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Game Informer subscribers have leaked the first details of highly anticipated sequel BioShock 2, including the revelation that co-op will be available, and that there will be NO Big Daddies at all. Strap yourself in for full details, and be aware that spoilers lie ahead.

BioShock 2 tells the story of a private investigator named Jack Abbott, whose daughter is kidnapped by the "Big Sister" character as shown on Game Informer's cover. Abbott pursues the creature by boat and confronts her, but is knocked unconscious and awakes in a certain famous underwater city, which is in even worse shape than it was before, thanks to seven years of ruination between this game and the last. 

Things go from bad to worse when a Soviet submarine uncovers Rapture and gets introduced to ADAM -- the precious genetic resource of the first game -- and plan to use it against the Americans in the ensuing Cold War. Jack's forced to defend Rapture and safeguard ADAM from the nefarious Commies. 

[Update: So, apparently this is bunk and the work of some liars who lied. There you go.]

[Update 2: Game Informer has officially and publicly come forth on this, saying the rumors are "so amazingly wrong on a very 'big' point. We would have suggested you read the issue anyhow, and now you have even more of a reason to.]

Russian enemies are said to be far more intelligent than Splicers were, able to use cover and flank players rather than simply running headlong with wrenches in their hands.

There will be a selection of new environments that were unseen in the previous game, including a zoo with a collection of spliced up animals, including a mutated rhino and a giant squid that provides "an epic underwater boss fight." Other enemies include spliced dogs and bipedal robots which Jack will be able to hack for his own use. 

As far as Plasmids go, we have two new ones confirmed. One slows down time for a few seconds, and another, far more intriguing one, is telepathy. Telepathy allows you to listen to the thoughts of NPCs, which can be useful for getting information like keypad combinations and the like. 

Finally, the game will allow for co-op. That's all we know on multiplayer so far. 

What do you think? Do these early details sound good to you? I'm a bit worried, despite my crossed fingers. The plot details sound like they could work, but I'll need to find out more before getting excited. Spliced dogs and rhinos also have potential to be incredibly silly as opposed to scary, so there's that. Co-op and the lack of Big Daddies are two pretty huge things that could dramatically alter the way this game goes.

In short, I don't know what to think. Somebody tell me. 








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Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:32
Colette Bennett
Rant incoming.
lwelyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:34
lwelyk
Ugh, this sounds so bad. Soviets? Seriously?
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:36
funran
.....
Origim's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:36
Origim
I still have hope and yet I'm not 100% convinced this is going to be good. It's early yet and I'll hold my judgment until more details become available.
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:37
Bulkmailer
Sounds fucking awesome, I new all that prequel stuff was bullshit.
Guagloves's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:37
Guagloves
I don't know how I feel about this.
Corican's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:39
Corican
Hmmm...that sounds like it 'could' be good, if they pull it off right.
Still haven't played Bioshock 1 yet...
MrSlippery's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:41
MrSlippery
I'm pensive, but I actually kind of like the idea. The lack of big daddies makes me sad, but I hope these Big Sisters are in plentiful number.

why they'd take out the iconic Big Daddy is beyond me though.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:41
loki d20
What? No Big Sisters?

P.S. Sounds like crap so far, honestly... When in doubt, throw in Russians, Germans, or zombies! Japanese are acceptable as well if you're Activision.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:46
RAB
Wait..this doesn't make sense. Does this game take place before or after the first Bioshock? The whole "seven years of ruination" and "cold war" stuff totally threw me off.

I don't know what to think about this stuff.
ghoti's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:46
ghoti
I'm wondering what the subtext is going to be. The first game had an excellent twist that made you question the control and free will you have (or think you have) in games. I can't imagine they'll be able to pull that one off again, and from the synopsis provided in the article, it sounds like they might not even try.

