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How about no false advertising and fucking penalties for doing so? Swear I've heard something like that before.... Hrmmmm.
Lulz. Good maybe companies will talk actually following through on their completely bullshit promises.
http://www.aconsumerfraudlawyer.com/false-advertising/
Maybe its time to hold game companies to the same standards as other companies. As much as I'm enjoying 3, I think this has been needed for awhile. I can hold Target accountable for their bs, why not a game company?
Maybe its time to hold game companies to the same standards as other companies. As much as I'm enjoying 3, I think this has been needed for awhile. I can hold Target accountable for their bs, why not a game company?
NickCull: that's exactly what I said when I emailed this to a friend. I didnt like the ending but this seems extreme. I thought the ads were more fluff than I expected from a Bioware ad but no more so than the average video game marketing speak. Huh.
Can we pass by the Mass Effect 3 discussion and talk about Elmer instead?
No? Anyone?
All right, I'll just go then.
No? Anyone?
All right, I'll just go then.
Think Capcom is more deserving a message from the BBB, over Bioware/EA for ME3, since that extra content will at least be free... well, now it's free after all that butt-hurt...
I thought you were done talking about ME3, Jim. ;)
Anyways, I hope this whole backlash and shitawards they received make them come to their senses if only a little.
Anyways, I hope this whole backlash and shitawards they received make them come to their senses if only a little.
I loved Mass Effect 3, but they really did tarnish the game. It seems so rushed overall, definitely the weakest of the three.
Well done to the person who filed this complaint. This is more proof of how much EA and Bioware ar liars,The Cunts.
Yeah at first I felt sorry for EA over this, then California ruled that a game store can be sued for things EA did (like online pass) as "false advertising."
So turnabout is fair play, Casey Hudson promised the moon, after all.
So turnabout is fair play, Casey Hudson promised the moon, after all.
Looks like that guy who made the complaint got the last laugh against all of us who thought he was a crazy fool.
It's worth pointing out that the Better Business Bureau is a scam of an organization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Business_Bureau#Criticism
I appreciate that Bioware may not have delivered on it's promises and should possibly be made accountable (the new DLC ending should suffice), but I still disagree with the way that too many disgruntled fans went about getting what they wanted. EA may have ruffled feathers in their many years, but they and Bioware don't deserve this kind of crap, and especially don't deserve the new moniker "Worst Company of the Year". Too far guys, too far.
I wasn't expecting that to actually work. Well, alright. I think it's time to fine them. Fine them far up the ass, please.
Honestly this might be a good thing in the long run. Maybe now game companies will actually start thinking about their words and actions before doing something stupid. I'm looking at you Capcom. In the build up to launch, Casey Hudson made claims about the ending of the game that were demonstrably false. Also, since he seems to be the main architect behind the ending of Mass Effect 3 made a conscious and willful effort to deceive potential consumers about the mechanics of the ending.
Truth be told, the actual ending is becoming irrelevant in this horrible clusterfuck of a mess. EA and Bioware have both pulled some dick moves, but they should go ahead and fire their entire PR/Marketing wing. Their PR/Marketing people clearly have no idea what they are doing. Bad PR has caused fan disappointment to spiral into what we see here before us.
Truth be told, the actual ending is becoming irrelevant in this horrible clusterfuck of a mess. EA and Bioware have both pulled some dick moves, but they should go ahead and fire their entire PR/Marketing wing. Their PR/Marketing people clearly have no idea what they are doing. Bad PR has caused fan disappointment to spiral into what we see here before us.
Molyneux better watch his ass! If his next game doesn't "change the world," he's going to be in big trouble!
Seriously, though, I can't really get behind this. Casey Hudson did lie through his teeth about a couple of things (specifically what kind of ending we'd get), but this is the game industry. More lies and hyperbole are thrown around among gamers and developers than between two transvestites trying to reassure each other of their masculinity. You should always take things with a grain of salt. Skepticism is a virtue, my friends.
Seriously, though, I can't really get behind this. Casey Hudson did lie through his teeth about a couple of things (specifically what kind of ending we'd get), but this is the game industry. More lies and hyperbole are thrown around among gamers and developers than between two transvestites trying to reassure each other of their masculinity. You should always take things with a grain of salt. Skepticism is a virtue, my friends.
Wait, so if you're going to explicitly advertise a product that will offer a certain experience, you should actually follow through? Who the fuck would've thought of that?
Now they should be punished! Every copy of Mass Effect should read "An epic trilogy in which you make some choices that don't really matter, and it isn't really an RPG."
But seriously, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. I believe in reporting false advertising to the BBB, but not on this level. What this amounts to is an exaggeration, which only comes across as false advertising when taken as an absolute. Hopefully there are no repercussions for this stupid filing, if there are then gaming as we know it is royally screwed.
