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THEY FORCED ME TO EITHER PLAY AS A WOMAN OR HAVE GAY SEX WITH ZEVRAN IN DRAGON AGE FOR AN ACHIEVEMENT.
The absolute pinnacle of evil.
The absolute pinnacle of evil.
That's right. Bioware going down the tubes should not be blamed on a single low level employee. We can blame entire groups of people like EA and Bioware Lead Designers!
Yeah, I'm sorry, but I always felt left out of the romantic storylines of the BioWare games that didn't have any for me. People should be praising this woman for trying to make the games more inclusive.
I still don't understand WHAT she did. Or are reddits views on the gaming industry just that fucked up?
I blame reddit because that's where I saw this shit start, my first thought to seeing the Helper post was "Really? We're blaming game writers now?"
I blame reddit because that's where I saw this shit start, my first thought to seeing the Helper post was "Really? We're blaming game writers now?"
Dragon Age 1: One of the best RPG stories in modern gaming
Dragon Age 2: Shell of a game where the male protagonist can sleep with more men then women.
The difference: Jennifer Hepler.
These facts cannot be disputed. Also she turned Anders into a sissy emo puss.
Dragon Age 2: Shell of a game where the male protagonist can sleep with more men then women.
The difference: Jennifer Hepler.
These facts cannot be disputed. Also she turned Anders into a sissy emo puss.
@Startyde
Yes because it can't possibly be due to the game being rushed to fuck by EA. I mean it's all the fault of one person. Pull your head out of your ass.
Yes because it can't possibly be due to the game being rushed to fuck by EA. I mean it's all the fault of one person. Pull your head out of your ass.
I think the nexr mass effect game should have an option to make the main character an anthropomorphic zebra person as well as male.
And he can do bigger jumps and stuff.
And he can do bigger jumps and stuff.
That header image is how my ME3 better end.
on topic people on internet are stupid they jump first before looking
on topic people on internet are stupid they jump first before looking
Whilst she has had it pretty rough, Bioware and Hepler aren't exactly innocent victims. It seems that both parties are assholes.
That is one fine-ass female Turian. Oh wait shit that's Garrus. What do I do with my boner now, guys? Do I masturbate it or think about baseball?
I really don't see the problem with options like this in a role playing game. If you want male shepherd to hook up with Garrus that's your Mass Effect story. (Kinda what Mass Effect's point is) Also I think this Woman needs to hire Jay and Silent Bob to hunt down and kick there ass!
Yeah, its interesting how crazy this section of their fanbase is. Why anyone would go so far as to concoct completely false things about one team member is a bit beyond me.
I dislike the Story Mode concept in ME3, but I don't think it even had something to do with her as her concept was to skip battles entirely and Story Mode really just lets you God Mode through battles. I still object to both ideas, but she didn't implement the one that exists. I really blame that sort of shit on EA and the heads of Bioware, not a writer.
If you want to complain about the decline of Bioware, place the blame in EA, who is forcing them to crank out a new RPG every year. Even with different teams, those teams still run on a two year cycle and you just can't get a really great RPG out of two years of development. Mass Effect was planned out as a trilogy, so that one has an excuse, but DA2 wasn't planned out as meticulously and it shows.
I dislike the Story Mode concept in ME3, but I don't think it even had something to do with her as her concept was to skip battles entirely and Story Mode really just lets you God Mode through battles. I still object to both ideas, but she didn't implement the one that exists. I really blame that sort of shit on EA and the heads of Bioware, not a writer.
If you want to complain about the decline of Bioware, place the blame in EA, who is forcing them to crank out a new RPG every year. Even with different teams, those teams still run on a two year cycle and you just can't get a really great RPG out of two years of development. Mass Effect was planned out as a trilogy, so that one has an excuse, but DA2 wasn't planned out as meticulously and it shows.
Assuming you are 100% correct, Startyde, and this lady had secret meetings with the designers about how the series was too heterosexual and needed to be generally crappier, that justifies the way she has been treated how?
As long as she keeps away from Mass Effect I'm fine, besides when you work in game development and state that you don't play or like to play video games what can you expect? I'm sure trolls will flame you happily, just imagine Christopher Nolan stating he doesn't watch films or that Stephen King doesn't read books.
@DuckedUpOnQuack
You run the risk of sustaining a boner by thinking of baseball players, baseball bats, and men patting other men in the gluteus maximus.
Your call dude.
You run the risk of sustaining a boner by thinking of baseball players, baseball bats, and men patting other men in the gluteus maximus.
Your call dude.
WTF is with all thi hate for bioware!?! Call me a fanboy if u want but what ha bioware done to deserve this!?! Bioware are my favourite develepor and I love all their games so I don't know what to make of all this
@ startyde - so in your opinion DA2's value as a game rests solely on the amount of female NPCs you can CHOOSE to bed down? Otherwise, you could have easily said "Dragon Age 2: Shell of a game", right? You can go through the entire game and not sim-fuck a single person, male or otherwise... So what gives?
