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BioWare heads aren't too keen on Final Fantasy XIII photo

Here's a factoid: I was up to my neck in Final Fantasy XII when Dragon Age: Origins came out.* The culture shock of traveling from Ivalice to Ferelden was like jumping into a frozen lake. It's not surprising then, that Drs. Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk, CEO and vie-president of BioWare, don't seem particularly stoked about Square Enix' most recent behemoth.

"I've been reading some reviews [of Final Fantasy XIII]," Muzyka said. "That may be on the bottom of my list right now. It's kind of a question mark. It would have been right up there before I read about it, but some of this other stuff is probably more pressing."

And Zeschuk chimed in with his own reservations about the game's development time: "It's really interesting. They're trying to do something different, which is admirable, but it's hard. They also had a very long development cycle. They may have been aiming at a real interesting spot at one point, but then too much time goes by. Not only are there a lot of games, but they are coming out fast."

I don't want to suggest that the Good Doctors are being malicious or dishonest; but, in terms of how role-playing fans will spend their time and money this month, I doubt Dragon Age: Awakenings really appreciates the stiff competition from Final Fantasy XIII.

For what it's worth, what I've been reading about Final Fantasy XIII makes me want to play it (Jim's rather scathing review notwithstanding). But Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk make some of the most popular and acclaimed videogames of all time, and I'm probably going to eat a ham sandwich for dinner, so you pick whose advice to take. And I haven't even trashed any of my competitors in, like, the past half hour.

BioWare Head: FF XIII "On the Bottom Of My List" [GameInformer]

*And now I have the good fortune of being in the middle of both!








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Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:04
Monodi
Ok why does that chick look like a guy?
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:04
RIMoonlight
inb4sonyfanboysshitonmasseffect2andbiowareanddeclareffxiiibestgameever
BerserkerX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:07
BerserkerX
haha I've played mass effect and dragon age those games were boring as shit I do like jrpgs though but FF13 does suck but thats because square is fucking stupid ah whatever im done bitching about it ill just go back to playing star ocean some good old fashion jrpg.
plufim's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:09
plufim
Jesus fucking christ, I wish "inb4 shitstorm" and "oh goody popcorn time" was a bannable offence. It fucks up the first few pages of any comment thread on any story even remotely controversial, and it only encourages fan rage.
tuoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:12
tuoman
ffxiii is worth playing just for the lesbian scene
Revuhlooshun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:16
Revuhlooshun
Nothing personal, but I don't want to hear RPG criticisms from the people behind Mass Effect 1 and it's stupid ass bunkers. Say what you will about FFXIII, at least it's not repetitive as fuck in every way imaginable, from missions to armor to weapons to environments. Every god damn Bioware game has like 3 sets of armor (with the exclusion of Dragon Age, which had a lot of absolutely shit armor and 2 or 3 sets of anything decent).

I couldnt even finish the Insanity Run on ME2 because I got so bored doing the same run-and-gun type missions over and over.
SleepyInsomniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:17
SleepyInsomniac
@tuoman: Lesbian scene? I think what I think you're thinking about hardly qualifies as one.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:17
Dan CiTi
eh Dragon Age and FFXIII are about equally as fun(Dragon Age is a bit better, I just hate the battle system in DA). Buuuuut Mass Effect 2 is way better than both IMO.
Herr Forehead's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:19
Herr Forehead
@Monodi
It is implied that she is a lesbian.
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:19
Tristero
If you're open minded and you want good entertainment, I think you can enjoy both Mass Effect 2 and Final Fantasy XIII. I got both games for my birthday and they both exceeded my expectations even though they're radically different from each other.

Mass Effect 2 is obviously a more revolutionary game, but I don't get the people who are up in arms about linearity in FF. I"m sure they're the same people who loved Uncharted 2, which honestly is probably even more linear than FFXIII. I don't really have a point, except that I love videogames.
chronomitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:22
chronomitch
Congratulations. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Western RPG != Japanese RPG. There's a reason we denote the latter as JRPG. It doesn't surprise me that fans of western RPGs might not like JRPGs.

I find it really funny how everyone expects to like every AAA game now, regardless of the genre. How absurd. If you don't like JRPGs, you're not going to like FF XIII, so just move along and find something more suitable to your tastes.
kapshhh's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:25
kapshhh
Instead of just reading about it, why doesn't he just try and play it.
Santiago's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:27
Santiago
I like RPG's made by BioWare and Square Enix. WAT DO
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:27
Ubersuntzu
@Monodi

As has already been said, it's inferred that she's gay.