Gone will be the days when developers tell you about new features in their games for fear of being reported as false advertising. Peter Molyneux will be fined into poverty, "Better with Kinect" will bankrupt Microsoft and Nintendo will cease to exist for claiming "innovation" by re-purposing existing technology.
But seriously, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. I believe in reporting false advertising to the BBB, but not on this level. What this amounts to is an exaggeration, which only comes across as false advertising when taken as an absolute. Hopefully there are no repercussions for this stupid filing, if there are then gaming as we know it is royally screwed.
Gone will be the days when developers tell you about new features in their games for fear of being reported as false advertising. Peter Molyneux will be fined into poverty, "Better with Kinect" will bankrupt Microsoft and Nintendo will cease to exist for claiming "innovation" by re-purposing existing technology.
The hell? This is escalating?
Checked ME3's site, and I have to agree with the claims. I think devs need to stop treating their promises like they've ripped them from the High Concept.
If in the end they still don't match your product, due to whatever snag you hit or corners you cut, you've given your customer the wrong information.
Checked ME3's site, and I have to agree with the claims. I think devs need to stop treating their promises like they've ripped them from the High Concept.
If in the end they still don't match your product, due to whatever snag you hit or corners you cut, you've given your customer the wrong information.
I genuinely love how everybody immediately goes "Molyneaux is screwed"
Right now he's shitting his pants because he just remembered Fable: The Journey is still on rails.
Right now he's shitting his pants because he just remembered Fable: The Journey is still on rails.
Hey guys, let's report Bungie for saying that Halo 3 would "Finish the Fight". Since Halo 4 is right around the corner they were obviously lying, what a bunch of cocks.
@TheNephilym
"Seriously, though, I can't really get behind this. Casey Hudson did lie through his teeth about a couple of things (specifically what kind of ending we'd get), but this is the game industry."
I definitely see where you are coming from. We all like to have our jokes at Peter Molyneux's expense and no one takes anything he says seriously, but some companies are taking these liberties entirely too far. Bioware seems to be the one holding the hot potato, deserved or not. Gamers have come to expect this from EA and Capcom, but they expect better from Bioware. When Bioware acts badly, some interpret it as a personal betrayal instead of just bad business.
"Seriously, though, I can't really get behind this. Casey Hudson did lie through his teeth about a couple of things (specifically what kind of ending we'd get), but this is the game industry."
I definitely see where you are coming from. We all like to have our jokes at Peter Molyneux's expense and no one takes anything he says seriously, but some companies are taking these liberties entirely too far. Bioware seems to be the one holding the hot potato, deserved or not. Gamers have come to expect this from EA and Capcom, but they expect better from Bioware. When Bioware acts badly, some interpret it as a personal betrayal instead of just bad business.
@jebussaves88: I don't care how it came about, accountability is something that should be enforced by us onto these publishers and devs. That you don't like this makes me wonder what is wrong with you mentally that you care about a company like it is your neighbor.
Note: I hate Mass Effect, never even played 3 and could care less about all the hoorah with the ending. I'm just glad to see EA get shit on because of all the other crap they've pulled. Hopefully more follows for the other publisher culprits.
Note: I hate Mass Effect, never even played 3 and could care less about all the hoorah with the ending. I'm just glad to see EA get shit on because of all the other crap they've pulled. Hopefully more follows for the other publisher culprits.
Pretty sure every major gaming company is guilty of "not choosing their words carefully" when advertising their games. Not saying it's right, but to single out Bioware and EA, all due once again to that fucking ending, is unfair.
@TheRemix
Speaking of which...
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Capcom-Better-Business-Bureau-Rating-Drops-Due-DLC-Fiasco-41305.html#disqus_thread
Speaking of which...
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Capcom-Better-Business-Bureau-Rating-Drops-Due-DLC-Fiasco-41305.html#disqus_thread
EA was ranked the worst coproration of 2011, I still don't understand that. aren't there worse corporations that have more power to do bad than EA?
and who cares about the advertising being "misleading", video game advertising has ALWAYS been choked in hyperbole. click link for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3rPDZm_1rI
and who cares about the advertising being "misleading", video game advertising has ALWAYS been choked in hyperbole. click link for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3rPDZm_1rI
This also fights against the fact that video games are supposed to be considered as an art form. This makes it more like video games are supposed to be products that works as advertised. And while they technically should, its more of something like "They said its an RPG, but this is an platformer!", not "They said this is an epic space-adventure....I dont think its epic enough". Its all about taste and opinions and you can never, ever satisfy everyone.
Although it has "Bureau" in its title, the Better Business Bureau is not affiliated with federal, state, or local government, and has no direct affiliation with any consumer protection government authority. The BBB, as a privately held corporation, has no governmental authority over businesses.
That's from the wikipedia page for the BBB. Nothing is going to happen to them
That's from the wikipedia page for the BBB. Nothing is going to happen to them
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