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Haha yeah, it's all Bethesda's fault..even though the 360 and PC are getting their DLC no problem.
Oh PR....
Oh PR....
@Zerix
They make the game, and the PS3 architecture is different. Yes, it probably is 'their problem'.
They make the game, and the PS3 architecture is different. Yes, it probably is 'their problem'.
I dont understand what the issue is. If they managed to port it over to the ps3 in the first place, surely they already have the tech to do the same for the dlc. The games run on the same engine on what is functionally the same code. What's the problem?
This really blows. Props to Bethesda for admitting it's on them. It'd be super easy to play the blame game here, but they at least admit it's their issue.
(waiting for conspiracy of under the table money and dealings and general foolishness)
(waiting for conspiracy of under the table money and dealings and general foolishness)
@Courtney Roberts
Most likley something very boring and technical that a person without alot of knowledge about it wouldant get. I dont get the problem and even if i had it explained to me i wouldant.
Most likley something very boring and technical that a person without alot of knowledge about it wouldant get. I dont get the problem and even if i had it explained to me i wouldant.
If you have issues releasing content on a seperate console that ISNT barred by exclusivity deals, don't release the game on that console.
I agree, this will probably end up being a disc based solution since they apparently know how the get the game to function on a disc.
@Courtney
Probably the explanation of how this happens would involve at lot of talk about how game engines work, how PS3’s CELL SPE cores work, and how most game engines are tinkered with to run well on each system. All game codes are tweaked as they are ported…all of them…but in this case there was a big issues the cropped up late in the development.
I do not know but what I suspect is that Bethesda wanted the game code for PC, XB360, and PS3 to be as similar as possible so that as they were tweaking it they would not be tweaking three different versions of the code until the very end of the project. However, probably in the last few months as they were specifically tinkering with the PS3 code they discovered that a large amount of the code simply could not be made to work well on PS3. In simple terms, they put too much effort into the base code and did not account for if it would run well on PS3 until it was too late. To make the game run well on PS3 they would have to CHANGE the base code in significant ways that would have caused the PS3 port to come out…later.
So why can’t it be fixed? My guess, as I said above, is the entire code of the game would have to be significantly changed. That would be more work then would be profitable, so they are not doing it. They are stalling to lessen the impact, and wanting for the issue to blow over.
Probably the explanation of how this happens would involve at lot of talk about how game engines work, how PS3’s CELL SPE cores work, and how most game engines are tinkered with to run well on each system. All game codes are tweaked as they are ported…all of them…but in this case there was a big issues the cropped up late in the development.
I do not know but what I suspect is that Bethesda wanted the game code for PC, XB360, and PS3 to be as similar as possible so that as they were tweaking it they would not be tweaking three different versions of the code until the very end of the project. However, probably in the last few months as they were specifically tinkering with the PS3 code they discovered that a large amount of the code simply could not be made to work well on PS3. In simple terms, they put too much effort into the base code and did not account for if it would run well on PS3 until it was too late. To make the game run well on PS3 they would have to CHANGE the base code in significant ways that would have caused the PS3 port to come out…later.
So why can’t it be fixed? My guess, as I said above, is the entire code of the game would have to be significantly changed. That would be more work then would be profitable, so they are not doing it. They are stalling to lessen the impact, and wanting for the issue to blow over.
If Bethesda ever gets it working, I hope they do a post-mortem of the technical hurdles. I'd be really interested to find out what about the PS3 architecture is causing such difficulty.
@MonkeyKing1969
Exactly, just like they did with Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
I own both on the PS3 and they are a glitchy mess, I should have known better and skipped skyrim...
Exactly, just like they did with Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
I own both on the PS3 and they are a glitchy mess, I should have known better and skipped skyrim...
Eh. I traded in my PS3 copy of Skyrim a month back. I'll rebuy it for 360 when they have a GOTY edition and its been bargain-bin'd.
BTW For pc owners there is no real need to buy heartfire, turndra defender is a better mod. Or you could get Realtime Settler or build your own house as mods. With such choice there is really no need to get heartfire.
not that this is any conciliation to ps3 only users, but one of the benefits of being a multiplatform user like myself is, when crap like this crops up, I've got enough stuff to keep me busy.... I played the hell outta Skyrim on my PS3, both my wife and I put in at least 200 hours each.... I got my $60 worth twofold. Two years from now, I'll buy the GOTY for $8.00 on a Steam Sale, like I did this year with Morrowind and Oblivion.
Though, it really is ZERO excuse. I know enough people in the industry to know that a lot of what MonkeyKing said is pretty spot on, but still, with the length of development, quality of talent, money, AND brand IP behind it, there simply is NO REASON for such a state of mess on the PS3.... First Party or not, it's EMBARRASSING when you see what a company like Naughty Dog can do with the PS3 architecture, but Bethesda can't even get DLC out for one of the biggest games of the year.... Sad. Sad indeed.
