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Bethesda VP assures that Fallout 3 is 'better' than Oblivion photo

One of the most oft heard complaints from cantankerous Fallout fans is the expectation that Bethesda is shaping Fallout 3 into nothing more than a soulless Oblivion clone. Never mind that these “fans” haven’t even played the game yet, but hey, they obviously know best.

Bethesda vice president Pete Hines has decided to weigh in on the matter; letting gamers know that even if Fallout 3 ends up being an Oblivion clone, it’ll still be better than Oblivion was: hopefully suggesting that the dialogue will be recorded by more than four voice actors.

“I don’t have any doubts that on the whole, and I think this is a belief universally shared on the team that Fallout is a better game, but we’re also not oblivious to the fact that we have a lot of extra baggage that we’re carrying, being the guys picking up this franchise, that are re-imagining this series from 10 years ago, and there’s something that comes along with that. We’re very well aware of what we’re up against.”

“I have no doubts in my mind that, at its core and for everything that it provides that Fallout [3] is a better game than Oblivion was- for sure.”

I assumed Fallout 3 would be better than Oblivion the moment I discovered that it features stuffed animals as lethal ammunition, but maybe that just means I’m easy to please. Still, do you think Fallout 3 will ultimately overshadow the fourth entry in the Elder Scrolls franchise, or will it disappoint fans and newcomers alike?


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king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 21:52
king3vbo
I C WAT U DID THUR
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:08
MechaMonkey
I like the way Bethesda has been handling criticism so far. Very professional. If this claim is true, then I'm gonna pee myself with joy all the time when playing this.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:08
SourGr8pes
Geez... Not like Oblivion is a BAD thing...
Leathersoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:11
Leathersoup
@SourGr8pes

I agree, I happen to think Oblivion is a great game, I can still throw it in and play for hours trying different things out.
Detry's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:13
Detry
I WANT IT NAO
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:18
Holyetheline
What the hell? A game can be better than Oblivion? I don't believe this.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:28
Clockwork
That's like me saying Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3 are the same thing cause they use the same engine. LAME!
moocow21's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:28
moocow21
I'm cautiously optimistic about Fallout 3, but only because I haven't played Fallout 1 or 2. The main reason I was so disappointed with Oblivion is that it just seemed so dumbed down compared to Morrowind - but this time I'll judge the game on its own merit.
braulio09's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:40
braulio09
hopefully inferring that the dialogue will be recorded by more than four voice actors.

suggesting* One infers from another's action/words.

Also, big surprise, Fallout 3 will be good.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:43
Projectexodus
Well, Oblivion was a good game, but it had way too many flaws. If Fallout 3 could fix those, then I'm happy! But I'll miss the colorful enviroments though...
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:44
killias2
Fallout 3 will be great, and it will utterly destroy my life.
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:48
Phantom Spaceman
No game can be better than Oblivion for one simple reason: Unicorn vs. Grizzly Bear
keefles's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 22:53
keefles
Hopefully its not as fucking boring as Oblivion.

Morrowind kicked ass.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 23:12
mistic
Morrowind sucked me in more then Oblivion as well keefles...

But I'm pretty sure Fallout 3 will make my time with Morrowind seem really short :p
Grimhound's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 23:26
Grimhound
For me personally, Oblivion required a certain level of tweaking to be an enjoyable experience.

Fallout 3 visually looks like someone muddied up all the colors of the rainbow until they got a dull uninspired grey stained into an old dishrag. Also, the game's singleplayer appeared morbidly similar to Command & Conquer: Renegade. For those who don't understand the experience referenced, the game sold for $3 at one point for a reason.
RJG's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2008 23:55
RJG
The worst part about Oblivion was the stupid levelling system. Since Fallout 3 doesn't have that, I assume it will be better.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 00:02
brainderailment
Oblivion was great, so if this is better, I'll be happy. But I don't know if I'm big on the fact that it's a techno-post-apocalyptic-manbearpig-shooter.
Krushr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 00:27
Krushr
From what I've been watching of Fallout 3, it looks fantastic and as much as I enjoyed Oblivion, this looks like I'll enjoy it more than Oblivion. The more traditional levelling system is going to help this a lot, but also the things like perks which made fallout 1 & 2 so great.
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 00:42
PrinceofCannedPeaches
Oblivion was a little bit wonky, but I never saw a problem with it. In fact, I think Oblivion was probably one of the top 3 games to come out of '05, and if a dev team that can make that is making promises like this, then I'm confident they can deliver.
Blackhat's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 01:16
Blackhat
"That's like me saying Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3 are the same thing cause they use the same engine. LAME!"

They do, apparently, share similar problems (scaling difficulty, melting face people, etc). So they can share annoying traits.
dephect's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 01:48
dephect
I love Oblivion, infact I am STILL playing it on the PS3.
Althesaurus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 02:54
Althesaurus
Oblivion was a fun game, don't get me wrong, but like a few others who've posted, after playing Morrowind, Oblivion just seems dull and dumbed down by comparison.

But hopefully this time around I'll be happily ignorant as far as Fallout 1 and 2 are concerned, and enjoy the game.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 03:13
Timmeh
You mean Oblivion: Nuclear edition isn't going to be full of bugs and shitty design that the community end up coming out with patches for while Bethesda make horse armour?

It isn't going to feature a massive world with dungeons that use the the same 4 sets of textures over and over?

I could go on but I lost interest when they stopped insiting it wasn't Oblivion with guns and started directly comparing the two games in every interview.

Interesting that they are repeating a lot of the same lies they told about Oblivion before that was released.

I know, I know, I should go register at No Mutants Allowed where all the other angry trolls live, but I don't want an isometric sequel - I just want a TRUE sequel.
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 06:14
AKK
I hated Oblivion. It bored the fuck out of me.

I may get Fallout 3 on the PC just in case it's another buggy fucking mess. That way, someone can fix the game at least.

Or maybe I won't. Hell, maybe I won't get the game at all.
MrHappySunshine's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 07:22
MrHappySunshine
Well no matter what this game is going to upset the fan boys because like Althesaurus mentioned earlier Bethesda has been trying to make their games more attainable by the the masses. So this game will be like Fallout but without all the complicated stuff or choices.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 08:34
Noah
I wish there were more open world games LIKE Oblivion. I hope Sean Bean is back for more voice acting goodness, too :)
The Bozz's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 09:29
The Bozz
I became addicted to Oblivion two summers ago. I played and played until I beat every single mission and mod I could find.

Thanks to all this Fallout 3/Oblivion controversy, I started playing again, and now I'm hooked.

Thanks a lot for fueling my addictions, Destructoid ¬¬
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 09:56
Eschatos
I loved Oblivion, but if they fix what was wrong with it this could be amazing.
Cartman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/06/2008 10:11
Cartman
Ive just got one thing to say. Um... TWO WORLDS!
Im not doubting this game, but the exact same thing was said about two worlds, and we all know how that turned out.
j4yx0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2008 13:05
j4yx0r
we’re also not oblivious to the fact...

See what he did there? Huh? Huh?

~j
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2008 22:42
The Amazing Shenazin
I'm hoping the combat will be better
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