I'm disappointed that they're setting it in the same location, too. I'd have preferred a sequel that took the themes of the first game and applied them to a different location or culture.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:47
Demtor
Haha! Sure, why not?
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:48
Josh Tolentino
As Colette said, rant incoming.
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:48
BlackFreefall
Spliced up animals are awesome. It's like those epic battle as played in God of War games. (Kraken)

Hoepfully this is more challenging than the first (especially the bosses) because you can practically kill anyone with a wrench in BioShock 1.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:49
Bioautographical
I respected and loved the first game enough to stay my hand and reserve judgment until I see more. Possibly even until I've played it.
zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:50
zombiekiller13
Big Sister/Big Daddy Internet porn now confirmed.
Baskervi11e's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:51
Baskervi11e
There were soviets in the last Indiana Jones movie & look how that turned out +__+
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:55
Bulkmailer
@Baskervi11e
Bioshock isn't a family movie made by retards.
laska's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:56
laska
co-op ! OMG i need this one *_*
Lucca's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:59
Lucca
Don't dismiss it yet. There's still plenty of time.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:00
sickNasty
With these details it sounds like it's going to be more of a standard action game. Fighting ordinary soldiers and giant mutated monsters isn't going to create quite the same atmosphere that the first one did.

I'm not saying it's going to be bad, but it sounds like it won't have the same psychological effect that the first one did.
Infinite Obscurity's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:03
Infinite Obscurity
Goddamn, this sounds lame. Why couldn't they have just left the series alone? Or at least made Bioshock 2 a completely separate story, in a different location with the same themes.
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:04
BlackDove
Oh great, communists. What, we couldn't get the middle eastern people in there as terrorists this time, so we're going for the good old backup-communists?

At least it's not a prequel.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:06
Luigi takes over
This just doesn't make sense. I'm really not liking how this new game is coming along. First some canon issues?

Big sisters? I don't remember any mention of that in the first game. Almost everyone in rapture intelligent enough to engineer a "big sister" is dead to boot. Unless the final boss is you from the first games bad ending. WoOoOoOoOoOo spooooooooooooky. Turrets and bots are everywhere in the game, but the addition of the STEAM POWERED MOBILE SUIT seems a bit out of place.

Next, Russians? Seriously? I think "intelligent" enemies will ruin the pacing. I was always a little intimidated to explore rapture. I was afraid of what lurked around every corner because the atmosphere was so well done. Russians will turn the game into identical firefight after firefight I think. I liked overhearing the splicers crazed babble. A particularly memorable one is in the early part of Bioshock. You stand around a corner from a woman who's talking to what appears to be a dead baby. When you close in on her, she's talking to a gun in a baby carriage.


Finally, the two new plasmids? TIME SLOW, REALLY? HOW GENERIC, CLICHE, AND DOWNRIGHT BORING. I respected the first game because it had some cool powers. A really well made telekinesis attack, various elemental powers, powers to trick enemies into helping and you could fucking shoot bees out of your arms.

Telepathy will be used for specific areas only. Stealth around some guys and use telepathy to get a keycode. Stealth around some guys and use telepathy to find which barrel the key is in. ETC ETC. C'mon, give me something more, thats boring too. Although I do think it'll be humorous when you use it on splicers.

and finally, rapture was leaking pretty bad when you left...=\ how the fuck did it last SEVEN YEARS?

I really don't like this, I hope a trailer changes my mind.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:07
pascuz46
Yeah it sounds pretty good I guess. What makes me sceptical about this game is that you might be going through alot of the exact same envoirnments from the other game, such they might be ruined but there the same thing. And co-op? I dunno how that will work. I will definatly wait for more info to cast critical judgement.
lwelyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:10
lwelyk
"and finally, rapture was leaking pretty bad when you left...=\ how the fuck did it last SEVEN YEARS? "

