Nary three months after the BioShock 2 announcement, Take-Two Interactive chairman and talking head Strauss Zelnick casually mentioned to investors in a conference call that BioShock 3 is on its way.
Speaking about the recently-announced, Verbinksi-directed BioShock movie, Zelnick said, "It's more likely it would be released coincident with BioShock 3." While I can't necessarily blame Take-Two for trying to make some bank on an amazing IP, I have to admit that this is akin to a dagger in the kidney. No platform, release schedule, or studio was mentioned in the pseudo-announcement.
With a sure-to-be successful PS3 port, a sequel, and a movie, Jack Ryan seems to be doing pretty well for himself. I try (usually unsuccessfully) to stay out of the internet hivemind, but this time I'm just going dive right in: do not want. BioShock 2 has considerable narrative concerns of its own, and I can't begin to imagine where a third game will lead. I tend to give developers the benefit of the doubt in most cases, but for the time being, I'm aggressively pessimistic about BioShock 3.
[Via IGN, via Clockwork's c-blog]
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That's it. Game over. There is no God.
Time to move along people, Bioshock is over, everyone go home.
it is only possible to make a sequel since fucking rapture was no more at the end of the first game. The only possible sequel to that would be "kill the 7 splicers on the oil rig" THATS IT. What the fuck are they doing trying to make it a trilogy.
This is akin to getting a blowjob from your sister.
I meant its only possible to make a prequel.
Pretty much sister blowjob.
The only continuation of bioshock was a prequel taking placing during raptures fall and that would be good for 1 game. Not a damn hollywood bastardization and whatever the hell a third game would bring to screw with a once good franchise.
why would it have to be in rapture? it possibly couldn't be set anywhere else? nothings written in stone, only code. and code can be torn down and built right back up. they could make one above the clouds right?
The title, it's so true.
I'm with everyone on the whole "Bioshock doesn't need a sequel/prequel", but what of the possibilities that these "sequels" are akin to the Final Fantasy "sequels", ie. only related in title and vague references?
I really can't think of any specific ideas off the top of my head, but it's a better alternative to whoring out the current story.
@Seanus
It's a good idea, but it's still completely whoring out something that was as perfect as we could have asked from the games industry.
I assume one of the sequels will be a straight sequel, while one will be a prequel. Either way, whoring out = BAD.
Ugh...
You know a franchise has been whored-out when there are multiple announced sequels, none of which you know anything about.
Oh well.
Wow, I could never come up with something like this. Whats really funny is how many people actually believe this is real.
lol, you guys are so gullible.
I dunno why you're all freaking out. Bioshock 2 will obviously be a prequel and Bioshock 3 will likely be Bioshock The Official Game of the Movie which will be a complete retelling of the original Bioshock only with Christian Bale as Jack Ryan.
If Prince of Persia can do it, so can Bioshock!
whether or not the dreaded trilogy rumor is true, the business end of gaming is starting to show. all we can hope for now are developers with more integrity than board members.
I'm worried.
I do however think it would be pretty cool to play as ryan's girlfriend (diane?)- she had an interesting story with both a view from ryan's side of the war and then a view from atlas's side.
I don't know... what if the games are fun? Have you guys played them yet? I love this pitchfork media mentality that anything successful is shitty.
Yes, this could be an absolutely terrible thing, but hey, we could be totally wrong, and the sequels might actually be decent. They might not live up to Bioshock, but if they're good games that don't fuck up the story then I'm intersted.
The movie though? Ehhh.
@nukka jdav
But that's the problem the quality is not in question here, but the fact that they are taking a store that should stand alone and creating decent games just so they can rely on the name and make a quick buck. I'm not against Take-Two making more Bioshock-esque type games but using the Bioshock "franchise" just out of greed is what I'm against.
I'm surprised. At this point in time games take LONGER to make than movies on average, so expecting two seperate Bioshock games to be made in the time span to make one Bioshock movie...
