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BioShock 2 won't have LAN or dedicated servers photo

Yes, you read that right. There won't be any LAN support for the console or PC versions of BioShock 2. Dedicated servers are also out completely.

The Cult of Rapture put up a Q&A list of multiplayer related key points and LAN support and dedicated servers just weren't able to make it in. Digital Extremes, the developers behind BioShock 2's multiplayer, wanted to ensure they created a solid game foundation first and foremost. They could have either spent all their resources doing everything and leaving things feeling unfinished, or they could have spent their time focusing on key parts to make a good overall multiplayer experience, as the A of the Q&A states.

Expect petitions expressing rage over this news to make it all over the net in 3 ... 2 ...

BIOSHOCK 2 MULTIPLAYER AND MATCHMAKING Q&A [2K Games]

 


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The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:13
The Silent Protagonist
Its stuff like this where gamers just make a big, whiny show about the dumbing down of gaming, threaten to boycott and then...

They go out and buy it anyway. That's a real way to show them you have some spine, right?
Astalano's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:16
Astalano
Ok, let me outline something. Dedicated servers cost LESS, because the community provides a lot of them. Also, dropping dedicated servers is not the way to start up a good online community, especially with how underwhelming the multiplayer of Bioshock 2 will be as compared to the competition. Let's be real guys, it has no chance against the multiplayer beasts of this gen and won't be drawing away multiplayer fans from Modern Warfare 2 or Battlefield: Bad Company 2 anytime soon.

Also, I thought companies would have learned their lesson with the very underwhelming reviews of the PC version of MW2, which stands almost 10 points lower than the console version.

All in all, if you want to be dicks 2K, be dicks, but don't expect to get rewarded for it.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:24
randombullseye
They're just doing this to upset longtime PC fans of the multiplayer modes.
Turtlehermit's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:35
Turtlehermit
How stupid is this? Its the community that provides 90% of the dedicated servers.
Bioshock 2 might as well put a big 'pirate me' sticker on its back.
Carl1412's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:43
Carl1412
Noone gives a shit about Bioshock's multiplayer anyway seeing as it wasn't needed in the first place
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:45
Narishma
This is irrelevant to most people. I don't think anybody is buying Bioshock 2 for the multiplayer so it doesn't really matter much.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:47
Chronic Logic
Aw man, I really enjoyed using Hamachi. Also...

Ghost125's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:49
Ghost125
it's true, no one give a shit about Bioshock MP, so this notice doesn't affect me
Themightylebeau2009's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:56
Themightylebeau2009
I'll give it a try, bound to be a few like me who are curious and want something different, not all online players hammer CoD or whatever happens to be flavour of the month.

Hell, I still play Assault on Dark Athena online sometomes.

Is this the downside to being a PC gamer these days?
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 06:57
TheDreadHawk
BioShock 2 is the most pointless sequel ever.

Fuck multiplayer, too.
Evergreen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:05
Evergreen
I have to say, I'm getting less and less interested in BioShock 2. It never needed a sequel, it doesn't need multiplayer, no Levine yadda yadda yadda...

But then they add crazy DRM, these online issues, not to mention that my PC doesn't meet the recommended processor...
Devils Theory's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:10
Devils Theory
Who gives a shit when you will just buy the game
douglatins's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:13
douglatins
The DRM was enough for me to forget about paying for the game
Anjo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:13
Anjo
Why'd they bother with multiplayer in the first place?
bluemeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:26
bluemeep
It's a good thing this is a single player game. It's always silly when they try and shoehorn in multiplayer on a game where it clearly has no purpose. Yep. Siiiinnnngle player.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:26
Takeshi
No rage here. Just a bit curious. LAN isn't particularly new or anything. I'm pretty sure they didn't have to invent anything. I mean they're solely working on multi-player. How hard can LAN implementation be? Maybe I'm completely wrong but I'm sure one of my fellow community member will point that out to me.
superdance14's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:34
superdance14
Cost of Developing PC Blockbuster - $30 million

Cost of PC Game - $50

Watching PC Fanboys Complain and Threaten Boycotts - Priceless
StingingVelvet's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:38
StingingVelvet
I don't think anyone really cares about the multiplayer in this game. Putting money into it was pretty stupid if you ask me.
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:42
FatherChesz
Thanks for taking off the pressure! Now I don't really have to worry about finishing BioShock.
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:42
Xonticus
Not like the multiplayer is going to be the selling point but,

I just don't like the current trend of "hey, you used to enjoy muliplayer games on your pc? well, forget what made them fun, pc losers!!!"

