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With Fallout 3 being subjected to special censorship in Australia so it may appease that country's ridiculous government, Bethesda's Pete Hines has discussed how frustrating it can be to tackle the various censorship laws around the world. With standards differing from country to country, it can be difficult to keep track of who allows what and what needs to be altered where, as the game's project manager explains:

"The frustrating thing for us is that the standards and rules can be so varied across territories, that we work with five or six ratings agencies and each one has different 'hot buttons'."

In one place nudity is a big deal but violence is fine, and in another place drugs are a problem but nudity is fine.

I guess that's the way of the world - not every country is the same. You're not aiming at one target, you're aiming at six different ones, worrying about how each one will feel about different things.

We just go through and make the game that we want to make. We have our eyes wide open, mindful of the things that could be flagged up and how we're going to resolve them if that becomes a problem."

Of course, it's a shame that games have to be censored at all, and I think that the very fact that some countries allow what others ban is proof that allowing them in the first place isn't really that big of a deal. So, America won't allow you to say f*ck on most of its networks -- it hardly makes that country safer to live in than England, where televised swearing is very common. 

Censorship, it is stupid. Thus ends the philosophy lesson.








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Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 11:04
Phantom Spaceman
may contain some inappropriate scenes of orgasmic ponies
Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 11:13
Jamie McGinn
You know who else was fond of censorship? Nazis.

Now I'm not saying if you like censorship, you're a Nazi.

I am implying it though.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 11:18
MaxVest
Different ratings standards don't seem as bad to me as outright censorship. Who's stopping the consumers from proving there is a market for a game that carries the highest rating? Is something considered censored if Wal-mart won't carry it?

I'm not crazy about the murky standards these ratings board use, but there's a difference between this and censorship.
ZServ's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 11:22
ZServ
damn. NAZIIIII!
T9X's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 11:37
T9X
@MaxVest
True,this isnt straight out censorship (yet),but it is still a shame that Bethesda must cater to these overly harsh and ridiculous rating schemes.Comprimising the integrity of the original version they had planned.And beyond that,its not like anything in it is THAT bad,not like you can moleste children or that dog of yours.The game is targeted for adult audiences,and as adults we should all be able to make our own choices about whats offensive,and not leave it up to a ratings board to decide whats right for us.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 11:47
MaxVest
@T9X: I'll stick with the US, because that's what I know. Publishers can publish a game pretty much as they like (with a few exceptions such as child porn) and get an AO rating. AO ratings won't be carried in most brick and mortar stores, but some will, and ordering online from the publisher or other outlets will work too.

At that point, the publisher can decide which is more important: the artistic vision of the original project, or making money. Since the final call rests with the publishers, why don't we complain about how their greed deprives us of the ability to decide what is right for us?
T9X's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 12:06
T9X
You make a good point.But if thier game were to be branded AO,By losing the ability to sell from most brick stores,they would cut thier profit drastically.Sure,there are enough people who want Fallout 3 that would hunt it down online,but its doubtful enough people woul,enough to make thier money back from production costs even.Not only that,both Microsoft and Sony would never let the game hit thier systems with an AO rating,exiling the game even further.
Infininja's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 12:26
Infininja
How is not allowing the game in their country unless they cut certain pieces of content not censorship?
TUoAnonymous's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 12:30
TUoAnonymous
The censorship thing is getting out of control in Australia, they lose out on a ridiculous amount of quality games through a full-blown nanny culture.
Lolthien's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 12:32
Lolthien
So.. how exactly is this different than the film industry? do they not have different standards in other countries?

My understanding is that the rules just say what you can provide to anyone under a certain age. If they allow porno and slasher flicks in these countries, I wouldn't call it censorship... but if you want a 12 year old to play your game, you're going to have to play by the rules.

Is this somehow unfair in a way I'm missing?
lvl54spacemonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 12:45
lvl54spacemonkey
Congratulations Bethesda fr being the first Americans in history to realise that the rest of the world is different from each other. they know know there's more to the world than Limeys, them asians with der Kung Fu and them A-rabs dat always be blowin' stuff up.
Brahms's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 13:15
Brahms
At least it wasn't something as inane as censorship of a title due to sexual themes.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 13:51
MechaMonkey
Censorship confirmed for Brawl.
balth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 15:29
balth
FUCK!
Release82's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 16:24
Release82
I want tits drugs and alcohol in my video games. Moving to Amsterdam.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2008 16:44
Excel-2011
Were it me, I wouldn't bother releasing any of my works in places whose censorship standards are too different from that of my country. I would instead actively encourage the afflicted to import.
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