Prediction: The Bioshock movie will be based on Bioshock. Bioshock 3 will not be directly from the series but will be a 'movie-based game' based on the Bioshock movie. It will suck balls and try to fill in holes between scenes in the movie like the iron man game tried to do.
PHAIL.
I'm going to wait and see how Bioshock 2 looks before going all into ape shit internet nagger mode about the franchise-itis. However there's NO reason for a movie. The medium only stands to lose from translation to cinema.
remember when viewtiful joe was so fresh and new? the whole world was bright and fun.
yeah.
I'm going to cry.
@-PL- - It's not shitty because it's successful, it's shitty because the story of Rapture has no where else to go. It's finished, done, and neatly tied up. The *only* way to go would be to take BioShock gameplay (plasmids, tonics, etc ... ) and put them in a different setting.
bad things come to those who want too much money.
I hope they somehow go the direction of SystemShock and somehow tie them together. They should make it a sequel in name only, get rid of rapture and go another direction.
I wonder if Ryan would approve of this.
Is a man not entitled to the whoring of his franchise?
A consumer obeys!
Bioshock would work better as a TV show rather than a movie. There really isn't enough screen time to develop Rapture.
The problem with already planning 2 more games and a movie is that I am really worried that they are just going to fuck up an amazing game. Bioshock was so amazing all on its own, I fear that any sort of return to Rapture, either before or after the events of the first Bioshock game would just ruin the brilliance of it.
The developers really did a phenomenal job with the game from beginning to end. Is Ken Levine going to be on the project for the sequel? From what I understood his team is working on a different project other than Bioshock 2. And if that is the case, then Bioshock is to CoD2 as Bioshock 2 is to CoD3.
Bioshock 3: Rapture IN SPACE!
Knowing our luck Tim Burton will get control of the movie right and will cast Johnny Depp as Andrew Ryan.
Bioshock 4: Big Daddy Day Care
Yeah but Bioshock 4 will be awesome.
totally. it's too bad bioshock 5 will be a major disappointment. leaving a bad taste in our mouths until they release bioshock 6: rapture rapes the muses.
Up next will be family friendly bioshock spinoff Rapture Carnival Games for the Wii. :)
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Bioshock 2 ends up being great
@Mxy
I want that. I really want that. Seriously. A retro-futuristic BioShock set on the moon. It would be AWESOME. And don't anyone say "System Shock," or I'll rape you with a macaque.
Am I the only one who is not presuming the worst and rioting in the streets? I look at it this way: We've already gotten one great game out of the franchise, something which no future game is going to take from us. And Ken Levine is involved with BS2 and the BS movie, so that inspires a little confidence. Not all franchises turn entirely to shit. Metal Gear Solid turned out okay. Why not BioShock? It's possible.
God Of War could've easily never had a sequel, it's story has a good conclusion and stuff, but look how brilliant the sequel to that was and David Jaffe didn't even direct it
I honestly think you guys need to give this a chance and quit whining till you play it
The first game was stunning, so it makes sense that the equal willbe rubbish... wait... no it doesn't!?
I'm flabbergasted by the negativity of some people here. You guys act like you've never purchased a sequel before, thats been good or better than the original. You are also acting like making a sequel is some kind of crime, while using selective memory to requested FFVII remakes and stamp all over your views.
Come on guys, this is bullshit, you can't jump sides of the fence on this. Either you are for sequels (done better) or not for them at all. And while you may often forget (myself included sometimes) games are still a business.
On top of that, did you guys rally with the same negativity for Half Life, Resident Evil, MGS etc sequels, crying into your milk like miserable fucks? Building upon success is a natural progression for anyone with sense. You guys should have more confidence in 2K. Indulging in sequels and not supporting others that are just as valid for success, (in fear they might be crap etc) is hypocritical and stupid double standards.
Did you guys ever think, that you don't actually need Rapture to have a Bioshock sequel game necessarily? While the story revolves around the characters machinations and agendas, the plot devices of Adam, Eve, Plasmids can be used anywhere. The possibility of plasmids out in the open world, slowly corrupting it, would make one hell of a sequel game.