Though, it really is ZERO excuse. I know enough people in the industry to know that a lot of what MonkeyKing said is pretty spot on, but still, with the length of development, quality of talent, money, AND brand IP behind it, there simply is NO REASON for such a state of mess on the PS3.... First Party or not, it's EMBARRASSING when you see what a company like Naughty Dog can do with the PS3 architecture, but Bethesda can't even get DLC out for one of the biggest games of the year.... Sad. Sad indeed.
I dumped my PS3 copy when I was gifted the PC version on Steam.
No excuse for releasing a multiplatform game that isn't 100% functional on all platforms.
No excuse for releasing a multiplatform game that isn't 100% functional on all platforms.
LMAO...Bethesda is such a joke.
Valve, Rockstar, Irrational, 2K, Guerrilla Games, Treyarch, Vigil, EA, THQ, Naughty Dog, Epic...they all know how to make their games work on the PS3.
So ridiculous. So glad I had the foresight not to bother with Skyrim or Dishonored. SO hilarious that they're offering Dishonored at a discount if you pre order on PSN. It's like...yeah, if I wanted to wipe my as with $54, I'd wipe my ass with $54.
Valve, Rockstar, Irrational, 2K, Guerrilla Games, Treyarch, Vigil, EA, THQ, Naughty Dog, Epic...they all know how to make their games work on the PS3.
So ridiculous. So glad I had the foresight not to bother with Skyrim or Dishonored. SO hilarious that they're offering Dishonored at a discount if you pre order on PSN. It's like...yeah, if I wanted to wipe my as with $54, I'd wipe my ass with $54.
@Zerix
It probably has to do with the Ps3 hardware. Historically the Ps3 has allways had problems with open world games.
That being said, no one forced bethesda to release the game on Ps3. So if you can't program for a console or if the console has a hardware that does not support your game then DON'T RELEASE THE GAME ON THAT CONSOLE.
Once you as adeveloper/Publisher decide out of your free will to release a game on ps3 knowing the hardware the console has then it's your responsibility to deliver a quality product
It probably has to do with the Ps3 hardware. Historically the Ps3 has allways had problems with open world games.
That being said, no one forced bethesda to release the game on Ps3. So if you can't program for a console or if the console has a hardware that does not support your game then DON'T RELEASE THE GAME ON THAT CONSOLE.
Once you as adeveloper/Publisher decide out of your free will to release a game on ps3 knowing the hardware the console has then it's your responsibility to deliver a quality product
Managed to get thirty bucks for my copy two weeks back. A whole year has managed to pass us by and yet it was still unplayable. Ten out of ten my ass. Move over ET, this is hands down the worst game ever and yet history will only remember DUHRDAHURR DRAGONS!!!
Personally I blame you, the monster.
Personally I blame you, the monster.
This late in the game and they haven't figured it out? Get your shit together, Bethesda. Look at Borderlands 2 on PS3, its huge and has a lot of functionality such as 4 player online support. Of course, they're totally DIFFERENT games but its still very impressive how they got that to work on PS3 considering how much shit is going on.
@ChrisCarter @solidjake58b Implying that Dishonored will be ok on the PS3 because Bethesda didn't develop it is not a valid agrument and PS3 users should stay away from that version. Case in point, Fallout New Vegas was developed by Obsidian and published by Bethesda. I don't know about you but that game is a hot mess on my PS3 (freezes and bugs like no other game I played on the PS3). So no, you guys pointing that out should not inspire confidence in PS3 users.
@bluekuts
Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Fallout: NV all use the gamebryo engine. The Creation engine (that Skyrim uses) is essentially a rebuilt gamebryo engine. Dishonored is an Unreal game, one of the more reliable and engines available which also has a proven track record on the three platforms the game is being released on.
Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Fallout: NV all use the gamebryo engine. The Creation engine (that Skyrim uses) is essentially a rebuilt gamebryo engine. Dishonored is an Unreal game, one of the more reliable and engines available which also has a proven track record on the three platforms the game is being released on.
@Snowraptor I didn't know that so thanks for the info on Dishonored's engine. Still, I cancelled my pre-order cause I'm not loving Bethesda at the moment. I have a maxed out Dunmer on the PS3 version of Skyrim that I absolutely love and I feel cheated by Bethesda. If they knew they had any issues with their PS3 version, Bethesda should have delayed the launch. Taking a year to fix the game with patches and then saying that DLCs may never come was the last straw for me. I'll wait for reviews from other PS3 gamers who play the hell out of Dishonored before I even think about putting anymore $$$ in Bethesda's pocket.....
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