A definite no buy. Like MW2.
Mueti's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:56
Mueti
I fear the day a game I actually care about pulls this kind of shit...
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 07:58
Xzyliac
The best part this game barely warranted multiplayer anyway but even the people who acknowledge that will boycott "Out of the principle of the thing."

Just play games people.
smoger's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:04
smoger
Doesn't seem that they're pulling an IW to me. While IW(and/or Activision) was purposely out to f*ck over PC players(not only with lousy MP but also with price hikes), 2k simply focused on the single player.. and for a game like BioShock 2, that's very understandable.

IW also already had netcode from their first game while 2k was building their MP mode from scratch. I can give them a little bit of leeway here.
SedeoInedus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:08
SedeoInedus
I love listening to people moan about DRM and no dedicated servers. Pc gamer tear's are the sweetest
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:11
Xonticus
@Xzyliac

It obviously doesn't mean anything to you to be able to play pc multiplayer games on dedicated servers, and suddenly companies are no longer supporting online communities like this? I call bullshit on that fact. It could very well be that you are not a online pc gamer, so of course it wouldn't mean as much to you to play on a dedicated server or LAN, or not.

Its just us people who are used to playing with it, fucking hate that these companies are not supporting it anymore, for some idiotic reason.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:12
ScottyG
SC2 and MW2 I could understand, but who gives a fuck about Bioshock multiplayer? It was clear from the moment they accounted it that it was a shitty tacked on mode that'd just hilight the worst part about Bioshock (actually playing it).
vecha's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:15
vecha
I wasn't looking forward to the MP portion of the game anyways....
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:17
Xonticus
@Sedeolnedus

Again, if you've been playing games for years and suddenly they took some of the best community based features that extended the lifetime of the game based on modifications and persistent servers, wouldn't you be pissed too? I don't expect you to understand, because console games don't really have anything like this.

The closest thing I could think of at the moment is, what if xbox live pretty much shut down everything except the ability to play games online, and instead they put into place a Wii-like friend code feature? It would be a pain in the ass to play with friends and have fun, right? Exactly.
Snidesworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:26
Snidesworth
As others have said, who cares? I'm not going to play Bioshock 2 for the multiplayer. It's a dick move, but it's ultimately one that doesn't affect many people.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:34
Demtor
Eh, it was just slapped in there for the Halo kiddies who whined about it in the first one anyways. I bet that particular crowd could care less how they play online, as long as they get to swear at people with their verbal diarrhea.
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:36
eduh
no one is going to play bioshock's multiplayer competitively, so it doesnt really matter.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:39
Takeshi
@Xonticus
I kind of get your point. But it's not that you've been playing Bioshock on dedicated servers for years. Modern Warfare 2? Yeah that might be something different since that's is pretty much an online only game. But in Bioshock's case it's just an extra feature. Which I'm pretty sure nobody is going to bother with after 2 weeks or so. You have to look at every game by itself. Don't compare it with MW2 and don't go overboard with boycotting games. In the end the only thing you'll accomplish is not playing the game.
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:42
eduh
also, loled at people saying pc gamers would boycott this. haha
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:48
Xzyliac
@Xonticus
Bioshock is not the game to let out your displeasure. Even moreso it's not a game people will play online.

I'm not about to protest against environmental destruction by yelling at one guy who threw a candy wrapper and suddenly everyone will get it.

No I don't play PC game but I do understand the situation and I most certainly do care. But if you think nerd raging over a game no one will play online anyway is worth it you're doing it wrong.

