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Beware foreigners! Super Paper Mario can destroy you! photo

Well, he can destroy your Wii at the very least. That sentence should make you shiver in terror all on its own. Per an announcement made today, the glory that is Super Paper Mario works just fine for US consoles, but attemping play on a PAL or Japanese Wii without the proper upgrades can make you the proud owner of a shiny white brick. Here's the complete skinny:

We just became aware of an issue with Super Paper Mario that has just been released in the USA. It works fine on US consoles. But if you want to play this game on a PAL or Japanese Wii, be it from an original disc or a backup, make sure you upgrade your Wii firmware to the latest available version before inserting the game.

The game contains an NTSC-U Wii update that is not compatible with early European and Japanese Wii firmwares. Failure to upgrade your Wii with the latest firmware before running Super Paper Mario USA on an import system can result in a bricked Wii.

This issue is not specific to CycloWiz, you'll have the same problem with any other region free mods/tricks. It doesn't brick the chip, but the Wii itself, so be very careful! 

Yikes, that kind of sucks. On top of sad stories of delayed console releases and massively expensive game pricing, now overseas gamers with mod chips have to run the risk of destroying their consoles in a moment of carelessness. Are just barely better Virtual Console releases all our neighbors have to write home about? On the other hand, I suppose a country that has the Virtual Girlfriend Lap isn't exactly phased by something as ordinary as the occasional busted console. 

[Via CycloWiz and mad props to Hushgush for the pic] 








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Zaron's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:22
Zaron
I haven't even read the article, but that pic is awesome.
Cokeman170's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:23
Cokeman170
god damn stan...
Danzuke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:25
Danzuke
that's the risk you're gonna run by modding a system to be region free
The CronoLink's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:26
The CronoLink
Wow, you actually beat Summa to this new, Colette. XD
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:26
Gameboi
Yowsers! I usually depend on Nintendo go through a thorough quality control with their products. Guess they can't catch everything.

Nintendo Bricking consoles? What's the world coming to ? ;-)
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:30
Joseph Leray
Yeah, Nintendo bricking *chipped* consoles. I don't feel too bad.
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:37
Aaron Linde
Holy god, Nintendo isn't bricking chipped consoles. Software and firmware updates designed for a NTSC system are not meant to run on a PAL console. But if you have a modded system and run NTSC software with NTSC patches and you're dumb enough to brick your system, that's what you get. This ain't Nintendo's doing.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:38
Magesx
It's all Sony's fault for encouraging this kind of behavior.

Or something.
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:44
deiga-the-semivaliant
Goddammit. FUCK SONY. THEY RUIN EVERYTHING!!!
Artadius's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/12/2007 23:47
Artadius
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... Nintendo killed my modded Wii... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
subnet6's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 00:11
subnet6
My guess is that if someone has enough ability to hack their Wii, they probably know enough to have firmware updates. If they choose to avoid them, then they get the horns. Besides, isn't modding a console to be region free known to be inherently risky?
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 00:35
Joseph Leray
@Aaron : I'm a sad panda that my sarcasm was lost in the tubes. :(
MusashiX2's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 01:25
MusashiX2
this doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary to me. if the Wii was region free like the psp and ps3, then i am quite sure it wouldn't matter where the firmware updates are coming from. i think i remember updating my psp to 1.52 firmware when i imported Bomberman: Panic Bomber and nothing bad happened (except for the fact that i realized the error of my ways and downgraded back to magical 1.5 firmware). i doubt this is the biggest concern to modders right now. the big question is whether or not Nintendo will be able to detect the modchips in future firmware upgrades and disable them. once it seems like that is not going to happen, i will be a proud owner of a "Wiinja" or whatever stupid name they give the chips now.
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 02:36
Aaron Linde
Not you, Orcist. Gameboi. Unless he was being sarcastic, in which case my anger was more or less indirect and pre-emptive. Ah, the power of excuses!
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 02:51
Joseph Leray
I particularly enjoy the internet's ability to convey the subtleties of the English language.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 04:39
Burnt Meatloaf
So, Nintendo isn't performing CRC checks before messing with firmware? Naughty naughty.

