Even though their recent statement of "we don't need violence" is just a complete fabrication due to Dragon Age's selling point being "buckets of blood", this is one of the only recent mediums that is pushing sex to the forefront, which is good news. Perhaps things like this will at least make sex on par with violence in the eyes of the public.

There was barely any sexing going on. And how did adding a sex scene make sense? Shouldn't Shepard be saving the galaxy instead of getting some hot ass? Anybody that actually bought the game for the sex scene needs a kick to the sack.

The guardian's tech podcast did a great feature on sex in games this week check it out http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/audio/2009/jun/30/tech-weekly-podcast-sex-games-margolis-blog

@Chronic: I think it was a really important and vital element to the story that did make a lot of sense, as it realistically showed that even tragic and epic events don't take place in a vacuum with people sculpted only for killing; relationships can still develop. Hell, they're probably more likely to develop. But I will agree: the sexual elements weren't and shouldn't have been a selling point.

If anything, the lack of sex in some games -doesn't- make sense. I always thought that was bizarre in something like Planescape: Torment, where featuring the thief character you could actually indulge in a certain level of foreplay, and I remember trying a LOT to see where else I could take that, and yet there was nothing beyond that on an intimacy level.

For me that was entirely against immersion. There was no, for lack of a better word, climax. The relationship between the MC and the thief just sort of fizzled out, as opposed to something like the later Persona games where it is implied without being explicit. For romantic relationships between two characters without consideration of intimacy really, that just seems ridiculous.

Granted I've probably read far too many eroge to comment like a normal person, but if I'm to really identify with a game character they need to have the same capacity for desires that I do, even if they don't act on them.

"I thought the sexual element was skillfully handled and executed in a way that nobody but an utter moron could find offensive. More videogames could stand to have sensible, mature sex scenes."

Granted it was what I'd consider PG-13 rated, but I was never able to shake the feeling that it was forced into the game and completely unnecessary. The characters and their personalities weren't developed enough to warrant it IMO and as long as you chose the blatantly obvious "this way to the banging" conversation lines, you were going to get it.

Once the "Paramour" achievement popped up, I could faintly hear a few hundred programmers all giggling that they wedged sex into a somewhat serious space opera while all seriousness associated with that scene got washed away and it became "National Lampoons: Bang a chick in space Effect".

The game was rated M, so I see no issue there.

As far as the story goes, the idea was you were very likely traveling to your death in the final conclusive battle with the Moogle....a mature adult would certainly be thinking about one last chance to "get some". It was also much less of a "sex scene" as it was a "love scene" and I honestly thought THAT (the "tender moment" bit of it) was a bit unecissary, but handled very well overall.

Okay, so I think I just published an empty message. Whoops.

Anyway - my wife had some women's fitness magazine a month or so ago that featured an advert that showed way more skin (the woman was wearing no clothes, but it was taken from an angle to the side so you couldn't see everything). in one shot than mass effect did. The magazine is sold in many stores and can be seen/browsed (even by kids - OMG!). There was no outrage in the press over this. It wasn't even rated M. I'd wager that the picture was completely unnecessary for the advert too. I personally don't have a problem with it (I was as surprised as my wife when she showed it to me though).

I get so tired of seeing the media up in arms about game content. I really wish people would start parenting their own kids and taking responsibility for what they and their children watch instead of expecting the government to protect them from things they don't like. For me the worst cases were the ones involving GTA or Oblivion, where they were up in arms over content that could be modded into the game. It's like going nuts over a VHS copy of "The Mummy" because someone found a way to record a porn clip onto the same tape.

Such a lame society we have when it comes to prudish morals...

Some sex scenes though are just there because thye developper simply could and don't add anything whatsoever to the game itself i.e. Any Rockstar game with sex.

Shitting is part of life too. Let's have more shitting in video games.

Oh and I sleep like 6 to ten hours a day so lets spend 30% of your wideo game tinme sleeping too!

Also in games I should be a crappy shot under pressure and unable to pilot a jet without training because that's how I am in real life.

Most serious injuries should be game ending or permanently deblilitating and they should carry over from game to game. Once I die in a game I should not be able to ever play any game again because in real life I only have one body and that's how game should work too!

These are all very important and great ideas!

We must get used to them as soon as possible because they are all present in real life. References to vaginal dryness are both witty and funny and they instantly prop up even the lamest of arguments.

Or people who want to see sex could download porn, watch cinemax or find a sex partner instead of having it shoe horned into sci-fi and fantasy games.

@ Discarded Couch Sandwich: It was actually about 4 months after the games release that Fox news picked up on their "Non-news".

Personally I think if you ask most people if they;ve ever read a book, seen a tv show or watched a movie where there was a sex scene which felt natural as part of the narative that would say yes... so if it can be excepted in all those other forms why not in games.... providing it's written well.

The fact that this needed to be said (and will needed to be said and repeated for plenty of more years) makes me want to vomit into open wounds.

Im OK,

"Paleolithic views of sex"? Why even pull psuedo anthropological bullshit out of your butt to try and make yourself sound progressive for wanting some titty in your games? The real problem here is that you have a 15 year old's view of sex as obtained from Cinemax and now you want that in games too and you think this somehow makes you sophisticated. I suspect people in the late farming part of the stone age fucked whenever and wherever they could far more than we do.

You mention me being supposedly retarded (more of that 15 year old sensibility thing I guess)as if using that word by itself makes things retarded. I'm pointing out why real life and gaming are two different things and how including things in games bacuse they exist in real life is boneheaded and misguided because games are not reality. I'm sorry you don't get sarcasm or understand counterarguments.

The "dry vagina" thing is just Jim's juvenile attempt at premption. It's assuming that people will attack your stupid views and asserting that they are no fun because they don't agree with your stupid views. It's psuedo-polulist tripe for 15 year old minds which is precisely why it appealed to you so directly. Jim knew that a lot of people would think his drivel was stupid and so he tried to lay a trap for them hoping it would stop some of them from mentioning that his drivel was stupid.

Your "lamest of the lame" chestnut is so much a cliche its not even a meme, nor is it a meaningful response to anything I said. in fact none of your crap here has been meaningful.

If you want titties in your games then fine but that's not mature or sopshiticated. It's just a clueless 15 year old wanting spank material who wishes to disguise his cravings as a yearning for art. You know it as well as I do. Movies put titties in to sell tickets, not to open new artistic vistas or add reality or humanity to things. Games is the same thing. Nudity in games just feeds some lonely prurient little part of yourself and makes games dumber and more awkward for mainstream people to enjoy as a result. Titties and sex will make games seem CREEPIER and more adolescent and anti-social to normal folks.

As for the last little bit of shit you thoughlessly squirted, are there little twerps like you and Jim out trying to get violence put in games? Do you even dislike violent games? Can you play the news? Are the sex scenes in Mass effect interactive? It doesn't really apply does it? So much for that stupid attempt at a parting argument.

hey does anyone know any good free sex games