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After I found out that you HAD to play the multiplayer to get the most choices at the end I stopped playing. I popped in Skyward Sword and haven't looked back.
I'm sure they made the ending with the knowledge that it would be controversial.
But what better way to get free advertising than be controversial.
Rockstar sure loves it.
That being said I've never disliked something to the point where I felt it was up to the developers to remedy it. I just decide if I want to remain a fan or not.
But what better way to get free advertising than be controversial.
Rockstar sure loves it.
That being said I've never disliked something to the point where I felt it was up to the developers to remedy it. I just decide if I want to remain a fan or not.
@Allen
Not entirely true. A combination of diligent planet-scanning, prudent choices (WTF, choice matters in the ending!?!?), and what you did at the end of ME2 can get you enough resources to get the "best" ending too, no multiplayer needed. The multiplayer just lets you be a bit more lazy with your scanning, or cover up for some poor decisions.
Not entirely true. A combination of diligent planet-scanning, prudent choices (WTF, choice matters in the ending!?!?), and what you did at the end of ME2 can get you enough resources to get the "best" ending too, no multiplayer needed. The multiplayer just lets you be a bit more lazy with your scanning, or cover up for some poor decisions.
@Trist
I'm on my third playthrough now - you basically have to be *perfect* to get the highest caliber ending. As in, a paltry few too many Renegade options, or a few missed loyalty missions in ME2, and it's multiplayer time.
I'm on my third playthrough now - you basically have to be *perfect* to get the highest caliber ending. As in, a paltry few too many Renegade options, or a few missed loyalty missions in ME2, and it's multiplayer time.
So much hate for the endings... I'm holding off on buying, but I love 2. This was inevitable to some degree, however, considering how rabid the fanbase is about the ME universe.
Sorry guys, as the writer and creator of the franchise, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
Sorry guys, as the writer and creator of the franchise, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
He shouldn't be sorry about the endings.
Just Bioware's exploitative money-grubbing tactics, but he's made it clear they're not sorry about that.
In a way, i want to feel sorry for Bioware and yet I do like they're finally getting a shitstorm that they've earned.
Its a weird feeling because I liked the trilogy and was OK with the endings. I just don't like being told what's "icing on the cake" and what isn't by someone that doesn't know what that phrase means.
Just Bioware's exploitative money-grubbing tactics, but he's made it clear they're not sorry about that.
In a way, i want to feel sorry for Bioware and yet I do like they're finally getting a shitstorm that they've earned.
Its a weird feeling because I liked the trilogy and was OK with the endings. I just don't like being told what's "icing on the cake" and what isn't by someone that doesn't know what that phrase means.
Oh man here we go
I was sure after past week the Bioware crybabies would have run out of tears but i think this article is going prove that wrong.
I was sure after past week the Bioware crybabies would have run out of tears but i think this article is going prove that wrong.
@Chris
I got bored halfway through my second. I don't think I like being a Soldier very much.
Anyway, fair enough, but I think a pretty even mix of Renegade and Paragon gets you the most resources doesn't it? For example
SPOILERZZZZZZZZ
Not actually curing the genophage gets you Salarian support while retaining Turian and Krogan support as well, and it's a very very renegade douchebag thing to do.
Of course that's exactly what I did.
I got bored halfway through my second. I don't think I like being a Soldier very much.
Anyway, fair enough, but I think a pretty even mix of Renegade and Paragon gets you the most resources doesn't it? For example
SPOILERZZZZZZZZ
Not actually curing the genophage gets you Salarian support while retaining Turian and Krogan support as well, and it's a very very renegade douchebag thing to do.
Of course that's exactly what I did.
So how many endings are there? I just finished and got to pick from three. The one I picked wasn't super bad at all. I don't see the problem.
All endings seem to have a upside and a downside, which I like in a game. I don't want the ending to be, Shepard shoots rainbow kiss out his ass, killing all the reapers and spreading love across the universe.
All endings seem to have a upside and a downside, which I like in a game. I don't want the ending to be, Shepard shoots rainbow kiss out his ass, killing all the reapers and spreading love across the universe.
Yeah...being unforgetable regardless of what you've done is kind of what dictators and serial killers are into...
