of the online are as balanced and bug-free as possible, then patching and adjusting is going to be inevitable and necessary.
Right now given the situation with the remnants of IW in regards to making future CoD games in question, it brings up the spectre of MW2, where the game pretty much got abandoned during the whole mess with West and Zampella, leaving huge and massive oversights in gameplay balance online, leaving it a massive clusterfuck to this day, and that's before we factor in hackers who can leap over 200 feet in the air and one-man newb-tube you with reckless abandon, ruining an otherwise solid and fun multiplayer.
This is really the question I want to have someone with access to Treyarch to ask them. "Are you going to diligent in supporting this game's online for several YEARS after launch rather than just a few months? Are you going to be committed to balance and squashing bugs?" Hopefully since they are using the future setting to shake things up a lot of this will hopefully be addressed from the outset, but a big problem with CoD is its longevity as Activision's desire to keep churning out yearly installments is killing the prior game's online as they basically abandon it for the next game. They should take a page out of Blizzard's book and set aside a team to keep working on the older games from time to time to keep interest in those games alive. At the very least it will show good will towards your customers.
Also lol at EA. Their games these days ring about as hollow as their business practices and business culture. I think what people like about Treyarch is their humility, which is sorely lacking in gaming right now.
Right now given the situation with the remnants of IW in regards to making future CoD games in question, it brings up the spectre of MW2, where the game pretty much got abandoned during the whole mess with West and Zampella, leaving huge and massive oversights in gameplay balance online, leaving it a massive clusterfuck to this day, and that's before we factor in hackers who can leap over 200 feet in the air and one-man newb-tube you with reckless abandon, ruining an otherwise solid and fun multiplayer.
This is really the question I want to have someone with access to Treyarch to ask them. "Are you going to diligent in supporting this game's online for several YEARS after launch rather than just a few months? Are you going to be committed to balance and squashing bugs?" Hopefully since they are using the future setting to shake things up a lot of this will hopefully be addressed from the outset, but a big problem with CoD is its longevity as Activision's desire to keep churning out yearly installments is killing the prior game's online as they basically abandon it for the next game. They should take a page out of Blizzard's book and set aside a team to keep working on the older games from time to time to keep interest in those games alive. At the very least it will show good will towards your customers.
Also lol at EA. Their games these days ring about as hollow as their business practices and business culture. I think what people like about Treyarch is their humility, which is sorely lacking in gaming right now.
My favorite part is where he backs up his claim of uniqueness by listing things that are the opposite of unique. Why even pretend? Just tell people what you do, they will still buy it.
Treyarch is easily the better Call of Duty developer, but the average person doesn't know that the series is developed by two companies in alternance.
If it wasn't of Infinity Ward's more recent titles in the franchise, I'm absolutely sure the backlash against Call of Duty would be much smaller. But hey, capitalism isn't that kind.
If it wasn't of Infinity Ward's more recent titles in the franchise, I'm absolutely sure the backlash against Call of Duty would be much smaller. But hey, capitalism isn't that kind.
The thing that Call of Duty does right is very simply ease of access. It's easy to get into a game, it's easy to play the game with friends. Voice chat works, the game is easy to understand (kill the other guy). Lag can rarely be an issue but the server migration is a pain in the butt that works, and overall, the game simply works.
EA on the other hand shipped a game where the voice chat on PS3 didn't initially work well, where grouping up and playing with friends was difficult... and then they got rid of the standard servers leaving gamers with player servers where they had to play odd modes and run the risk of getting booted.
I'll take something that "works" (or is VERY quickly fixed) rather than something that doesn't work.
Call of Duty isn't the best online game I've played... but it works. (and the campaigns are reliably fun and well done).
EA on the other hand shipped a game where the voice chat on PS3 didn't initially work well, where grouping up and playing with friends was difficult... and then they got rid of the standard servers leaving gamers with player servers where they had to play odd modes and run the risk of getting booted.
I'll take something that "works" (or is VERY quickly fixed) rather than something that doesn't work.
Call of Duty isn't the best online game I've played... but it works. (and the campaigns are reliably fun and well done).
Good on 'em. They're top of the pile, they could ignore everybody if they wanted to. It's lovely that even the makers of the biggest franchise around are still willing to listen to feedback and take in the landscape of the medium.
It may be a radical attitude to have amongst the ''hardcore'', but I sincerely wish Treyarch and Activision well with Black Ops 2 and hope they turn out another stellar product.