Regardless of whether the facts can be disputed, more importantly, do they even matter?
Regardless of whether the facts can be disputed, more importantly, do they even matter?
Maybe she should stop shooting her mouth off online if she doesn't want her delicate feelings to be hurt.
I will say that it is nice to see a company actually sticking by an employee rather than telling them to suck it up or throwing them to the wolves. The Mass Effect series is having no problems narratively speaking, so I don't even really understand the force behind this hate-mongering.
I look forward to seeing Shepard 'docking' his 'ship' once more in the highly anticipated sequel, Mass Effect 3: This Time It's REALLY Gay
That's so funny because over half of people working in the gaming industry never played a game other than poker or chess ( love chess btw).
They should have apoligised for some off her comments aswell i think. The people who did the personal attacks are douches. But i have to agree that she is not a very good writer at all.. PS: Dragon age 2 was terrible, dont buy it,your money will be wasted!
@Startyde: That would imply that she didn't work on Dragon Age: Origins. As I understand it, she did. Additionally, that would also imply she was the only writer for DA2 and that nobody was allowed to approve or disapprove her ideas before incorporating them in the game. This seems farfetched.
@Knarf Black1:
No one deserves to be bullied. But it's also not productive to pretend that games based so heavily on writing don't suffer when new writters come on and change an established cannon drasticaly, which I imagine, was the seed behind this hate movement.
@youngskeletor:
My (albeit brash) point was the she tends to reply on the Bioware forums to fan criticism directly (which is something to be admired) but then tends to show little concern for cannon, or pre-established stories or persona, annoying fans. I speak only of DA mind you. The personality shift of Anders, and subsequent awful ending of DA2, while meaningless to any who don't care, was a huge FU to many fans. The fact that the romance choices didnt change depending on gender (4 male, 2 female for both) also showed just a general sense of laziness, but again, a decision that was justified on forums. I don't believe she's even involved with ME3 (which will still be awful if the arrival DLC was any indication).
No one deserves to be bullied. But it's also not productive to pretend that games based so heavily on writing don't suffer when new writters come on and change an established cannon drasticaly, which I imagine, was the seed behind this hate movement.
@youngskeletor:
My (albeit brash) point was the she tends to reply on the Bioware forums to fan criticism directly (which is something to be admired) but then tends to show little concern for cannon, or pre-established stories or persona, annoying fans. I speak only of DA mind you. The personality shift of Anders, and subsequent awful ending of DA2, while meaningless to any who don't care, was a huge FU to many fans. The fact that the romance choices didnt change depending on gender (4 male, 2 female for both) also showed just a general sense of laziness, but again, a decision that was justified on forums. I don't believe she's even involved with ME3 (which will still be awful if the arrival DLC was any indication).
Ever since DA2 came out, this thing was brewing. Bioware kind of started it when they started banning people for speaking ill of DA2 (and subsequently breaking their game). Gaider went through his stage of torment but quickly earned a pass by coming out and saying DA2 was pretty flawed. Hepler got hers not only from the her quotes (both actual and made up) but the sections of the game she claimed as hers. I do not know when her ill fated novel or how she got the job at Bioware entered the mix, but the internet (and many banned players) had focused in on its target. Add her defending the writing and her twitter outburst, and people ran with it. It is horrible what happened to her, that both sides got out of hand, but people do have a legitimate claim about her writing.
@El Conrado
I was just thinking mainly of baseball bats actually. Then again, they're pretty long and hard. Maybe I should just think of babies. That does the trick nearly 60% of the time!
I was just thinking mainly of baseball bats actually. Then again, they're pretty long and hard. Maybe I should just think of babies. That does the trick nearly 60% of the time!
She doesn't have to worry, the internet will forget she even exsisted in a week. She was wwebsiting when you was a sperm in yur daddy's balls. If you don't get that, then my point is proven
I generally don't like her writing, but people going batshit crazy at her is unacceptable.
If people want to criticize her writing, ok then. Just do it as a civilized human being with good, well thought out points and not as a complete asshole.
In terms of DA2, the story was pretty horrible by any medias standard. At the same time, there was a whole development team working on it. At some point, someone in this pretty large team should have brought up the quality of the story in what was meant to be a very story focused game that's a sequel to a well loved story focused game.
So I'd hardly blame one individual.
I wish Bioware toned down on the whole romance options in all their games.
In my few playthroughs of ME2, I've somehow ended up sleeping with Jack and Miranda. Not because I wanted to, but simply because I kept talking to them because in most other RPGs, I like to find out as much about characters and kept selecting dialogue options that kept the conversation going.
Plus the likes of Tali suddenly becoming a bumpling schoolgirl in 2 because she now had a crush on me was annoying. Then most of Garrus lines seemed to be for Fem Shep for romance options with Male Shep stuck with hearing about calibrations over and over.