Other than that, I'm trying as hard as I can to forget Mass Effect 3 and its ending, and moving on to other games, because for all of my hatred of hackneyed, uninspired, and downright childish writing, I don't have the ability to support anything like this anymore. Interpretation and mystery are all well and good, but when you downgrade an unknowable evil to the creation of what basically comes down to a star child, insofar as star childs origin is never explained, but whose motives are based around circular logic, logic which has been broken, and yet you give three almost identical endings and no closure, then any interpretation goes straight out the window, and you're only left with questions, as Bioware seem to have forgotten that closure is important to the ending of a trilogy.
I'm going back to Skyrim and Borderlands...maybe they'll ease the hollow feeling I get every time my mind flashes back to that ending...god almighty, it was horrible, like I Am Legend's ending, which they're now ignoring...to make the second movie...using the alternative ending...god dammit! I'm also not supporting DLC, since they told me in that ending message that I can 'purchase DLC' to continue my adventure...fuck 'em, the series is dead, the ending, for me, destroyed my love for the series by making me feel that all my play time had been for nothing. Whatever else on top of that, I just do not enjoy a very contrived ending, that does nothing for the overall series, story, narrative or mythos.
Other than that, I'm trying as hard as I can to forget Mass Effect 3 and its ending, and moving on to other games, because for all of my hatred of hackneyed, uninspired, and downright childish writing, I don't have the ability to support anything like this anymore. Interpretation and mystery are all well and good, but when you downgrade an unknowable evil to the creation of what basically comes down to a star child, insofar as star childs origin is never explained, but whose motives are based around circular logic, logic which has been broken, and yet you give three almost identical endings and no closure, then any interpretation goes straight out the window, and you're only left with questions, as Bioware seem to have forgotten that closure is important to the ending of a trilogy.
I'm going back to Skyrim and Borderlands...maybe they'll ease the hollow feeling I get every time my mind flashes back to that ending...god almighty, it was horrible, like I Am Legend's ending, which they're now ignoring...to make the second movie...using the alternative ending...god dammit! I'm also not supporting DLC, since they told me in that ending message that I can 'purchase DLC' to continue my adventure...fuck 'em, the series is dead, the ending, for me, destroyed my love for the series by making me feel that all my play time had been for nothing. Whatever else on top of that, I just do not enjoy a very contrived ending, that does nothing for the overall series, story, narrative or mythos.
@Nintendan
"So how many endings are there?"
17, last I heard. Mostly tweaks on the primary 3, varying what happens to who, etc etc.
"So how many endings are there?"
17, last I heard. Mostly tweaks on the primary 3, varying what happens to who, etc etc.
@alienlobo;i-kinda-felt-the-same,having-it-just-rented-i-cant-play-multi,not-that-i-would,as-the-multiplayer-demo-boredfd-the-hell-outta-me.anyway,ill-do-what-i-can-in-SP,then-just-youtube-the-other-endings,when-im-done.though-i-hear-theres-not-much-difference
Seriously internet calm the fuck down a bit and breath for a change.
I just finished my playthrough of ME3 with Liara as my love interest (Its got aliens then by god i'm going to sex one) I thought the ending was one of the most memorable endings to a series since Red Dead Redemption which I might add is a LOT fucking worse in my opinion.
*spoilers*
At least Shepard had the whole galaxy riding on him, so he would for sure be remembered. John Marston was gunned down a nobody and only a crude cross marks his grave...
I just finished my playthrough of ME3 with Liara as my love interest (Its got aliens then by god i'm going to sex one) I thought the ending was one of the most memorable endings to a series since Red Dead Redemption which I might add is a LOT fucking worse in my opinion.
*spoilers*
At least Shepard had the whole galaxy riding on him, so he would for sure be remembered. John Marston was gunned down a nobody and only a crude cross marks his grave...
It seriously is a bad ending not simply because of the "choose your own ending" way but because the Catalyst entity is some kind of giant stupid infant.
*SPOILER*
So the Reapers are created to prevent synthetic life from emerging and ending organic life, by making organic life into synthetics(Reapers) and then ending organic life? I guess that makes sense in a stupid and contradictory way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pev_LxXx1hg
*SPOILER*
So the Reapers are created to prevent synthetic life from emerging and ending organic life, by making organic life into synthetics(Reapers) and then ending organic life? I guess that makes sense in a stupid and contradictory way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pev_LxXx1hg
I have no idea if this is real or not but people check this out!
