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Some birds just aren't meant to be kept in cages. Fly free, doctors, but DAMN YOU for selling Bioware to EA. It's one thing to retire from farming, it's another to salt the earth
Well, might as well leave before things get bad... worse... worser.... anyways, they sold the thing to EA, made their money and are probably on their way to present something new in whatever area they pursuit. Best of luck. Specially to whatever's left of Bioware. They're gonna need it.
Exactly what Rare founders did with MS and Molieneux did with Bulldog with EA.
Never sure if they had an escape plan when they took the $ with any of them or if they just didn't like the environment they entered after selling the company.
Never sure if they had an escape plan when they took the $ with any of them or if they just didn't like the environment they entered after selling the company.
Good thing they're getting off a sinking ship.
I won't really care about bioware anymore, as far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect ends with 3, Dragon Age ends with Origins and it's dlc, Bioware ends here.
The last remnants of Bioware have been raped and cannibalized. With my personal taste, I'm pretty sure whatever new IP they come up with will be another shooter, and won't interest me.
I bid the adieu Bioware.
Now let's see where CDprojeckt goes from here. They're the next hottest thing.
I won't really care about bioware anymore, as far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect ends with 3, Dragon Age ends with Origins and it's dlc, Bioware ends here.
The last remnants of Bioware have been raped and cannibalized. With my personal taste, I'm pretty sure whatever new IP they come up with will be another shooter, and won't interest me.
I bid the adieu Bioware.
Now let's see where CDprojeckt goes from here. They're the next hottest thing.
Gamer grudges lol. ME1, ME2 and DAO were awesome. And ME3 is pretty damn good from what I've played, screw whatever happens at the end.
They made a couple underwhelming games, a bad ending and suddenly everyone hates them. Sigh.
So yeah, I'm excited for the DLC, another ME game, another DA game (that's hopefully good this time) and another IP (assuming it's not a COD-clone RPG or something dumb like that).
They made a couple underwhelming games, a bad ending and suddenly everyone hates them. Sigh.
So yeah, I'm excited for the DLC, another ME game, another DA game (that's hopefully good this time) and another IP (assuming it's not a COD-clone RPG or something dumb like that).
"another IP (assuming it's not a COD-clone RPG or something dumb like that)."
It will be a new IP made not to just grab the Call of Duty audience, but also the Skyrim, Angry Birds, Farmville, etc. audience.
It will be a new IP made not to just grab the Call of Duty audience, but also the Skyrim, Angry Birds, Farmville, etc. audience.
I agree with a lot of the comments here. Way to sell your souls then run off the with the money after a couple shoddy sequels.
Oh, and on a more serious note; If these comments are anything to go by, I'm completely embarrassed to be a 'gaymer(ugh)' right now. Shame on all of you. Eat a dick.
Love,
Ramm.
Love,
Ramm.
As for Greg Zeschuk, he admits that "I've reached an unexpected point in my life where I no longer have the passion that I once did for the company, for the games, and for the challenge of creation."
Yeah, I'm pretty sure working with EA will do that to a person...
"something exciting, different and frankly downright scary -- investing in and mentoring new entrepreneurs, and more specifically, the field of social/impact investing."
I know I'm probably twisting the context, but this sounds kinda cynical to me.. I mean, sure, mentoring new entrepreneurs is a crap shoot, but geez. He sounds like he's writing it (and people) off before he's even started.
" The main project I will be working on is a web-based interview show called The Beer Diaries where I interview notable brewers and showcase their beers. If things go well, I'll work on other beer-related shows, apps and projects."
This sounds.. interesting.. I mean I'd watch it, loving both beer and food.. But it sounds incredibly niche.
"Say what you will about the company's more recent games, but "the Doctors" contributed to videogames in a very meaningful way."
They did, there's no denying that, but the direction they've allowed the company to take in recent years isn't exactly the brightest mark on their tenure there. And I got on to fear what will happen to BiowWare without them.
All that said.. Any one else thinking this is on the heels of a bunch of other things? I mean, SWTOR didn't go as well as they'd imagine, and both DA2 and ME3 got huge amounts of flak... It sounds to me that they've thrown up their hands just given up completely, instead of deciding to simply do other things with their lives.
"and a whole new Mass Effect-univese game."
I'm both intrigued and a little sickened..
Yeah, I'm pretty sure working with EA will do that to a person...
"something exciting, different and frankly downright scary -- investing in and mentoring new entrepreneurs, and more specifically, the field of social/impact investing."
I know I'm probably twisting the context, but this sounds kinda cynical to me.. I mean, sure, mentoring new entrepreneurs is a crap shoot, but geez. He sounds like he's writing it (and people) off before he's even started.
" The main project I will be working on is a web-based interview show called The Beer Diaries where I interview notable brewers and showcase their beers. If things go well, I'll work on other beer-related shows, apps and projects."
This sounds.. interesting.. I mean I'd watch it, loving both beer and food.. But it sounds incredibly niche.
"Say what you will about the company's more recent games, but "the Doctors" contributed to videogames in a very meaningful way."
They did, there's no denying that, but the direction they've allowed the company to take in recent years isn't exactly the brightest mark on their tenure there. And I got on to fear what will happen to BiowWare without them.
All that said.. Any one else thinking this is on the heels of a bunch of other things? I mean, SWTOR didn't go as well as they'd imagine, and both DA2 and ME3 got huge amounts of flak... It sounds to me that they've thrown up their hands just given up completely, instead of deciding to simply do other things with their lives.
"and a whole new Mass Effect-univese game."
I'm both intrigued and a little sickened..
