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That....sucks. It's something you wouldn't really think about until your wifi drops or, as you said, PSN goes down.
Why would they do this to a game that can already be downloaded (in theory) on 5 different PS3's?
Skipping this title.
Skipping this title.
HAHAHA
It will be funny when all console games have DRM. :)
I will be soaking up all the irony and tears.
It will be funny when all console games have DRM. :)
I will be soaking up all the irony and tears.
I'm glad I have a 360 as well as PS3. Xbox version for me, even if my 360 will inevitably red ring AGAIN in the future.
Boycott. Or wait until it goes on sale for $10 like it should have been in the first place on Xbox 360.
I'm assuming they'll patch it out in about a year, a bit like Ubisoft has chosen to do with their DRM. Just imagine though: if they didn't, when the PSN in its current form eventually vanishes many, many years from now, this game would cease to exist.
Even though that scenario will likely never happen, I'd still not like to be the guy whose internet conks out the moment he's about to beat a particularly hard level.
Even though that scenario will likely never happen, I'd still not like to be the guy whose internet conks out the moment he's about to beat a particularly hard level.
Wasn't anyone paying attention to ubisoft when they tried this on the PC and all their games tanked as a result?
putting DRM that hampers a paying customer is basically committing suicide. Hope they weren't expecting this to sell.
putting DRM that hampers a paying customer is basically committing suicide. Hope they weren't expecting this to sell.
Almost bought this today, really liked the first one.
Does it require a persistent connection as long as you're playing or is it only when you launch the game?
My net craps out on me frequently at home and if that affects me when I'm in the middle of a game then they can f right off, if I just need a connection to boot the game then I can live w that. I shouldn't have to, but I guess I can.
Does it require a persistent connection as long as you're playing or is it only when you launch the game?
My net craps out on me frequently at home and if that affects me when I'm in the middle of a game then they can f right off, if I just need a connection to boot the game then I can live w that. I shouldn't have to, but I guess I can.
lol @ console drm. Definitely a lost sale here. Had such potential too, so silly of capcom to pull this stunt again.
I don't know why this is causing people who were actually going to buy the game to not anymore. Obviously if you're buying a PSN game, you have an internet connection so it's no hassle to be connected to the internet when you start up the game. It's not even like you have to keep a constant connection the entire time you're playing. What's the big deal?
I don't know why this is causing people who were actually going to buy the game to not anymore. Obviously if you're buying a PSN game, you have an internet connection so it's no hassle to be connected to the internet when you start up the game. It's not even like you have to keep a constant connection the entire time you're playing. What's the big deal?
@Astalano
I'm not going to argue with anyone. I just wanted to state my opinion on the situation. I probably won't even reply anymore.
I'm not going to argue with anyone. I just wanted to state my opinion on the situation. I probably won't even reply anymore.
This crap is so stupid!
Way to go Capcom! Us innocent gamers out here that actually PAY for your games really love being treated like this. I hope nobody buys this effin game on any platform to stick it to them.
Sometimes I get the idea that there are too many decision-making people at Capcom with absolutely NO CLUE, was this really the ONLY way to do this? Someone please help them get their heads out of their asses!
If this continues with future Capcom releases I will be devastated and definitely be buying less of whatever they try to sell. Goddammit.
Way to go Capcom! Us innocent gamers out here that actually PAY for your games really love being treated like this. I hope nobody buys this effin game on any platform to stick it to them.
Sometimes I get the idea that there are too many decision-making people at Capcom with absolutely NO CLUE, was this really the ONLY way to do this? Someone please help them get their heads out of their asses!
If this continues with future Capcom releases I will be devastated and definitely be buying less of whatever they try to sell. Goddammit.
@mix
Precisely because of this. Requiring the connection you ensure that only the guy who bought it can play at once.
That said, I have 2 ps3. one for me, one for my brother. I have my account on his PS3. Am I pirate scum for not paying twice for a game that will be played at the same house? Sometimes I take advantage of it by playing games that didn't add splitscreen because it wouldn't be "the perfect experience".
I enjoyed the first BCR a lot, and played split screen with my brother. Even that would't be possible now, as my internet connection sucks, and I tent to lose contact with the PSN every hour or so, subsequently getting it back. But it would mean to get booted from the game in this example. So, ok fuck you.
I would be ok if the game sharing wasnt availale from the start. It would mean that I'd buy a lot less games, as I sometimes perceive as paying "half" even if my brother don't chip in.
But I can understand their side. every copy can be played on 5 ps3 with no extra money. people just offer to share over the net, and some scum create accounts, buys the games and sell the accounts at profit on ebay, as they would sell the game, getting 2-3 times the value.
So yeah. It sucks for me, it sucks for them, for everyone. Go figure what to do now.
Precisely because of this. Requiring the connection you ensure that only the guy who bought it can play at once.
That said, I have 2 ps3. one for me, one for my brother. I have my account on his PS3. Am I pirate scum for not paying twice for a game that will be played at the same house? Sometimes I take advantage of it by playing games that didn't add splitscreen because it wouldn't be "the perfect experience".
