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BioWare tells us when sex will be acceptable in games photo

I'm sure you all remember the ludicrous Mass Effect sex scandal, where FOX News flipped out over a sex scene that they hadn't even watched. BioWare could potentially rekindle those fires with Dragon Age: Origins, a game that features plenty of erotic chicanery. While checking out Dragon Age, I asked lead designer Mike Laidlaw when he thinks sex will be acceptable in videogames, and when mainstream media will stop throwing a hissy fit over it.

"Well I think what we're seeing is an evolution of the age of gamer, the mainstream kind of impact that games are having, and we're still battling the last of the perception that games are for kids," he explains. "So if games are for kids and sex is not for kids, why is sex in games? To my mind, the hurdle to cross is to say, 'You know, games are not for kids.' I'm not a kid, I probably burn a good three hours a night playing games, married, comfortably happy, definitely not a child.

"Ultimately, news anchors, people like that who are coming in who are gamers themselves can say 'No no no, it's a wide ranging spectrum, just like there are movies for children and movies for adults, there can be games for adults too,' ... and as soon as they realize that we're being responsible, and that the medium is not just some childish thing, they're gonna stop having their hissy fits.

"Will we see more of [sex in games]? I hope so, I really do. I mean, it's not a mandatory part of any experience, but is it something we should shy away from? I don't think so, it's part of the human experience, so why not? Does a game have to be about sex? No. Can it be in there? Sure. Why not?"

Western society is very immature when it comes to sex. The way people reacted on FOX News was childish, with grown adults acting how a schoolkid acts when he hears someone say "boob" in class. I'm not sure the furor over sexual activity in games will ever quite disappear until the general public actually grows up and comes to accept that sex happens whether they like it or not.








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Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:24
Super Drybones
It's basically "Show all the blood and beheading you want, but nipples are evil and must be concealed..........perhaps by someone's disbodied head"
Draconianviper's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:31
Draconianviper
FOX news...such a joke.

*dips finger into Dragon Age and tastes*

Needs more sex.
RestingSound's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:33
RestingSound
I think I'm the only one who ever played it, but I'm surprised there wasn't a scandal over The Godfather II and it's frequent topless women (nipples included). Maybe the world is growing up a little. Or maybe the original IP the game is based off of overshadows the threat of a couple digital nipples.
Infinite Combo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:35
Infinite Combo
"Back that ass up!," was what came to mind when I saw the header image.
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:36
Phantom Spaceman
backdoor action confirmed?
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:42
Chris Carter
I miss the days when Bioware would earn it's cash based simply off the fact that they made amazing games, not crazy PR campaigns like "SEX! BLOOD! BUY!"

I can't blame them (EA) for wanting more money, and I will buy it anyways because it is Bioware, but I don't know, I haven't felt the appeal of the sensationalist ad campaign for this game yet.
sexycommando's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:43
sexycommando
Movies have sex.
TV shows have sex.
Books have sex.
Magazines have sex.
Why not video games?

Like the man said, the only people who would oppose sex in video games are people who still view video games as something that only children enjoy. My guess is, that will change when the majority of adult game buyers stop buying game consoles for their kids and starts buying for themselves.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:44
TheDreadHawk
I definitely like his stance on the whole sex issue. It just makes sense.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:49
Electrium
I hate American media. I always have, for the 18 years I've been alive. It makes me happier to just not read the news and not really know what's going on in the world...not because I want to be sheltered, not because I have more interesting things to do, not because I think our world is in a horrifying state...because the newscasters trying to tell me what to think about the world are fucking stupid beyond belief.

These people are paid to tell you only one side of the story, and that's not logical, realistic, or fair. Not that every story deserves to be told from multiple sides, but our country (by that I speak for Americans only) needs to stop thinking they know everything about anything because they saw a 30-60 second story on the news about it.