EA does it again.
Huge drop in quality with DA2 and ME3. Many lazy things about those games. DA: O and the first ME were probably their most ambitious this gen.
Huge drop in quality with DA2 and ME3. Many lazy things about those games. DA: O and the first ME were probably their most ambitious this gen.
Nighty night Bioware.
Can't say I didn't see this happening, the company's been getting progressively worse over the last 5 years.
Can't say I didn't see this happening, the company's been getting progressively worse over the last 5 years.
There might have been some sort of quality drop, but from what I can tell when playing is that the excitement DA:O and ME1 had has gotten less and less as they pump out sequels.
Bioware needs some new ideas...I hope their new IP is good.
Bioware needs some new ideas...I hope their new IP is good.
Damn. I was still hoping for Bioware to do an MDK3-style passion project at some point.
Oh well. Good luck to the doctors and to BioWare!
Oh well. Good luck to the doctors and to BioWare!
SWOTOR PROPER GOT DAMN IT! @tuomon you see me dude. The official answer to your question is the finest purp on a white sandy beach, while a harry fraud produced track plays.
@Browneyewinkin,
Ha! Made me laugh. Thank you, for that laugh. Very true though.
As for this sort of news? I would have cared before the merger with ElectronicArts, but now? Ha-ha! Fuck no. The only thing this represents is that like Zynga, Bioware is going south and quickly. Not even staying to see the shit hit the fan with DragonShit: Inquisition? Wow.. Talk about total pussies. By all means defend them all you want. You know they left for other reasons then what they put out for the public to see.
Like someone already said they already sold the development team, and company to ElectronicArts, made money, allowed said company to become shit and decided to bail before it got really ugly. Seriously MassErection3 the orgy for earth was so bad I heard BattleStar fans laughing at MassEffect fans. You know what they said? Atleast it was a better ending then MassEffect3. Sad day in hell, but then again it's Bioware. Which does not mean quality anymore. More like cheap hooker sell out.
Pfft.. Whatever. I honestly do not care about those two or Bioware anymore. I just find it funny that they leave now before any new titles are even completed. Not all of the blame is on EA though. A large portion is on those two right there. The sell outs.
Ha! Made me laugh. Thank you, for that laugh. Very true though.
As for this sort of news? I would have cared before the merger with ElectronicArts, but now? Ha-ha! Fuck no. The only thing this represents is that like Zynga, Bioware is going south and quickly. Not even staying to see the shit hit the fan with DragonShit: Inquisition? Wow.. Talk about total pussies. By all means defend them all you want. You know they left for other reasons then what they put out for the public to see.
Like someone already said they already sold the development team, and company to ElectronicArts, made money, allowed said company to become shit and decided to bail before it got really ugly. Seriously MassErection3 the orgy for earth was so bad I heard BattleStar fans laughing at MassEffect fans. You know what they said? Atleast it was a better ending then MassEffect3. Sad day in hell, but then again it's Bioware. Which does not mean quality anymore. More like cheap hooker sell out.
Pfft.. Whatever. I honestly do not care about those two or Bioware anymore. I just find it funny that they leave now before any new titles are even completed. Not all of the blame is on EA though. A large portion is on those two right there. The sell outs.
Meh, Bioware has been dead for years now. Enjoy that money you made selling out, its just business after all...
I find it hard to believe that EA had nothing to do with this departure, but blaming EA for everything is baseless unless you actually know what happened. The responses are so nicely PR'd that we will probably never know the true nature of their decision.
I'm also a little surprised at all the anger directed at Zeschuk and Muzyka, calling them deserters. May be it's just a lack of experience with the corporate world, but when you build something that doesn't turn out how you want you don't wallow in misery and eat shit for the 'common good', particularly if you lack the power to change it. You make a graceful departure and give the reins to someone that can lead the project with the proper conviction.
I'm also a little surprised at all the anger directed at Zeschuk and Muzyka, calling them deserters. May be it's just a lack of experience with the corporate world, but when you build something that doesn't turn out how you want you don't wallow in misery and eat shit for the 'common good', particularly if you lack the power to change it. You make a graceful departure and give the reins to someone that can lead the project with the proper conviction.
Well you'd have imagined that the employment agreements from the buyouts would have ran out sooner than later. See ya BioWare.
"I've reached an unexpected point in my life where I no longer have the passion that I once did for the company, for the games, and for the challenge of creation."
Sums up the last three years of Bioware releases pretty well.
Sums up the last three years of Bioware releases pretty well.
"I've reached an unexpected point in my life where I no longer have the passion that I once did for the company, for the games, and for the challenge of creation."
That is a great of way saying, EA killed my baby.
That is a great of way saying, EA killed my baby.
I dread to imagine the "discussions" between these two and EA that ultimately led to them deciding to leave the industry. And no, I don't buy that EA has nothing to do with this.
EA didn't -kill- their baby. EA merely dressed their baby up in provocative attire and taught it how to whore itself to the highest bidder. And Ray and Greg just watched them do it... *tears*
the guys who give them so much hate just dont understand that u cant keep a whole genre stuck in past Its unbeliable what these dudes did to rpg games in a few years cause for haters they want those game to be stuck in 90s rather than getting amazing shit like Mass Effect 3
What we need is another MMO to make everything alright.
It'll have a million subs, and be a WOW killer!
It'll have a million subs, and be a WOW killer!
@ElektroDragon: Well, and what if they are? They've earned their marks and their money and no one is forced to stick with a company forever.
Amtalx is one of the few level-headed commenters in here, it's sad.
Amtalx is one of the few level-headed commenters in here, it's sad.
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