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BioWare set to 'pump' Dragon Age engine for sequel photo

Dragon Age: Origins wasn't much of a looker, especially the console versions of the tech-handicapped RPG, but BioWare is doing the work required to make the next Dragon Age visually impressive, or "super hot" to be just a tad more specific.

"I can confirm that we're doing a lot of work on the Dragon Age engine," the studio's VP Greg Zeshuk told Joystiq in a recent conversation, "and doing a lot of stuff to pump it -- to make it visually super hot."

We're not exactly sure what that means, but if it has anything to do with not falling through monster bodies, getting stuck in pieces of the environment, or dealing with 20 frames-per-second during the game's oh-so-bloody conclusion, then well, we're totally all about having a "super hot" Dragon Age 2.

BioWare says Dragon Age 2 to look 'super hot' [Joystiq]








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Kefka's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 21:08
Kefka
I'm willing to bet that by the time it actually comes out, it won't be so super hot.
luigilogyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 21:22
luigilogyk
Well i'd imagine it would be difficult to carry your character over if go and switch up the engine. Not concerned after what they did with Mass effect 2.
Elzam's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 21:25
Elzam
Was DA Origins actually not that pretty on PS3/Xbox? I thought it was actually quite well-detailed for the art style and setting on the PC. I know Mass Effect 2 is dramatically graphically better for the PC than it is for the consoles, but I didn't know that Bioware made the DA PC more detailed than the console.

Or I could just have low standards.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 21:27
Drakengard
"We're not exactly sure what that means"

Well, at least it sounds productive. Let's hope they succeed with their "super hot" tweaking of the game engine as it was barely lukewarm, to put it nicely.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 21:33
Drakengard
@ Elzam

I'll admit the game didn't look terrible. Not spectacular, but not bad either. But things felt really slugglish. From the battles, to the menus, everything was chugging really bad.

And that's not even touching upon the AI base programming in which I found my party always running into objects, taking really odd and often the long route paths to enemies, sometimes getting stuck by using paths that appear to exist but are actually blocked off with invisible walls. The targeting system was rubbish too.

Pretty poor results overall. Story was quite good. Voice acting was enjoyable. Graphics were nice, but in action the whole system was pretty poor. Final Fantasy XII on the PS2 with a similar battle system did a better job.

Destructoid gave the game, I think, a 7.5/10 and it earned that score.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 22:11
Camiwaits
All the footage i've seen of the game on tv, looked really poor.
Cyril's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 22:20
Cyril
I don't think it looked too bad on consoles, just extremely bland. But I did have an extremely difficult time playing during the action-heavy parts of the finale due to severe FPS drop.
Grandmas Boy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:21
Grandmas Boy
If it looks like ME2 then I'm okay with it
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:47
Chris Carter
Best game I played all of last year.
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:50
Vedicardi2
I really have no idea why they aren't just using the Mass Effect Engine.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 23:55
timtheterrible
I remember starting as a common elf, staring at the pile of logs which must have been taken from The Goonies II on the NES, then thinking, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

Thank God she had personality, because she was sure as hell the ugliest girl at the dance that was 2009.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 00:40
Wedge
Eh? So they're making a sequel to this and ME 3 right now then? So much for my hopes of a new Jade Empire =/.
RTsharpshooter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 00:43
RTsharpshooter
Well, good on BioWare for making the effort to improve DA in that department.
And glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing framerate issues. I thought my new HDD was screwing up my PS3. *Phew*

Despite the rough edges, a very enjoyable RPG experience.
RedCricketChase's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 02:01
RedCricketChase
Think there's a c in Zeschuk. LeChuck.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 03:03
Vanilla Gorilla
So I just deleted my post because it was very ranty and not very constructive, so I'll just condense it to this: Dragon Age was the game that made me realize I really can't fucking understand why people think anything Bioware puts out is good. It boggles my mind, because with the exception of KotoR, I have never been able to enjoy myself more than "slightly" within the first 3 hours of a Bioware RPG. Bleh.

FFXII >>>>>>>> DA. At least they got the Gambit system right.
Fatalmuzza's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 03:51
Fatalmuzza
Lets hope the consoles are lead platform this time. There are too many liberties takes with bloated code on PC resulting in a lesser result on all platforms. Push, optimise, stramline and get a game on par on all platforms. We already see ME2 on 360 being on par to PC.
puppy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 04:43
puppy
@Vanilla Gorilla.

Maybe you're more of a JRPG guy. No reason to hate Bioware for it. Unless you just wanna play a shit load of FMVs with no role playing whatsoever.
DarQraven's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 07:09
DarQraven
Oh, I see. Now that console gamers get the gimped experience, multiplatforming is suddenly a problem, yet when we PC gamers have received the short end of the stick for years we should just shut up and get a console already?

DA on PC was a flawless experience, and considering the input- and resource limitations on consoles, I think Bioware did an excellent job of making the game available on consoles. Sure, the graphics weren't top of the line, even on PC, but they were good enough to keep me interested and, most importantly, still be able to render the masses of enemies smoothly.

By no means do I have a flashy system, but I was able to play the entire game on 1680x1050, all highest with FPS constantly above 40.

So, sorry, disappointed console gamers, but I have no sympathy. DA is a typical PC experience and it was made to make full use of that platform. If you want the fullest out of it, play it on the system it was made for.
LazyAza's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 08:36
LazyAza
Yeah my PC is top of the line, runs Crysis on max flawlessly but DA lagged alot in the bigger more densely packed areas and higher enemy count fights. Even crashed quite a few times.

I really hope they do give the engine a massive overhaul in future content because after starting ME2 its very clear the same team of people weren't working on both games or at least one got alot more resources put in to it.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 09:32
HEL105
@Vanilla Gorilla
I agree that FFXII absolutely nailed the battle system that DA attempted, and it may have been the better game (I absolutely loved FFXII). But DA was still extremely good. If the sequel is as much of an improvement as ME2, we're in for a treat.

It's weird, because everyone loved KOTOR, but those are the only recent Bioware games that I haven't played. They're a wonderful developer, maybe you just don't "get it".
Psychoholic420's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 10:10
Psychoholic420
Hope they put as much work into this as they did with ME2
I Use Valtrex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 18:53
I Use Valtrex
I am not asking to be flamed but I would just like to say:

I enjoyed KOTOR and Jade Empire more than I enjoyed Mass Effect and DA: Origins. Not that the latter two are bad.

I also like JRPGs and repeated viewings of the Bleach.
Robot Viking's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 20:30
Robot Viking
I played it on PS3. Is it the best looking game I'ver ever seen? No. Is it by any means bad looking? Not at all. Bring on DA2.
David White's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 21:58
David White
I found the graphics on Xbox 360 to be very good. Don't listen to people's gripes. It's a solid RPG and looks pretty. I have it on PC as well. Maxed out graphics only look a little better.
toruokada's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 22:27
toruokada
I wonder if they'll fix the ridiculously fluxuating difficulty, the bad graphics, the horrible animation, the bad AI, and the fqact that every Bioware game is the same? Hmmm
Elijah Fly's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/01/2010 15:13
Elijah Fly
while dragon age origins didn't look outright bad, it definitely looked about as good as the original Mass Effect.
Anna Hannah's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2011 03:15
Anna Hannah
while dragon age origins didn't look outright bad, it definitely looked about as good as the original Mass Effect.
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