Furthermore, that chick doesn't look like a guy. She only looks like a guy relative to a genre filled with guys that look like chicks.
kylamity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:29
kylamity
I wish a great Kraken would rise from the depths and CONSUME YOU ALL!!!
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:29
Monodi
@Ubersuntzu

Dammit, why is Square so ambiguous about this?
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:42
Vanilla Gorilla
WRPG maker doesn't like JRPG maker. Not terribly surprising, considered they've vocally bashed JRPGs in the past.
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:44
Jonathan Ross
TRISTERO SIGHTING!
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:46
RIMoonlight
Say what you will, I fucking called it.
Pablo Contreras's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:49
Pablo Contreras
considering both WRPGS and JRPGS aren't really rpgs...

Well there's really nothing to say.
seventhevening's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:49
seventhevening
I loved bioware, but I really hated Dragon Age: Origins. I bought the collectors edition and felt cheated. I've never paid that much for such an unbalanced, unpolished piece of crap. Then Mass Effect 2 came out and it was Gears of War with awesome Dialog trees.

I officially don't care about bioware or their opinion on RPGs anymore. FFXIII isn't my favorite game in the world, but I feel I got what I paid for and wasn't lied to. That's more than I can say for the last two bioware games.
SpidaMahn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:51
SpidaMahn
RIMoonlight > This
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:00
Electrium
Sure would be nice if they could at least try to appreciate a difference in culture. DA:A probably won't even lose fans to FF13: most WRPG fans hate JRPGs (and vice versa).

Whatever, it's not like I'm surprised.
SpidaMahn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:00
SpidaMahn
ME2 is far better than linear painfully-boring "Select action -> watch animation" games.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:01
Dv8thwonder
WTF @ that pic!
Endless Androgeny confirmed.
Blindfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:02
Blindfire
That was certainly need to know information. Now I will never play Final Fantasy XIII because of something some guy said about it. Can you imagine a world in which you had to actually form opinions of your own, separate from others, based on your own experiences and preferences? I shudder at the thought of such an existence, where other people's opinions are not more important to me than my own.
Pablo Contreras's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:05
Pablo Contreras
What can you do Blindfire.

What can yaaaaaa do.

It's too bad sheeps make the majority of this human species.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:06
Dv8thwonder
The good doctors don't have the patience for JRpg's.
HeilHiggie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:07
HeilHiggie
I am surprised that Muzyka and Zeschuk would comment on a game they haven't played yet. Whatever. Mass Effect 3, please.
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:09
Ubersuntzu
@Monodi

Wacky Japanese shenanigans? :/
Kyogissun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:16
Kyogissun
Meh, each game has it's perk:
-Dragon Age has it's massive amount of roleplaying freedom and no FINITE definition of good/evil decisions, with a deep character customization system and (Strictly on the PC version) a strategic combat system
-Mass Effect 2 (Sorry, the first one sucked with it's FIVE HOUR LONG INTRO and really should only be drudged through one time at best) is a great third person shooter with the kind of freedom to take the story where you want as it should have
-Final Fantasy is more of an experiment, seeing how JRPG's look stripped down of bells and whistles like an alchemy system or character quests or shit like that (Sans the endgame of course) with MINDBLOWINGLY AMAZING GRAPHICS and not much else.

Each one has their perks and each has their flaws. Which has the least? That's up to everyone to decide on their own.
Herr Forehead's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:17
Herr Forehead
After thought, FFXIII is the ballsiest of all of the Final Fantasy games.

Why?
For one, it has very linear storytelling and game play, while other games coming out this generation market the opposite, choice. They took what was established in the previous game (FFXII) and threw it out the window. They abandon key "final fantasy elements" that would ultimately piss off some of their fan base (granted, there is still much that hasn't changed).

The fal'Cie are depicted as gods, gods that Cid and the Calvary are trying to destroy to "liberate Cocoon"; this could be seen as an atheistic plot, similar to other Shin Megami Tensei games. The game also features a lesbian couple and a teenager with a overzealous blood-lust. There are a lot of underlying tones to look into in this game, more than I mentioned for sure.
I wasn't expecting it to be so risky, but I find it to be refreshing, and non-typical.
LazyAza's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:31
LazyAza
Why cant people just play and enjoy games without getting in to big arguments and senseless needs to compare everything. Oh wait I forgot I was on the internet. lol
MuddBstrd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:37
MuddBstrd
@LazyAza: Right there with ya, buddy.