I enjoyed the first BCR a lot, and played split screen with my brother. Even that would't be possible now, as my internet connection sucks, and I tent to lose contact with the PSN every hour or so, subsequently getting it back. But it would mean to get booted from the game in this example. So, ok fuck you.
I would be ok if the game sharing wasnt availale from the start. It would mean that I'd buy a lot less games, as I sometimes perceive as paying "half" even if my brother don't chip in.
But I can understand their side. every copy can be played on 5 ps3 with no extra money. people just offer to share over the net, and some scum create accounts, buys the games and sell the accounts at profit on ebay, as they would sell the game, getting 2-3 times the value.
So yeah. It sucks for me, it sucks for them, for everyone. Go figure what to do now.
"I'm not going to argue with anyone. I just wanted to state my opinion on the situation. I probably won't even reply anymore."
translation "la la la.... not listening.. la la la" (with fingers in ears)
The reason why this is bullshit is because there are PLENTY of reasons internet goes down, let alone PSN. Add in the fact I routinely bring my consoles to other places from my house, usually places that don't have internet, and there's less than 0% chance I'll buy it.
translation "la la la.... not listening.. la la la" (with fingers in ears)
The reason why this is bullshit is because there are PLENTY of reasons internet goes down, let alone PSN. Add in the fact I routinely bring my consoles to other places from my house, usually places that don't have internet, and there's less than 0% chance I'll buy it.
Also, I will be extra careful on reading capcom's games summaries from now on. Almost bought BCR2 yesterday on a whim.
@ Zwicki
Because you are no longer "buying", you are long-term "renting".
At least they fessed up beforehand this time, but this type thing needs to stop. No one really gives a shit about BC2 in the long run, but if I were to lose the ability to play a classic (like, say, Demon's Souls) years down the road, I would need to hurt someone. It's such horseshit, and would actually ENCOURAGE me towards piracy. It's no wonder piracy is so rampant on PC, after years of dealing with this fuck-stain cuntery
Because you are no longer "buying", you are long-term "renting".
At least they fessed up beforehand this time, but this type thing needs to stop. No one really gives a shit about BC2 in the long run, but if I were to lose the ability to play a classic (like, say, Demon's Souls) years down the road, I would need to hurt someone. It's such horseshit, and would actually ENCOURAGE me towards piracy. It's no wonder piracy is so rampant on PC, after years of dealing with this fuck-stain cuntery
Thank God this isn't on the 360 version. My WiFi dongle takes about 10 mins to 'walm up' before it starts to work, I'm not waiting that long with the console on to play an arcade game. Won't buy hardware off eBay again, thats for sure.
Don't like it?
Don't buy it!
Drm hasn't been put into the game to piss anybody off. Or do you think the guys at capcom are laughing into their monitors because dey trololololed u?
Don't buy it!
Drm hasn't been put into the game to piss anybody off. Or do you think the guys at capcom are laughing into their monitors because dey trololololed u?
>Don't like it?
>Don't buy it!
*looks at the previous comments* Uummmmmm, yeah, I think they got that part.
>Don't buy it!
*looks at the previous comments* Uummmmmm, yeah, I think they got that part.
That especially sucks for me bc the cable company is "updating" their tech around here and so my connection has been shitty for the past month. Guess I'll be waiting to get this game until shit smoothes out.
@Zwiki
Honestly man, it's not a big deal to sign on to start the game. But to me, being required to connect to the net JUST to play is like having to ask permission to play a game I have already paid for and more or less "own". If the DRM is eventually patched out it would become desirable to me.
Let's say I buy the game and lose my job, it happens to people from time to time. If I decide to forego internet service in order to pay rent and put food on my table all of a sudden I am not allowed to play a game I have purchased?! I realize this won't apply to the majority, it's just an example.
Put simply, I am and always will be a person that feels if I spend my hard-earned money on a product I should be able to use that product in darn near any way I please as long as I'm not breaking the law. That includes being able to use said product anytime I want to with no restrictions.
It feels like Capcom is saying "Don't blame us if you can't play our great new game that you PAID US FOR. Blame the pirates or blame your internet connection, it's not our fault"
DOWN WITH DRM!!
Honestly man, it's not a big deal to sign on to start the game. But to me, being required to connect to the net JUST to play is like having to ask permission to play a game I have already paid for and more or less "own". If the DRM is eventually patched out it would become desirable to me.
Let's say I buy the game and lose my job, it happens to people from time to time. If I decide to forego internet service in order to pay rent and put food on my table all of a sudden I am not allowed to play a game I have purchased?! I realize this won't apply to the majority, it's just an example.
Put simply, I am and always will be a person that feels if I spend my hard-earned money on a product I should be able to use that product in darn near any way I please as long as I'm not breaking the law. That includes being able to use said product anytime I want to with no restrictions.
It feels like Capcom is saying "Don't blame us if you can't play our great new game that you PAID US FOR. Blame the pirates or blame your internet connection, it's not our fault"
DOWN WITH DRM!!