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Memorable? I would have been happy with a memorable ending. A week later and the only thing I remember the endings of Mass Effect for is feeling silly and blowing things up with different colors.
To be honest, he can't win so he's better off sticking to his guns and towing the company line.
One segment of fans will blame it on being a rush job, either being forced to finish it early by EA or bad writers fumbling at the end. The latter being a problem in video game in general. Ex: Borderlands, etc.
Another segment will think its part of a money grab and later there will be some DLC push that adds content that allows you to get a character, have an event, or some other thing that will alter the conditions of the game and allow for an altered ending. Ex: Fallout 3.
Another segment will be fine with the ending and go on their merry way. They're satisfied with the result as is and enjoyed the story, setting, and lore. Just don't change it.
Regardless, no matter what he says, 1-2 of those 3 groups will constantly be angry with him. So why say anything other than the company PR line?
Personally, I haven't finished it yet. Ya'know work etc.. Going on. I've avoided spoilers so all I know is people dislike it but not why. Being a fan from the beginning, I've enjoyed them all, ME1 was great, 2 was okay but lacked RPG elements and story punch for my tastes, and so far I'm having a ball with 3 save the new scanning mechanic. I enjoyed 2's scanning a fuckton, and I loved trucking around in the mako in ME1, and find this new mechanic tiresome since it seems like at max 4 scans you have reapers up your ass. But other than that I'm loving the game, big improvement over 2.
As such I don't know where I'll land in regards to the ending, I hope I'll like it. I'd rather not have the series end with a thud, but of it does that's life. No angry letters, no forum gripes, I'll just be more wary of Bioware in the future. They'd no longer be a preorder, CE style purchase, and more of a wait and see at 35-40 deal.
That's how this stuff is supposed to work I think. If a publisher or devoloper drops the ball, learn from it. Company reps used to be the big guiding factor in gamer purchases and as a result companies worried about how they were perceived, now a days, not so much. I think people should bring that back, the whole vote with your bucks type of thing. Don't like what a creator does to a beloved franchise, lessen your support of it. A publisher makes shitty decisions regarding DLC, or pricing, etc just react accordingly. Make personal choices, don't rail against game reviewers, bloggers, or your fellow gamers. Act how you feel you should act and enjoy the hobby. Don't support the things that piss you off. People start doing that and things will get better, it'll take time, to be noticed and to have effect, but eventually it will get better.
One segment of fans will blame it on being a rush job, either being forced to finish it early by EA or bad writers fumbling at the end. The latter being a problem in video game in general. Ex: Borderlands, etc.
Another segment will think its part of a money grab and later there will be some DLC push that adds content that allows you to get a character, have an event, or some other thing that will alter the conditions of the game and allow for an altered ending. Ex: Fallout 3.
Another segment will be fine with the ending and go on their merry way. They're satisfied with the result as is and enjoyed the story, setting, and lore. Just don't change it.
Regardless, no matter what he says, 1-2 of those 3 groups will constantly be angry with him. So why say anything other than the company PR line?
Personally, I haven't finished it yet. Ya'know work etc.. Going on. I've avoided spoilers so all I know is people dislike it but not why. Being a fan from the beginning, I've enjoyed them all, ME1 was great, 2 was okay but lacked RPG elements and story punch for my tastes, and so far I'm having a ball with 3 save the new scanning mechanic. I enjoyed 2's scanning a fuckton, and I loved trucking around in the mako in ME1, and find this new mechanic tiresome since it seems like at max 4 scans you have reapers up your ass. But other than that I'm loving the game, big improvement over 2.
As such I don't know where I'll land in regards to the ending, I hope I'll like it. I'd rather not have the series end with a thud, but of it does that's life. No angry letters, no forum gripes, I'll just be more wary of Bioware in the future. They'd no longer be a preorder, CE style purchase, and more of a wait and see at 35-40 deal.
That's how this stuff is supposed to work I think. If a publisher or devoloper drops the ball, learn from it. Company reps used to be the big guiding factor in gamer purchases and as a result companies worried about how they were perceived, now a days, not so much. I think people should bring that back, the whole vote with your bucks type of thing. Don't like what a creator does to a beloved franchise, lessen your support of it. A publisher makes shitty decisions regarding DLC, or pricing, etc just react accordingly. Make personal choices, don't rail against game reviewers, bloggers, or your fellow gamers. Act how you feel you should act and enjoy the hobby. Don't support the things that piss you off. People start doing that and things will get better, it'll take time, to be noticed and to have effect, but eventually it will get better.