Next thing you know I'll be trying to avoid talking to Joker too much to avoid sleeping with him.
It's gotten a bit out of hand. And I don't know why they do it. It feels forced and just cheap tbh.
If people want to criticize her writing, ok then. Just do it as a civilized human being with good, well thought out points and not as a complete asshole.
In terms of DA2, the story was pretty horrible by any medias standard. At the same time, there was a whole development team working on it. At some point, someone in this pretty large team should have brought up the quality of the story in what was meant to be a very story focused game that's a sequel to a well loved story focused game.
So I'd hardly blame one individual.
I wish Bioware toned down on the whole romance options in all their games.
In my few playthroughs of ME2, I've somehow ended up sleeping with Jack and Miranda. Not because I wanted to, but simply because I kept talking to them because in most other RPGs, I like to find out as much about characters and kept selecting dialogue options that kept the conversation going.
Plus the likes of Tali suddenly becoming a bumpling schoolgirl in 2 because she now had a crush on me was annoying. Then most of Garrus lines seemed to be for Fem Shep for romance options with Male Shep stuck with hearing about calibrations over and over.
Next thing you know I'll be trying to avoid talking to Joker too much to avoid sleeping with him.
It's gotten a bit out of hand. And I don't know why they do it. It feels forced and just cheap tbh.
"It is awful that a few people have decided to make her a target for hate and threats"
Problem is that it isn't just a few, nor has this been the first time it's happened. The fact that it's a far stretching concern whenever a BioWare game gets released these days seems to be a problem.. Between hating her writing and raging about being given homosexual choices, the vocal sect of BioWare's fans are pretty ridiculous.
"and singling her out for projects to which she has not contributed (i.e., Jennifer is not even a part of the Mass Effect writing team)."
And see, even BioWare is willing to point out that these people have no fucking clue to what they're talking about, because she isn't even on the games writing team. So they just assume she is, because she has been before with their other games, and fly off the handle. Actually knowing what your talking about, despite having the internet at your finger tips just about 100% of your day, doesn't seem to actually exist at all any more. People were more informed when they actually had to dig to look things up.
@Tarvu
It really isn't Mass Effect fans, its BioWare fans. Period. Dragon Age's writing got this level of pissed off rage from them too (as well as gamers in general, but it was BioWare fans who took it to the next level). I'm horribly surprised they haven't done it for TOR aside from some news sources deciding that picking to be darkside with a single character, to a single characters companion, means BioWare hates the entire female gender.
Problem is that it isn't just a few, nor has this been the first time it's happened. The fact that it's a far stretching concern whenever a BioWare game gets released these days seems to be a problem.. Between hating her writing and raging about being given homosexual choices, the vocal sect of BioWare's fans are pretty ridiculous.
"and singling her out for projects to which she has not contributed (i.e., Jennifer is not even a part of the Mass Effect writing team)."
And see, even BioWare is willing to point out that these people have no fucking clue to what they're talking about, because she isn't even on the games writing team. So they just assume she is, because she has been before with their other games, and fly off the handle. Actually knowing what your talking about, despite having the internet at your finger tips just about 100% of your day, doesn't seem to actually exist at all any more. People were more informed when they actually had to dig to look things up.
@Tarvu
It really isn't Mass Effect fans, its BioWare fans. Period. Dragon Age's writing got this level of pissed off rage from them too (as well as gamers in general, but it was BioWare fans who took it to the next level). I'm horribly surprised they haven't done it for TOR aside from some news sources deciding that picking to be darkside with a single character, to a single characters companion, means BioWare hates the entire female gender.
I've never understood why people would go this far over a video game.
Someone needs to take away their games.
Someone needs to take away their games.
You shouldn't group everyone that dislikes Hepler together Jim, I find her to be an awful writer and think that Bioware would be better off without her. However, I dont endorse this public humiliation.
Most of the "ignorance" you try to cite is just a joke. People understand she works primarily on Dragon Age. She's disliked because she looks and dresses like a teenager who spends a bit too much time watching Japanese cartoons, has said how much she likes Twilight, and says she hates playing video games, only to later say "They're just jealous because I work in the video games industry and i'm a guuuuuurl." None of that is enough of a reason to attack someone with words out of pure rage. Most of it was done out of making her mad for laughs. Thus the kind of photoshopped thread pictures and other anger about Mass Effect involving her. Just classic internet trolling. So if anyone is ignorant and spouting bullshit, it's you Jimmyboy.
@GlowBear
You're the kind of person that we hate.
People have been giving valid complaints and Helper is hiding behind the "Theyre just sexist" argument. But yeah, Bioware can call them fuckwads and only prove the fact that they're unprofessional; they might even gain respect from idiots like you.
You're the kind of person that we hate.
People have been giving valid complaints and Helper is hiding behind the "Theyre just sexist" argument. But yeah, Bioware can call them fuckwads and only prove the fact that they're unprofessional; they might even gain respect from idiots like you.
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