It may be a radical attitude to have amongst the ''hardcore'', but I sincerely wish Treyarch and Activision well with Black Ops 2 and hope they turn out another stellar product.
@AngryAvatar
How many? The majority? Or is it still a small subset of official servers? I haven't been playing because the game as a whole seemed like an immediate cash-in, with no support after launch. The party system and voice chat on the PS3 made me more frustrated than I think I have ever been at a video game.
How many? The majority? Or is it still a small subset of official servers? I haven't been playing because the game as a whole seemed like an immediate cash-in, with no support after launch. The party system and voice chat on the PS3 made me more frustrated than I think I have ever been at a video game.
@KymikoLoco I play on Xbox, but I never had a huge problem finding official servers. I just search for the letter "p" and pick one from the server browser. Or, search for "Karkand" and just pick the DICE/EA servers from the list.
You know what I want? Dedicated servers. You can go on and on about the strides you're taking in the campaign, but the reality is at the end of the day the people want a competent multiplayer, and there hasn't been one since CoD 4 (maybe even WaW). Get rid of the latency compensation bullshit that plagues MW3, and just bring dedicated servers to the fold. How much is it REALLY going to cost a company that regularly sells 20 million of these games a year?
Also, if you think I'm just being bitchy about the difference in quality between CoD 4 and MW3, just play both of them back to back. It's like night and day.
Also, if you think I'm just being bitchy about the difference in quality between CoD 4 and MW3, just play both of them back to back. It's like night and day.
I loved Zombies in Blops, I wonder what kinds of new modes will be in this one?
And getting new Zombies maps made paying $15 seem justifiable, because those things have tons of replay value.
And getting new Zombies maps made paying $15 seem justifiable, because those things have tons of replay value.
Dedicated servers would be a plus, but I can live without them. They could definitely afford it though, its not like Activision is lacking in funding with CoD and Blizzard games.
But will there be real classes, with real differences? For all the talk about classes in cod land that means loadouts. Not classes.
Give me much better graphics, real classes (kz, bf) and id give it a shot. I love trashing cod, but only because its so goddamn easy to do so.
How can any dev put that game out and be like yea we da best. When your competition is stomping you. Or switch genres. Call it an arena shooter.
Give me much better graphics, real classes (kz, bf) and id give it a shot. I love trashing cod, but only because its so goddamn easy to do so.
How can any dev put that game out and be like yea we da best. When your competition is stomping you. Or switch genres. Call it an arena shooter.
@Madrox23
If the leaked info is to be believed, there will still be customized loadouts. You'll have 10 "Allocation Points" and guns and perks cost different points, and you can use the unlocked perks/guns/etc. any way you want. So apparently you can do stuff like select nothing but perks and start with only a knife. Or have a bunch of weapons with no perks. Or anything in between. Pretty sweet (if true).
If the leaked info is to be believed, there will still be customized loadouts. You'll have 10 "Allocation Points" and guns and perks cost different points, and you can use the unlocked perks/guns/etc. any way you want. So apparently you can do stuff like select nothing but perks and start with only a knife. Or have a bunch of weapons with no perks. Or anything in between. Pretty sweet (if true).
"I don't think anybody's going to be mistaking Zombies with anything else"
WTF o_O Are they still doing zombies crap? And they're positioning themselves as unique somehow? Look around you guys, every other game has zombies.
WTF o_O Are they still doing zombies crap? And they're positioning themselves as unique somehow? Look around you guys, every other game has zombies.
"I'm eager to see whether Black Ops II can truly revitalize the series the way Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare did when the first-person shooter genre was in a real lull."
Doesn't matter if it does or not. You'll still give it a good score based on nothing other than it plays the way it should and then criticize other games and franchises for not changing anything.
Doesn't matter if it does or not. You'll still give it a good score based on nothing other than it plays the way it should and then criticize other games and franchises for not changing anything.
@2late2die just cause it has zombies in it doesn't mean it is the same as every other zombies game there is no way your going to confuse it for dead rising and zombies is a really popular game mode and they know it so they would be stupid to not put it in.
Wait people expect something new from acti/bliz? They only chage a few things within thei established games.
I have to give full credit to Treyarch for realizing that the CoD formula needs a shake-up, and then actually attempting (or at least, giving lip service to attempting) to shake it up by giving the player the ability to make choices within the single-player campaign that affect the story. I have no idea if it will work or be any good, but I dug the first Black Ops and will give the second one a shot.
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