Putting it here in text:
"Anthraxius Omega wrote...
A few hours ago an anonymous user who leaked the multiplayer DLC (just an hour earlier) has claimed that the ending fiasco was deliberate because of the game’s storyline being leaked. They changed it so they could have more time to prepare the real ending DLC.
It is called “The Truth”, and will be released in April or May… You will be able to continue your story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during the sequence will have a big effect on the ending of The Truth. Also, The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps, including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining Collector Ship included in the DLC, which, by the way, you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have them.
The following picture shows some of the leaked multiplayer classes and races. One race that isn’t shown is the Prothean Adept and Vanguard. This DLC also, enables the ability for owners of the preorder and From Ashes DLC to find their DLC weapons in reinforcement packs.
All of that content, and this might as well be labelled an expansion.
And it’s Free!"
"Anthraxius Omega wrote...
A few hours ago an anonymous user who leaked the multiplayer DLC (just an hour earlier) has claimed that the ending fiasco was deliberate because of the game’s storyline being leaked. They changed it so they could have more time to prepare the real ending DLC.
It is called “The Truth”, and will be released in April or May… You will be able to continue your story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during the sequence will have a big effect on the ending of The Truth. Also, The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps, including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining Collector Ship included in the DLC, which, by the way, you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have them.
The following picture shows some of the leaked multiplayer classes and races. One race that isn’t shown is the Prothean Adept and Vanguard. This DLC also, enables the ability for owners of the preorder and From Ashes DLC to find their DLC weapons in reinforcement packs.
All of that content, and this might as well be labelled an expansion.
And it’s Free!"
Good. He shouldn't be sorry.
I had no problem with the endings at all. Frustrating how everything involving ME3 is filled with comments about "OMG teh ending iz so horribru!" Shut up.
I had no problem with the endings at all. Frustrating how everything involving ME3 is filled with comments about "OMG teh ending iz so horribru!" Shut up.
@AncientPsychicTandemWarElephant
Really hope that's true. Especially the "it's free" part. If this comes to pass, BioWare will honestly be the greatest developer of our time. Maximum trolling at its absolute finest.
Really hope that's true. Especially the "it's free" part. If this comes to pass, BioWare will honestly be the greatest developer of our time. Maximum trolling at its absolute finest.
@APTAwElephant
I'll take that with a grain of salt especially because of 4chan.
Though everyone is hoping something like that is indeed the case.
I'll take that with a grain of salt especially because of 4chan.
Though everyone is hoping something like that is indeed the case.
I still haven't beaten ME3 yet but I will say that they made all classes other than Soldier (AKA ME2 god tier) more fun to play.
This whole shtick is amusing and sad.
One side feels invested in a series to the point Bioware's mishandling of the end game that they do as many people do these days, they storm comment sections and forums despite having no real reason not to be suspicious about the quality of the game, given the studio's recent track record under EA's stewardship.
The other side is somehow musters righteous indignation that groups people who are pissed off about something would do anything other than start shouting on the Internet. Yet they cannot stop reading and commenting on it themselves, only fanning the flames of rage for doing something they themselves can easily ignore and feed the shit storm instead..
I love/hate the Internet.
One side feels invested in a series to the point Bioware's mishandling of the end game that they do as many people do these days, they storm comment sections and forums despite having no real reason not to be suspicious about the quality of the game, given the studio's recent track record under EA's stewardship.
The other side is somehow musters righteous indignation that groups people who are pissed off about something would do anything other than start shouting on the Internet. Yet they cannot stop reading and commenting on it themselves, only fanning the flames of rage for doing something they themselves can easily ignore and feed the shit storm instead..
I love/hate the Internet.
This whole shtick is amusing and sad.
One side feels invested in a series to the point Bioware's mishandling of the end game that they do as many people do these days, they storm comment sections and forums despite having no real reason not to be suspicious about the quality of the game, given the studio's recent track record under EA's stewardship.