Really, that's just stupid design.
kaoru's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 05:29
kaoru
"just barely better Virtual Console releases" isn't even true any more :( We still don't have Starfox 64/Lylat Wars :(
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 05:46
wardrox
Uh oh, I sence a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of fanboys cried out "Nintendo broke their console!" at once, but were suddenly silenced when they actually RTFA.
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 06:36
TorpedoTed
haha wardrox rocks!
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 07:19
Aaron Mxy Yost
Serves them right for importing games. That leads directly to communism.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 07:27
BlindsideDork
Wait I thought games from other countries can't work on each other's systems?
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 07:35
Aaron Mxy Yost
@ BlindsideDork:

You can't, this is just happening to people who modded their consoles to be region free. The game tries to install the latest version of the Wii firmware, but if you've got a PAL or Japanese system that hasn't already been updated, the NTSC-US update bricks the system.
subnet6's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 07:38
subnet6
Anyone else notice how this is somewhat negative news about nintendo and nobody attacked the messenger? Maybe it really IS a problem with Summa and his rancid delivery, rather than what he claims it to be: rabid fanboys who attack anyone who says something negative about the Wii. Think about it.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 07:45
Aaron Mxy Yost
@ subnet6:

It's because the trolling has gotten beyond old, and people are sick of it. :)
Lolthien's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 08:28
Lolthien
You know I've asked this question in just about every major gaming site I can think of. But Destructoid peeps seem at least SLIGHTLY smarter than your average poster on Gamespot Forums so here goes.

Why in god's name can't we chip our consoles.. mod our consoles... edit whatever the hell we want with them. We can mod our cars (Just ask any ricer) or PCs or DVD players if we wanted. We've bought the hardware why, legally, can't we do whatever the hell we want with it?

I realize there are a lot of people chipping consoles in order to play burned games or whatever... but turning the OG Xbox into a media center with a chip doesn't seem to be all that detrimental to world society.

I've never actually chipped a console, simply because if I did it wrong I don't have the 400 bucks to replace it with. But everywhere I go I see this really raw sort of disgust with people who mod their consoles, like they've stolen them, or deserve whatever they get the filthy pervs (ie: Orcist's comment at about six in above). Is that reaction really called for or is it something that's just been reinforced by the console makers to keep control over their systems after they've been sold to the consumer?

Again, just a question, curious as to people's thoughts on it.
Vyruz's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 08:30
Vyruz
I ghues that's why they are taking so long to release Super Paper Mario in europe.
but why put a NTSC update on a game when you know it's also going to the PAL regions, phe.

I wish they made up their minds and gave a release dat already, I can't Wait to get my hands on it.
S2BEuropean ¬_¬
Artadius's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 09:37
Artadius
Lolthien: You can do whatever you want with your console. You just run the risk of losing out on support for officially released products which require unmodified hardware. You run this same risk when you add hardware or modify the software of your PC... or modify your car. There's always a chance that what you're doing might have adverse effects. Is that Nintendo's fault? No... because it was a risk the user took.

There's no evidence that Nintendo purposefully did this in order to brick modded PAL/J consoles (not saying you're implying this...but just heading off any potential counter argument). If, in the future, they do it on purpose... well, that's another topic in which I still think they are ultimately justified to do whatever they wish to do with the software they make... just as we are free to do whatever we wish with the hardware we own.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 09:55
AngelsDontBurn
That picture is awesome!
PetiePalo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 10:52
PetiePalo
Could have been easily avoidable is the Wii was region free like the DS. Why didn't they do that again? Then Niero could play all the weird asian games to his heart's content!
MusashiX2's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 12:09
MusashiX2
@Lolthien

i think if every business had their way, they would have it so you buy their product but it would still technically belong to them. that way you couldn't do shit to it. i think i remember a court case in either Europe or Australia questioning whether the end user actually "owns" the product they buy in every way. from the company's perspective, they don't wanna waste time solving problems that were caused by the user. i have heard a story about some one sending in a 360 that had obviously been opened and warranty voided because it was painted and had LEDs, but MS still fixed it. i like hearing things like that, but i doubt it happened. if it did, then that's great. the companies just want their product to be played the way it was originally intended to and that is it. if the modding community comes up with something amazing like XBMC, then the company will still try to stop it and will probably just take ideas from the modders for future uses.

now, as for people on the internet looking down upon people with modchips... i just think that stems from jealousy and/or inferiority. so many people (not all, mind you) wanna feel l33t when they're on the internet. when a person who has bought every game they own hears that one dude has a ton of ripped games, imported games, and a custom paint/light mod i think they get jealous sometimes. i have seen so many people make some messed up remarks towards others because of piracy. they put themselves on a pedestal and act all high and mighty, when in reality i bet they would mod their consoles and do the same if they had the know-how or the courage to do it.
Brandon Undead's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/13/2007 13:56
Brandon Undead
Wii + Modchip = Asplode + Oh N03S!! x (infinity)

I bricked my 360 modding it a couple weeks ago. Because I'm a RETARD!

Always consult the brilliance of the mod community before following a chip manufacturer's guides!

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