I'm rather disappointed the BioWare guys felt the need to do that. What happened to the days when people in the industry praised each other, even when the market was extremely competitive? This is just really unprofessional of them in my opinion, and makes me respect them, and BioWare, a lot less.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:37
Jack Maverick
I actually find Fang more attractive than the other girls. Probably because she looks like a woman and not a 13-year-old girl, but that's me so what do I know.

Anyway, they are right to a point. FFXIII does do things very differently from other games in the series, making it feel almost like another game completely if not for the existence of chocobos and a Cid character. Yet at the same time, I admire the differences, even if it wasn't as great as it could have been, it felt unique.

It's pretty similar to the way I felt what Mirror's Edge did for the FPS genre.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:39
Monodi
@LazyAza

Hopefully you don't get my comment wrong. I like some Final Fantasy games, but I never understood the deal about androgenousity.
Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:46
Oishidesu
Argghhh!
I'm finally gonna end this FFXIII>Mass Effect 2>Dragon Age or whatever order they are in! Pokemon>FFXIII+Mass Effect 1 & 2+Dragon Age
I bet I'm Jim Sterling's favorite Dtoider now!
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 00:46
Thulsa Dooom
Christ people, like Japanese developers have never commented on a Western game... Lighten the fuck up, quit acting like little girls whose tea party got spoiled, and enjoy what you play. They were probably ASKED their OPINION about FF13. Kind of makes sense to ask those guys the question and LO AND BEHOLD THEY GAVE THEIR OPINION. *mind blown*
mrcecilman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:03
mrcecilman
yes @ Thulsa Dooom

you people are acting like they shat on ffxiii. they simply stated that, according to reviews, there are better games out at the moment. chill the fuck out with the 'that was unprofessional' horseshit.

also, notwithstanding is a fantastic word. props.
karooo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:04
karooo
SE fucked up putting this on the 360, this game was not suited for the dvd box.
Exquisitor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:24
Exquisitor
A popular RPG company not liking a competing RPG game? SAY IT AIN'T SO?
agentarsenic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:27
agentarsenic
Man, it must suck that GameInformer has to do all the real journalism and all you have to do is "Dtoid" up the story a little bit to make it yours.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:28
Hasney
I do enjoy both WRPGs and JRPGs, but Dragon Age was the shit and FFXIII was the biggest dissapointment since I found out Santa wasn't real.

@karooo

lol, there's an article for people like you. PROTIP: The games media had nothing to do with how terrible it is.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:29
Dv8thwonder
FFIX was the last 'true' Final Fantasy.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:37
Chronic Logic
SquareEnixEidos are past their prime and now wallow in mediocricy. Any WRPG is infinitely better than the JRPG they produce now.
beastrn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 01:43
beastrn
Keep making those soulless, loveless, boring, unmemorable and accessible games Bioware - leave the real games to... well, Black Isle. And Trioka.
PanchoVillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 02:06
PanchoVillian
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE CRAP THEY STOLE FROM FFXII

Garrif = Turian (bird like people)
Banga = Drell(lizard people
Viera = Asari (Long living female only race)
Seeq = Krogan (Stupid race with lotsa health)
Nu Mou = Volus

COPYRIGHT MUCH BIOWARE!!!

-not serious
black ghost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 02:21
black ghost
I actually skipped Jim's review altogether, I think even if he had something progressive to say about the game it'd be blanketed in unnecessary snark and badmouth nerdrage. I don't have much interest in his negative attitude, I just want to hear about the fucking game. We get it, you're an internet personality, with an amazingly fortunate job. I pretty much could care less what he has to say lately, which is a shame since he's like every other post.

His smug picture doesn't help either, I see that grim expression, and keep on scrollin'
grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 02:23
grasslunatic
If they haven't actually played the game then they should probably shut up about it.
marsbitrona's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/17/2010 02:46
marsbitrona
I'm sure they were just asked in the interview whether or not they were playing Final Fantasy XIII. So, they said they weren't and they explained why honestly. You know, like what you're supposed to do in an interview. Little did they suspect Game Informer was going to make headlines out of it.
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