Uh.. 360 doesn't have this DRM because all XBLA games already do a very similar thing so I don't see why people are praising 360. XBLA games are linked to a specific console load your profile onto another 360 and you can't play any of those games without internet (or XBL).
This PSN DRM is only slightly more restricting.
This PSN DRM is only slightly more restricting.
This, like every form of DRM ever, is unacceptable. There's a rason I don't buy PC games unless I can get around this shit first, but you can't do that for PS3 games.
There's NO EXCUSE for requiring permission to play something I spend money on.
There's NO EXCUSE for requiring permission to play something I spend money on.
this doesn't hurt the pirates in one way. its just one more company knowing whats best for their company, but it really isn't.
DeusPayne and CBunn provide even more examples of how this negatively impacts innocent gamers and restricts their gameplay ability. CBunn even made a good point FOR this crap, well done guys. I didn't even know you could share DLC amongst several PSs....that just seemed like a bad idea from the start if you're the companies that don't believe in sharing. Yeah, EFF YOU people that feel a household with 3 gamers needs 3 copies of the same damn game. If they want to play at the same time with/against each other, that's different and they should have 3 copies. But if you have 2 brothers and want to let 1 play your BCR DLC while your signed in on another console playing something else you should damn well be able to imo. There's a BIG difference between making copies of games to redistribute them and simply letting someone borrow/play your game. I just wish the latter gamers weren't punished for the former's actions.
AaronSTC also made a great point about the 360 consoles. I was quite shocked to learn that I could not access my 200+ Rock Band DLC content unless I was connected to xbox live when I took my HD over to a friend's for game night, but that is remedied by simply bringing my whole console instead of just the HD. So yes, many devs use some form of this tactic and I'm not entirely opposed to it. But this PSN DRM is just so much more restrictive it's ridiculous imo.
AaronSTC also made a great point about the 360 consoles. I was quite shocked to learn that I could not access my 200+ Rock Band DLC content unless I was connected to xbox live when I took my HD over to a friend's for game night, but that is remedied by simply bringing my whole console instead of just the HD. So yes, many devs use some form of this tactic and I'm not entirely opposed to it. But this PSN DRM is just so much more restrictive it's ridiculous imo.
I had planned to get this game today actually, but now I won't. Connecting to PSN is always so finicky for me and screws with the connections of other devices I own, so I often leave the connection off on my PS3. But if that means I can't play a game I bought, why would I want it?
@AaronStC
"Uh.. 360 doesn't have this DRM because all XBLA games already do a very similar thing so I don't see why people are praising 360. XBLA games are linked to a specific console load your profile onto another 360 and you can't play any of those games without internet (or XBL)."
Yeah, but once I download it on my 360, I never have to connect to the internet again and I can play it until the end of time. With the PSN version, I have to be connected every time I want to play the game. Pretty big difference.
"Uh.. 360 doesn't have this DRM because all XBLA games already do a very similar thing so I don't see why people are praising 360. XBLA games are linked to a specific console load your profile onto another 360 and you can't play any of those games without internet (or XBL)."
Yeah, but once I download it on my 360, I never have to connect to the internet again and I can play it until the end of time. With the PSN version, I have to be connected every time I want to play the game. Pretty big difference.
@Astalano :"It will be funny when all console games have DRM. :)"
Start laughing about, oh, 30 years ago. The entire POINT (from the manufacturer's view) of a console is DRM.
Start laughing about, oh, 30 years ago. The entire POINT (from the manufacturer's view) of a console is DRM.
@Everyone
Well I'm certainly not saying that it should be there. My statement was more towards the people who were actually looking forward to it coming out and then not buying it because of probable events in the future.
Well I'm certainly not saying that it should be there. My statement was more towards the people who were actually looking forward to it coming out and then not buying it because of probable events in the future.
@cbunn
Makes sense but it does hurt people (like you) and even me....
I also own two PS3, one in the bedroom and one in the living room. My account is on both systems as we don't buy anything under my GF's account, it's just easier to manage that way. We play Borderlands online co-op together and stuff like this doesn't fly for me.
Makes sense but it does hurt people (like you) and even me....
I also own two PS3, one in the bedroom and one in the living room. My account is on both systems as we don't buy anything under my GF's account, it's just easier to manage that way. We play Borderlands online co-op together and stuff like this doesn't fly for me.
Haggar Stashed spencer is ashamed in all of you.
That stashe does grant the wearer the ability to do instant piledrivers...I'm just sayin, lock your doors.
That stashe does grant the wearer the ability to do instant piledrivers...I'm just sayin, lock your doors.
It saddens me that so few gamers understand the implications of DRM. Without a PSN connection, this game is nothing more than wasted space on a hard drive. There will come a time when the PSN is nothing like it is now or Sony pulls the plug on it for a newer service and, at that point, this game is dead on your drive. Think about that. If I could get a refund in the event of the PSN's demise, then maybe. Otherwise, no thanks. Luckily, Capcom no longer creates games that I like, so this is a non-issue for me.
DRM for a console game makes little sense to me. The whole point of console games are that you can play them offline or away from your PC.
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