The other side is somehow musters righteous indignation that groups people who are pissed off about something would do anything other than start shouting on the Internet. Yet they cannot stop reading and commenting on it themselves, only fanning the flames of rage for doing something they themselves can easily ignore and feed the shit storm instead..
I love/hate the Internet.
One side feels invested in a series to the point Bioware's mishandling of the end game that they do as many people do these days, they storm comment sections and forums despite having no real reason not to be suspicious about the quality of the game, given the studio's recent track record under EA's stewardship.
The other side is somehow musters righteous indignation that groups people who are pissed off about something would do anything other than start shouting on the Internet. Yet they cannot stop reading and commenting on it themselves, only fanning the flames of rage for doing something they themselves can easily ignore and feed the shit storm instead..
I love/hate the Internet.
So basically, he figured people would remember ME 3 better if it ended with the vaguest ending since Big O.
@janklofs: yes. Hating a poorly written ending someone tries to pass off as deep totally makes someone a fantard.
So basically, he figured people would remember ME 3 better if it ended with the vaguest ending since Big O.
How fucking dare he!
Only joking. Let's see just how much more rage Mass Effect fans have in the comments. Or maybe their keyboards have broken after being flooded by tears of anger.
Only joking. Let's see just how much more rage Mass Effect fans have in the comments. Or maybe their keyboards have broken after being flooded by tears of anger.
@Dreaming
You can
A) Not do it (not talk to the crew member about it, and finish the game).
B) Start at Mass Effect 3 which auto-fails all the loyalty missions (which many people have done, and Bioware is encouraging people to do).
C) Do it, but fail (see Tali's loyalty mission in particular, if you rat out her father).
You can
A) Not do it (not talk to the crew member about it, and finish the game).
B) Start at Mass Effect 3 which auto-fails all the loyalty missions (which many people have done, and Bioware is encouraging people to do).
C) Do it, but fail (see Tali's loyalty mission in particular, if you rat out her father).
The thing is though.
While i'm not raging for the ending to me changed.
To me the ending is forgettable as all hell.
It's like most sci-fi. Rockets along for the first 3/4. then they go shit shit how do we resolve this. Quick lets create something that will magically solve all our problems.
My favourite example comes from a SGU 2 parter. They spend a whole episode bitching that the ship is running out of power to close on that it's going to fly into a star. They then spend the next 35 minutes complaining they are all going to die because there is no power. Only to have the ship magically decide that it collect's power by flying dangerously close to a star :(.
While i'm not raging for the ending to me changed.
To me the ending is forgettable as all hell.
It's like most sci-fi. Rockets along for the first 3/4. then they go shit shit how do we resolve this. Quick lets create something that will magically solve all our problems.
My favourite example comes from a SGU 2 parter. They spend a whole episode bitching that the ship is running out of power to close on that it's going to fly into a star. They then spend the next 35 minutes complaining they are all going to die because there is no power. Only to have the ship magically decide that it collect's power by flying dangerously close to a star :(.
From what I've heard, I'm 60% glad I didn't buy this game.
But the other 40% always tells me to buy it whenever I see it somewhere.
But then I saw that Skyrim was lowered to $40 at Gamestop and bought that instead. There goes my social life.
But the other 40% always tells me to buy it whenever I see it somewhere.
But then I saw that Skyrim was lowered to $40 at Gamestop and bought that instead. There goes my social life.
@Chris Carter
A) Well, yeah but why play a Bioware game if your NOT going to talk to everybody. Writing is probably the only thing Bioware is truly good at.
B) Why would someone start a trilogy at the end? That's like watching Return of the Jedi first, you'd have no stake in any of the characters and have no idea what's going on.
C)Unless your going for a completely evil route I doubt you would even fail most of the missions without realizing what decisions are right and wrong.
A) Well, yeah but why play a Bioware game if your NOT going to talk to everybody. Writing is probably the only thing Bioware is truly good at.
B) Why would someone start a trilogy at the end? That's like watching Return of the Jedi first, you'd have no stake in any of the characters and have no idea what's going on.
C)Unless your going for a completely evil route I doubt you would even fail most of the missions without realizing what decisions are right and wrong.
OK Mr. Hudson,
If you're not going to change the ending can you at least answer the questions about the ending the fans have????????????????????
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If you're not going to change the ending can you at least answer the questions about the ending the fans have????????????????????
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