Remember that Adam and Eve orginate from natural sources on the sea floor. Since the sea covers 70% of the planet, there's no reason why some of Sujoy's research couldn't have escaped Rapture (before its downfall), into the wrong hands (in a similar way that has happened in RE series). Also in a similar way to RE, we know that money is a good motivator to steal and sell secrets.
Think big, and imagine plasmids in the hands of any nations military, in the modern world, and you'll have some idea of where Bioshock could go next, and still be freaking cool.
This is why more Bioshock is going to be worth our time. Have some faith, confidence and support 2K.
And hey, look at those sequel scores. RE4, MGS4, Half Life 2, Ocarina of Time, CoD4 etc etc, all sequels, all damn good. Try to keep your mind open, people. Sequel does not mean or equal a bad game.
I'm with you Sharpless, totally agree.
I for one, can't wait.
Bunch of negative Nellys. >.>
As long as the sequel does not take place in the world of Rapture, or hundreds-thousands of years after the events of 1, storyline issues don't concern me. What concerns me is by casually dropping news on sequels, the amount of development time and polish the sequels are going to get....
The Amazing Shenazin is right. What the hell people? Getting negative before it's even released. AvP to AvP2 was an improvement and we are still asking for a sequal. System Shock to System Shock 2 was an improvement and we still asking for a sequal. Baldur's Gate, Halo (to many), Resident Evil, Silent Hill, God of War, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, and so on all have been regarded to having decent sequals and follow ons. Give me a break people. Sequal doesn't always mean crap. Should be ashamed of yourselves.
And because YOU can't think of something different for Rapture doesn't mean others can't. You sure as hell didn't think of Rapture in the first place.
The point is that they have announced Bioshock 2, 3 and a film before we know anything at all about any of them. This is blatant whoring out of the series, which leaves a high possibility of them all being shit, since money is clearly being put at the very top of the agenda.
So whilst they may all be awesome again, the fact remains that there is a larger possibility of them all sucking harder than if they had just done things slowly and naturally.
i.e. this is like announcing Final Fantasy 13,14 and a film based on 13 simultaneously years ago. You'd instantly be worried about the quality of 13 because of the split agenda, would you not?
You know this slang term whoring is stupid really. While I'm one for criticing Square Enix for overusing certain IP, I do this because I know there's other IP more deserving of attention, and other stuff they could be making.
There has only been one Bioshock game of late, and before that the last system shock game was years ago. This is hardly whoring or for a better word overusing IP, when you compare this to FF games (Square Enix recently pushing out almost a few FF games in a year). Get some perspective.
We aren't gonna see Bioshock 2 until probably 09/10 anyway, and Bioshock 3 naturally beyond that, so though 2K have opened their mouths on it, notice they haven't given any dates. Take a chill pill, people.
As for the Bioshock film, I'm gonna keep an open mind on it. Why? Because again, there's so much story that the Bioshock universe can cover. I'd like to see Rapture being planned and built and Andrew Ryan before he left the mainland, thing like this would be better covered in a book or film, even if film is a step back from games, it will help bring new fans to the Bioshock games.
I for one will probably get both sequels and love them both, faults and all. Looking back through my gaming past, I realized I'm a sucker for a sequel of a good game. If I drop a series its usually after repeated failures and disappointments around the 3rd and 4th title.
As far as the film... well, if they get the right artistic talent, it could work. Doesn't sound like they are trying to rush anything, which is good as there needs to be a lot of careful work to capture what made Bioshock great. The city and environments need to be believable so I'll wait to see pictures of the set and cast before I make judgement.
@Amazing Shenazin -- God of War 2 was brilliant until the end. A final boss that consists entirely of cutscenes and quick-time events? I'm surprised no one has flayed Cory Barlog alive over that bullshit.
@Calkulon -- thank you.
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