Silly rabbit, when an underwater city floods, it's not inaccessible, it just opens up new areas.
nukka jdav's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:12
nukka jdav
Why the fuck is everyone freaking out?
ArcticFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:13
ArcticFox
While this wouldnt sound bad in any other context, it sounds bad when put to the setting of Bioshock. The first game was amazing because of the splicers and the insanity of the underwater city. In another game this might be fine actually, but in th context of Bioshock, it cheapens the first game by making this into a more cliched and formulaic shooter. The plasmids Im sure will still keep it interesting, and it might be nice to see if any Splicers are still left, but as for Russians that can flank and try to use tactics against me? It could be interesting, but it doesnt fit the first games aesthetic. A large part of the problem is that they realistically cant bring back Big Daddies, unless they have more little sisters. And they closed that story out with the end of the first game. Unfortunately, this doesnt scream Bioshock to me, rather it screams "generic" to me. I will still hold further judgment until after I read the magazine for myself, but this makes me a bit nervous.
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:15
Bulkmailer
@everybody complaining about Russians
Cold War=weapons race=holy shit they got ADAM.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:16
Timmeh
Haha, sounds like utter shit so far. Guess that's what you get from a needless sequel though.
SPY-V's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:16
SPY-V
wow. now that puts a twist on things. I am stocked for this game I bought a 360 just to play it.I just played it again on my PS3. I need this sooner than later.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:19
Kif
Can you say April Fools?
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:20
gatorsax2010
To echo everyone else: Russians? In my Bioshock? Sounds more like Call of Dutyshock: World War Rapture. The splicers genuinely creep me out. Russians? Not so much.

And maybe I should withhold judgment on this part until I see how it's implemented, and I know it's in vogue right now, but not every game needs co-op.
The Big Bad Wolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:21
The Big Bad Wolf
Slowing down time = Max Payne underwater
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:21
Bulkmailer
@Kif
Damn it I forgot about that.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:21
silvain
I lol'ed. They're making army of two cross RE5.

This sounds as generic and poor as the original pitch for bioshock. You know, the fight nazis on a desert island pitch.
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:22
Luigi takes over
@bulkmailer

So the russians are driving along in their submarine and just happen to see a decaying, dead, disheveled underwater ruin and they think to themselves...

"LETS GO IN THERE MUST BE POWERZ IN THERE :D"
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:24
Bulkmailer
@Luigi
Hell yes.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:25
mrplow8
Wasn't Jack also the name of the main character in the first Bioshock? Is it confirmed that you're playing as a different character in this one? Maybe you're still Jack from the first one and that's why the Big Sister kidnaps your daughter.

Also, I hope in co-op you're teamed up with some Native American chick, and you can unlock a Pocahontas like Indian costume for her to wear.
Mr Wrighty 987's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:31
Mr Wrighty 987
lol fail
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:32
SephirothX
I think this sounds alot better than the first Bioshock, it has pulled in my interest. And this is coming from a person who hates the first Bioshock and thinks Bioshock was one of the most overrated games of the decade.
jsutcliffe's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:34
jsutcliffe
The more I read about Bioshock 2, the worse it sounds. I'm still interested, but I'm extremely skeptical.
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:36
BlackDove
"I think this sounds alot better than the first Bioshock, it has pulled in my interest. And this is coming from a person who hates the first Bioshock and thinks Bioshock was one of the most overrated games of the decade."

Makes sense you'd like this default drivel shit then.
flabzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:37
flabzilla
Coop you say? Well I have become interested in this game again.
peeetah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:38
peeetah
Oh gawd.
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:45
falinter
More information is needed to form opinion.
garrfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:47
garrfunkel
I think it sounds quite other than the Co-op thing. The story doesn't sound as shit as I was expecting it to be and I do want to go back to rapture so I'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

The big sister thing may also be tripe but again we'll see how it pans out. Really the if you sum up Bioshock in a similar manner it doesnt sound as amazing as it actually is. It wasnt until more and more details emerged that it began to seem good.
BigPopaGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:48
BigPopaGamer
They should have left it alone. Bioshock was an amazing game with one of the best plots to come from a game in many years. The story was complete, it didn't need all of these additions. This kind of thing makes me angry. GRRRR.
nukka jdav's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:50
nukka jdav
Again...why is everyone freaking the fuck out?

We know the basic setup and have seen NOTHING. I guess that gives every reason to panic.
pezking6983's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 10:54
pezking6983
Not a fan so far. This could work in theory. I have a feeling this sequel will be decent, but not impacting like its predecessor. The game will most likely be mindless fun that will be missing the deep thinking of the story involved in the first Bioshock.
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