And Jesus, on the rare occasion I'm in a room with someone watching the news, I STILL hear things like "Today, Sarah Palin locked her keys in her car. What a dumbass, lolololololol!" We have better things to be concerning ourselves with.
NingaBulrog's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:51
NingaBulrog
I don't know how FOX News has the time to waste on boobs considering all the important, world-changing stories they're working on 'round the clock...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,547640,00.html

God, what will we ever do??
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:58
Zcdrike
To me, the question isn't when will sex be in games, but when will games have non-stereotypical/non-offensive gay characters. I'd love to believe that gamers are collectively mature enough to see/play/interact with characters that are gay without being hyper-effeminate cross-dressing monstrosities.
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:59
hermes
I don't know if that will ever going to happend... America has this double standard of sex/violence (it is ok to cut a chest in half with an axe, but if you show the tits next to the cut, you are in trouble) since way before games.

I mean, look at the movies... 9 1/2 Weeks was released on 1986 and Last Tango in Paris was released in 1972, when was the last time you saw an NC-17 rated movie in the theater? Yet everybody agrees that movies are not always for kids.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:03
Rockvillian
violence/sex/profanity/drugs... these do not make anything "adult" anyways. They're mainly used to sell games to people who think that playing games with that content makes them "adult".

If looking at butterflies was considered taboo and immoral, BioWare would be right on top of getting that in there too, cause honestly everything you can possibly imagine (and not want to imagine) is part of the human experience.
Yehat's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:07
Yehat
@Zcdrike

There have been some but they're very much in the minority or in the great realm of obscurity.

-Patrick Galloway from Undying though you only learn this from Clive Barker's commentary.
-Davin from Fallout 2.
-Edwin from Baldur's Gate 1 & 2.

And that's all I can think of gay male characters in video games that don't flash pink at every turn.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:25
GoldenGamerXero
As long as the video game is rated appropriately then yes what the hell is wrong with sex in video games. I dislike people who say "I won't be buying that game for my child!" when they shouldn't have been considering it in the first place.

@Zcdrike

That's just the problem with characters. If they're unintended then they're often just sterotypes. So if they suddendly insert gay characters to try to look "rebelious" they forget that the gay guy does not have to remind you he takes it up the arse every five seconds. Is it asking too much that we don't try to put gay characters in video games because that's all they become. The gay one.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:29
LsTr Of SmG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_characters_in_video_games
Yehat's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:30
Yehat
@GoldenGamerXero

This is very true since in reality the only actual difference between a straight person and a gay one is who he or she sleeps with.
Blacklash93's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 15:08
Blacklash93
The problem with western culture is that it teaches you to repress sexuality instead of to fucking deal with it. That's never a good thing...
Mayiplay's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 15:09
Mayiplay
Wait..."Games aren't meant for kids"? Either he was just trying to sound professional (or something) and failed, or he really just went a bit over the top. OR, maybe he meant that games aren't just for kids...? Either way, that's just strange to me...

@Yehat

Don't forget Tony from Earthbound! =D Or the recent "Gay Tony" from GTA, for that matter!
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 15:30
Excel-2011
Video game age ghetto?
Vertigo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 15:56
Vertigo
Western society is very immature when it comes to sex?

Are you familiar with the Japanese cultural sexual fetishization of little animated girls?

Let's be equal opportunity defenders here. :)
Chuzzle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 16:13
Chuzzle
@rockvillain,

Dunno.. seems to work just fine for movies, music and tv.
Vigilante8's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 16:21
Vigilante8
The video game industry is still young. If compared with our media cousins, the movie industry, we could say that the video game industry is in it's puberty phase... is just knowing that sex isn't only something on dirty mags or cursed websites on the net. Our industry will for sure grow and will face more controversy on that just as any other media has faced, and that's good for us!
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 16:26
Occams electric toothbrush
I look forward to the day that a gay character is portrayed as a well thought out, complex being. I also look forward to the day I can play a game where I beat hippies to death with my bare hands. Perhaps these two things will happen in the same game.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 17:56
Corak
I really hope what he says comes true
moose39's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 18:56
moose39
I don't see a problem with sex. It's how all of us are here. I don't see the issue with it being in games and why people flip out about it. I can only imagine the uproar when two gay people having sex make in it a game.
countingdown7's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 06:37
countingdown7
@Yehat

let's not forget bioware's own Juhani in kotor
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