Reward them for what will hopefully be a good single player campaign and ignore their shitty multiplayer.
RaccoonsFury's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:54
RaccoonsFury
Guess what I'll be renting instead of buying now?
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 08:56
Xonticus
Lol.

in my first post I stated:

"Not like the multiplayer is going to be the selling point but,

I just don't like the current trend of "hey, you used to enjoy muliplayer games on your pc? well, forget what made them fun, pc losers!!!""

That was all I meant. I was just trying to explain it to people who had no clue about what they are talking about, and making snide remarks about how PC gamers should cry a river.

Nerd rage? clearly not. Sorry my 'nerd rage' was inappropriate for a relevant article. My bad.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:13
Xzyliac
Excuse me if I sounded defensive Xonticus. By nerd rage all I'm saying is this really shouldn't phase anyone. Again I agree with you. But this is such a tiny fragment of the problem.
zeroword's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:23
zeroword
Yea its bad but its really a single player game. No one gives a crap about multiplayer here. Its the DRM that will get this game pirated out the wazoo. Companies love giving pirates the better version.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:26
DaedHead8
Nobody in this comment thread has played Bioshock 2 multiplayer, yet a lot of you seem to think it's going to be some terrible tacked on mode that won't last two weeks. Let's give it a chance before we condemn it right off the bat.
SuitcoatAvenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:29
SuitcoatAvenger
A lot of sound and fury for a mode that will be deserted in about three months. Modern Warfare 2's online multiplayer server issues was worth discussion - people were still playing the original Modern Warfare online regularly up to the release of the sequel, so it obviously had staying power. This? Not so much. The multiplayer is completely supplemental to the main product, and as such, will not have the staying power of the single player campaign. It's like going online in The Darkness or Chronicles of Riddick. Great single player experiences, barren servers.

I understand that it's nice to have the option of playing online the way that you want, but I really think there's a case to be made for stepping back and really picking your fights.
CUDpwns's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:30
CUDpwns
So bioshock 2 multiplayer fails, but singleplayer most likely wins...
yutt's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:38
yutt
@Xzyliac

Nice to see you continue to make vapid, anti-consumer comments. You know that 2K isn't going to give you a prize for taking it in the ass? Why are average Destuctoid readers so fucking ignorant, while proudly championing any company that makes games WORSE.
DanTouchdown's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:39
DanTouchdown
HURRAY for the retarded trend that MW2 set!Hip-hip Hurray!
NateT's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:40
NateT
Bioshock Multiplayer, if good, will be the icing on the cake. Isuspect it will be allot of fun for those who like Bioshock not, who cares.

I have never been a big online gamer. Only a few games have really persuaded me to play online for any length of time, Team Fortress 2 and AvP2. Games like Modern Warfare and Halo's online play have never really gotten me interested. I hope Bioshock will be closer to AvP2 than Halo for me.

"I love listening to people moan about DRM and no dedicated servers. Pc gamer tear's are the sweetest"

Oh it is true.
hornetjockey's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:44
hornetjockey
Bioshock 2 multiplayer is a novelty at best, and no one will be playing it in a year anyway.
TheDirtyHeadband's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:46
TheDirtyHeadband
will having no dedicated servers really make a difference?
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 09:48
Takeshi
@DaedHead8

Yeah, you're right. I don't think it's going to be horrible but I do think people are playing the game for the single-player campaign and therefor not bothering with the online features that long. Except for that select few of course. Just like Uncharted 2 (Don't know the real facts and figures but I base my arguments on people showing up on FNF).
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 10:01
Wedge
I don't think anyone cares. I can't figure out why this has multiplayer in the first place.
IV Backstab MC's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 10:05
IV Backstab MC
Well I play consoles so this doesn't effect me much but this seems to be a trend and its pissin pc gamers off
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2010 10:08
Occams electric toothbrush
@yutt: here's a wet nap if you want to go try to get that sand out of your vagina. It might help your mood a bit.

Also, Bioshock 2 multiplayer is not on my list of reasons I have pre-ordered Bioshock 2.
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